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Job 12:12-13

Context

12:12 Is not wisdom found among the aged? 1 

Does not long life bring understanding?

12:13 “With God 2  are wisdom and power;

counsel and understanding are his. 3 

Job 15:8

Context

15:8 Do you listen in on God’s secret council? 4 

Do you limit 5  wisdom to yourself?

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[12:12]  1 tn The statement in the Hebrew Bible simply has “among the aged – wisdom.” Since this seems to be more the idea of the friends than of Job, scholars have variously tried to rearrange it. Some have proposed that Job is citing his friends: “With the old men, you say, is wisdom” (Budde, Gray, Hitzig). Others have simply made it a question (Weiser). But others take לֹא (lo’) from the previous verse and make it the negative here, to say, “wisdom is not….” But Job will draw on the wisdom of the aged, only with discernment, for ultimately all wisdom is with God.

[12:13]  2 tn Heb “him”; the referent (God) has been specified in the translation for clarity.

[12:13]  3 sn A. B. Davidson (Job, 91) says, “These attributes of God’s [sic] confound and bring to nought everything bearing the same name among men.”

[15:8]  3 tn The meaning of סוֹד (sod) is “confidence.” In the context the implication is “secret counsel” of the Lord God (see Jer 23:18). It is a question of confidence on the part of God, that only wisdom can know (see Prov 8:30,31). Job seemed to them to claim to have access to the mind of God.

[15:8]  4 tn In v. 4 the word meant “limit”; here it has a slightly different sense, namely, “to reserve for oneself.”



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