
Text -- 2 Samuel 23:8 (NET)




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Wesley: 2Sa 23:8 - -- But this catalogue, though placed here, was taken long before, as is manifest from hence, that Asahel and Uriah are named here. And whereas there are ...
But this catalogue, though placed here, was taken long before, as is manifest from hence, that Asahel and Uriah are named here. And whereas there are some difference between this list, and that, 1Ch. 11:10-47, most of them are easily reconciled by these two considerations; that nothing is more common than for one person to have divers names. That as some of the worthies died, and others came in their stead; this must needs cause some alteration in the latter catalogue, 1Ch. 11:10-47, from this which was the former. Learn hence, how much religion tends to inspire men with true courage. David both by his writings and example greatly promoted piety among the grandees of the kingdom. And when they became famous for piety, they became famous for bravery.

Wesley: 2Sa 23:8 - -- In one battle, which though it be strange, yet cannot seem incredible, supposing him to be a person of extraordinary strength and activity, and his en...
In one battle, which though it be strange, yet cannot seem incredible, supposing him to be a person of extraordinary strength and activity, and his enemies to be discouraged, and fleeing away.
JFB -> 2Sa 23:8
JFB: 2Sa 23:8 - -- This verse should be translated thus: He who sits in the seat of the Tachmonite (that is, of Jashobeam the Hachmonite), who was chief among the captai...
This verse should be translated thus: He who sits in the seat of the Tachmonite (that is, of Jashobeam the Hachmonite), who was chief among the captains, the same is Adino the Eznite; he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time. The text is corrupt in this passage; the number eight hundred should be three hundred [DAVIDSON, Hermeneutics]. Under Joab he was chief or president of the council of war. The first or highest order was composed of him and his two colleagues, Eleazar and Shammah. Eleazar seems to have been left to fight the Philistines alone; and on his achieving the victory, they returned to the spoil. In like manner Shammah was left to stand alone in his glory, when the Lord, by him, wrought a great victory. It is not very easy to determine whether the exploits that are afterwards described were performed by the first or the second three.
Clarke: 2Sa 23:8 - -- These be the names of the mighty men - This chapter should be collated with the parallel place, 1 Chronicles 11:11-47; and see Kennicott’ s Fir...
These be the names of the mighty men - This chapter should be collated with the parallel place, 1 Chronicles 11:11-47; and see Kennicott’ s First Dissertation on the printed Hebrew text, pages 64-471

Clarke: 2Sa 23:8 - -- The Tachmonite that sat in the seat - Literally and properly, Jashobeam the Hachmonite. See 1Ch 11:11
The Tachmonite that sat in the seat - Literally and properly, Jashobeam the Hachmonite. See 1Ch 11:11

Clarke: 2Sa 23:8 - -- The same was Adino the Eznite - This is a corruption for he lift up his spear. See 1Ch 11:11
The same was Adino the Eznite - This is a corruption for he lift up his spear. See 1Ch 11:11

Clarke: 2Sa 23:8 - -- Eight hundred, whom he slew at one time - Three hundred is the reading in Chronicles, and seems to be the true one. The word חלל chalal , which ...
Eight hundred, whom he slew at one time - Three hundred is the reading in Chronicles, and seems to be the true one. The word
1. The proper name of the hero Jashobeam is turned into two common words, rendered, that sat in the seat
2. The words, he lift up his spear,
3. The number eight hundred was probably at first three hundred, as in 1Ch 11:11.
See Kennicott, ubi supr.
Defender: 2Sa 23:8 - -- This phrase is actually a proper name, "Josheb-basshebeth." See 1 Chronicles 11:11-47 for the parallel listing of David's mighty men.
This phrase is actually a proper name, "Josheb-basshebeth." See 1 Chronicles 11:11-47 for the parallel listing of David's mighty men.

Defender: 2Sa 23:8 - -- 1Ch 11:11 says that this man mentioned in the list of the mighty men (called Jashobeam in 1 Chronicles) slew three hundred men instead of eight hundre...
1Ch 11:11 says that this man mentioned in the list of the mighty men (called Jashobeam in 1 Chronicles) slew three hundred men instead of eight hundred. The correct number is believed to be eight hundred, thus warranting Jashobeam's position as "chief among the captains." Abishai, in the second trio of mighty men, had slain three hundred. The number in 1Ch 11:11 probably represents a copyist's error, but it is also possible that he slew eight hundred once and three hundred on another occasion."
TSK -> 2Sa 23:8
TSK: 2Sa 23:8 - -- am 2949-2989, bc 1055-1015, An, Ex, Is, 436-476, The Tachmonite. or, Josheb-bassebet, the Tachmonite, head of the three. 1Ch 11:11, 1Ch 11:12, 1Ch 27...
am 2949-2989, bc 1055-1015, An, Ex, Is, 436-476, The Tachmonite. or, Josheb-bassebet, the Tachmonite, head of the three. 1Ch 11:11, 1Ch 11:12, 1Ch 27:2, 1Ch 27:32; It is highly probable that in this version instead of
whom he slew : Heb. slain

