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2 Samuel 15:12-13

Context
15:12 While he was offering sacrifices, Absalom sent for Ahithophel the Gilonite, David’s adviser, 1  to come from his city, Giloh. 2  The conspiracy was gaining momentum, and the people were starting to side with Absalom.

David Flees from Jerusalem

15:13 Then a messenger came to David and reported, “The men of Israel are loyal to Absalom!” 3 

Hosea 8:4

Context
The Political and Cultic Sin of Israel

8:4 They enthroned kings without my consent! 4 

They appointed princes without my approval! 5 

They made idols out of their silver and gold,

but they will be destroyed! 6 

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[15:12]  1 tn Traditionally, “counselor,” but this term is more often associated with psychological counseling today, so “adviser” was used in the translation instead.

[15:12]  2 tn Heb “Absalom sent for Ahithophel the Gilonite, the adviser of David, from his city, from Giloh, while he was sacrificing.” It is not entirely clear who (Absalom or Ahithophel) was offering the sacrifices.

[15:13]  3 tn Heb “the heart of the men of Israel is with Absalom.”

[8:4]  4 tn Heb “but without me”; NCV “without asking my permission”; CEV “without consulting me.”

[8:4]  5 tn Heb “but I did not know”; NRSV “but without my knowledge.”

[8:4]  6 tn Heb “in order to be cut off.” The text gives the impression that they made the idols for this purpose, but the language is ironic and sarcastic, bringing out the futility of their efforts. One could paraphrase, “they made idols…but only so that they might be destroyed.” Though they had other plans for the idols, God’s judgment would bring their intentions to naught.



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