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Barnes -> 2Sa 23:8
Barnes: 2Sa 23:8 - -- The duplicate of this passage is in 1 Chr. 11, where it is in immediate connection with David’ s accession to the throne of Israel, and where t...
The duplicate of this passage is in 1 Chr. 11, where it is in immediate connection with David’ s accession to the throne of Israel, and where the mighty men are named as those by whose aid David was made king. The document belongs to the early part of David’ s reign. The text of 2Sa 23:8-9 is perhaps to be corrected by comparison with 1Ch 11:11-12.
Chief among the captains - There is great doubt about the exact meaning of this phrase.
(1) the title is given to two other persons, namely, to Abishai in 2Sa 23:18; 1Ch 11:20, and to Amasa in 1Ch 12:18.
(2) the word translated "captain,"is of uncertain meaning, and the orthography repeatedly fluctuates throughout this and the duplicate passage in 1 Chr. 11, between "Shalish"a captain, and "Sheloshah"three.
(3) if, however, the text of Chronicles be taken as the guide, then the sense of "captain"will not come into play, but the word will be a numeral throughout, either "three"or "thirty,"and will describe David’ s band of thirty mighty men, with a certain triad or triads of heroes who were yet more illustrious than the thirty.
In the verse before us, therefore, for "chief among the captains,"we should render, "chief of the thirty."
Eight hundred - The parallel passage in 1 Chronicles has "three hundred,"as in 2Sa 23:18. Such variations in numerals are very frequent. Compare the numbers in Ezra 2 and Neh. 7.
Poole -> 2Sa 23:8
Poole: 2Sa 23:8 - -- Of the mighty men whom David had i. e. of his chief and most valiant commanders. And as it was noted upon 2Sa 21:1 , that the things related in that ...
Of the mighty men whom David had i. e. of his chief and most valiant commanders. And as it was noted upon 2Sa 21:1 , that the things related in that chapter were done before Absalom’ s and Sheba’ s rebellion, though they be mentioned after them; so that opinion is confirmed by this catalogue, which, though placed here, was taken long before, as is manifest from hence, that Asahel and Uriah are named here. And whereas there are some differences between this list and that 1Ch 11 , most of them are easily reconciled by these two considerations:
1. That nothing is more common than for one person to have divers names.
2. That as some of the worthies died, and others came in their steads; so this must needs cause some alteration in the latter catalogue, 1Ch 11 , from this, which was the former.
The Tachmonite , or, Hachmonite , called Jashobeam , 1Ch 11:11 , from his place; or, as here, Josheb-bassebet , i. e. as we render it,
that sat in the seat , i.e. was, under Joab, chief or president of the council of war, or lieutenant ( locum tenens ).
The same was Adino : this was his proper name.
The Eznite ; so called, either from his family, or from the place of his birth or education.
He lift up his spear which words are fitly supplied out of 1Ch 11:11 , where they are expressed. Or thus, he was above eight hundred , i.e. he conquered them. So there is only an ellipsis of the verb substantive, which is most frequent.
At one time in one battle, which though it be strange, yet cannot seem incredible, supposing him to be a person of extraordinary strength and activity, and his enemies to be weak, or discouraged, and fleeing away; and especially, God’ s singular blessing and assistance; all which may very reasonably be supposed.
Object. But this man is said to have slain only three hundred in 1Ch 11:11 .
Answ 1. Possibly he slew eight hundred at one time, and three hundred at another; whereof the former is related here, as being most considerable; and the latter in the Book of Chronicles, which supplies many passages omitted in the former writings.
2. He slew three hundred with his own hands; and the other five hundred, though killed by his men, are said to be slain by him, because he was the chief cause of all their deaths; for he, by his undaunted courage, killing three hundred, put the rest to flight, who were easily slain by his soldiers in the pursuit.
3. Some of the Hebrew writers affirm that these were two distinct persons, being called by differing names; the one the father, and the other the son, who succeeded his father, as in strength and valour, so also in his place of honour and trust.
Haydock -> 2Sa 23:8
Haydock: 2Sa 23:8 - -- Jesbaham, the son of Hachamoni. For this was the name of this hero, as appears from 1 Chronicles xi. 11. (Challoner) ---
But then sitting, &c., ...
Jesbaham, the son of Hachamoni. For this was the name of this hero, as appears from 1 Chronicles xi. 11. (Challoner) ---
But then sitting, &c., should not be retained. (Haydock) ---
Most tender, &c. He appeared like one tender and weak, but was indeed most valiant and strong. It seems the Latin has here given the interpretation of the Hebrew name of the hero, to whom Jesbaham was like, instead of the name itself, which was Adino the Eznite, one much renowned of old for his valour. (Challoner) ---
The Vulgate has, contrary to custom, translated many of the proper names. (Calmet) ---
The French version would suppose that Adino, the Heznite, was the hero's name; and queen Elizabeth's version (1599) is, "He that sat in the seat of wisdom, being chief of the princes, was Adino, the Eznite." (Haydock) ---
But no such person is mentioned any where else, in the Bible; and these words have been corrupted, like many others in this chapter, as may be gathered from collating it with Chronicles, &c. Kennicott was encouraged to continue, if not to begin his labours, to shew the imperfection of the printed Hebrew, by comparing these passages, though he had formerly imagined that the text had been preserved in its original purity. See Dis. ii. p. 496. He shews the inaccuracy of queen Elizabeth's version, and observes that some have very abruptly inferred, that David was the first of his own mighty men, from the Vulgate, which is literally, "These are the names of the valiant men of David. Sitting in the chair, the most wise prince among the three. The same is like the most tender," &c. No name is here specified, (Haydock) though the catalogue be given expressly to honour their names. ---
In the chair. Hebrew Bashebeth, "seems to be carelessly transcribed in here from the line above," as Oregim was taken from the subsequent line, chap. xxi. 19. ---
Wisest. Hebrew, "the Hachmonite." ---
Three; it is in Hebrew, "the third;" and in Chronicles thirty, improperly. Protestants, "the Tachmonite, that sat in the seat, chief among the captains, (the same was Adino, the Eznite) against 800 whom he slew at one time," is therefore inaccurate. ---
Tachmonite has the th corrupted, from e, which stands for ben, " the son of Hachmoni;" though, as the father of Jashobeam was Zadiel, it would be better rendered the Hachmonite, being his family or local name. It is not always possible to know which is meant. The ellipsis in the Protestant version, and the confounding of Jashobeam with Adino, cannot be excused. Adinu seems to be (Haydock) corrupted from auror, (as ver. 18, and 1 Paralipomenon) "lifted up;" eatsnu, a word retained in the Arabic language, for "his spear;" (Vulgate) wood. Le Clerc reads eatsni, which he deems inexplicable, no less than Adinu: but the best copies have eatsnu; so that we need not reject it. ---
Killed, or "wounded," is the general interpretation of elol; but it signifies also, "a soldier." ---
Eight is three, in Paralipomenon. Similar mistakes have probably arisen from the use of numeral letters. See 4 Kings viii. 26. We read, that Abisai lifted up his spear against 300. This was, perhaps, an usual number for a regiment of three companies, 1 Kings xxix. 2. Both Jesbahan and Abisai ventured to contend, singly, with so superior a force; but the latter displayed rather less valour, so that he did not attain unto the glory of the former; which he ought to have done, if both had killed the same number. Kennicott would therefore translate, "These are the names of the mighty men, whom David had: Jashobeam, the Hachmonite, chief of the Three: He lifted up his spear against 300 soldiers, at one time." He observes that thirty-seven heroes are particularly specified: (ver. 39) Joab, (the captain-general) Jashobeam, Eleazar, Shammah, the first ternary) Abishai, Benaiah, and Asael; (the second ternary) after whom follow thirty, whose exploits are not recorded. If any should still maintain that this verse is correct, we must say (Haydock) that Adino is a different person from Jesbaham, (as the Vulgate reads it, 1 Paralipomenon) and that he killed 800; whereas the latter was only like him, in as much as he slew 300. (Menochius) ---
The marvellous is greatly diminished by substituting 300 instead of 800, and by allowing that the heroes contended with, though they might not kill, the whole company of 300 soldiers. See Kennicott. It seems most rational to admit some corrections, to which we are led by the Septuagint, "Jesbaath, (Vatican, Jesbosthe, the Chanaanite) the son of Thakemoni. He was the chief of the three. Adino, the Asonean, is useless, (Calmet) as a proper name: when corrected, it is rendered, (Haydock) "he drew," &c. Whence have they taken this, as it is not in Hebrew at present, unless they read, (Calmet) auror, elevavit, "he lifted up his spear." (Kennicott) ---
The number of 300 slain by one man, in one engagement, is also more credible than 800. (Calmet) ---
Josephus increases the number to 900; but then he supposes they were slain in various battles. "The king had thirty-eight, chiefly renowned for their achievements....The first, Issaimos, the son of Achamani, who rushing, not once, but frequently, into the midst of the enemy, did not cease from slaughtering till he had killed 900." We may observe that he increases the number of the mighty men. (Haydock) ---
Delany reduces it to thirty-six, though he afterwards reckons thirty-seven, erroneously making thirty-one commanders of the third order, when he ought to have allowed the odd one to be the captain-general, and placed him before the two ternaries. Lightfoot also reckons thirty-six, and mentions them in this remarkably false order: 1, Joab; 2, Adino, of Ezni, called Jashobeam, by office; 3, Eleazar. And in the second rank: 1, Abishai; 2, Shammah; 3, Benaiah. (Kennicott) ---
All these officers were styled, Shalischim. See Exodus xiv. 7. (Calmet) ---
A body of "Thirty" was, perhaps, originally formed by David; and, though he afterwards admitted a greater number, they all went by the first name. (Salien)
Gill -> 2Sa 23:8
Gill: 2Sa 23:8 - -- These be the names of the mighty men whom David had,.... Besides Joab his general, who is not mentioned; for these were all military men under him, w...
These be the names of the mighty men whom David had,.... Besides Joab his general, who is not mentioned; for these were all military men under him, which are distinguished into three classes; the first and highest consisted of three only, who were general officers; and the second also of three, who perhaps were colonels of regiments; and the third of thirty, who were captains of thousands and hundreds:
the Tachmonite that sat in the seat, the chief among the captains: not in the chief seat in the sanhedrim, and was the head of that, and so had the name of Tachmonite, from his wisdom, as the Jewish writers say; but in the council of war, where he presided under the general, or in his absence, and was, perhaps, lieutenant general, and so over all the captains; and therefore was neither David nor Joab, to whom some of the Rabbins apply these words, as observed by Kimchi; or rather he was the chief of the three to whom he belonged; his name, in 1Ch 11:11, is Jashobeam, an Hachmonite, or the son of an Hachmonite, the same as in 1Ch 27:2; and here it may be as well read Josheb-bashebeth the Tachmonite, the same name, with a little variation; which seem to be names given him, taken from his character and office; for his proper name was as follows:
the same was Adino the Eznite: so called either from the family he was of, or from the place of his birth; though a learned man thinks it should be read as in the following supplement q:
he lifted up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time; which, though a very extraordinary exploit, yet not more strange, or so strange as that of Shamgar's slaying six hundred men with an ox goad, Jdg 3:31, or as that of Samson's killing a thousand men with the jawbone of an ass, Jdg 15:15, in 1Ch 11:11, the number is only three hundred, which some attempt to reconcile by observing, that not the same person is meant in both places; here he is called Joshebbashebeth, there Jashobeam; here the Tachmonite, there the son of an Hachmonite; nor is he there called Adino the Eznite; but yet it seems plain that in both places the chief of the three worthies of David is meant, and so the same man: others observe, that he engaged with eight hundred, and slew three hundred of them, when the rest fled, and were pursued and killed by his men; and he routing them, and being the occasion of their being slain, the slaying of them all is ascribed to him; or he first slew three hundred, and five hundred more coming upon him, he slew them also: but what Kimchi offers seems to be best, that there were two battles, in which this officer was engaged; at one of them he slew eight hundred, and at the other three hundred; for so what is omitted in the books of Samuel, and of the Kings, is frequently supplied in the books of Chronicles, as what one evangelist in the New Testament omits, another records. The above learned writer r conjectures, that

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NET Notes: 2Sa 23:8 The translation follows some LXX mss (see 1 Chr 11:11 as well) in reading הוּא עוֹרֵר ...
Geneva Bible -> 2Sa 23:8
Geneva Bible: 2Sa 23:8 These [be] the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the ( e ) seat, chief among the captains; the same [was] Adino the E...

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TSK Synopsis -> 2Sa 23:1-39
TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 23:1-39 - --1 David, in his last words, professes his faith in God's promises to be beyond sense or experience.6 The different state of the wicked.8 A catalogue o...
MHCC -> 2Sa 23:8-39
MHCC: 2Sa 23:8-39 - --David once earnestly longed for the water at the well of Bethlehem. It seems to be an instance of weakness. He was thirsty; with the water of that wel...
Matthew Henry -> 2Sa 23:8-39
Matthew Henry: 2Sa 23:8-39 - -- I. The catalogue which the historian has here left upon record of the great soldiers that were in David's time is intended, 1. For the honour of Dav...
Keil-Delitzsch -> 2Sa 23:8-39
Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 23:8-39 - --
The following list of David's heroes we also find in 1 Chron 11:10-47, and expanded at the end by sixteen names (1Ch 11:41-47), and attached in 1Ch ...
Constable: 2Sa 21:1--24:25 - --VII. SUMMARY ILLUSTRATIONS chs. 21--24
The last major section of the Book of Samuel (2 Sam. 21-24) consists of s...

Constable: 2Sa 23:8-39 - --E. Thirty-seven Mighty Men 23:8-39
One might conclude from 1 Samuel 22:2 that David's army, made up as i...
