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Text -- 1 Samuel 8:1-22 (NET)

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Israel Seeks a King
8:1 In his old age Samuel appointed his sons as judges over Israel. 8:2 The name of his firstborn son was Joel, and the name of his second son was Abijah. They were judges in Beer Sheba. 8:3 But his sons did not follow his ways. Instead, they made money dishonestly, accepted bribes, and perverted justice. 8:4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and approached Samuel at Ramah. 8:5 They said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons don’t follow your ways. So now appoint over us a king to lead us, just like all the other nations have.” 8:6 But this request displeased Samuel, for they said, “Give us a king to lead us.” So Samuel prayed to the Lord. 8:7 The Lord said to Samuel, “Do everything the people request of you. For it is not you that they have rejected, but it is me that they have rejected as their king. 8:8 Just as they have done from the day that I brought them up from Egypt until this very day, they have rejected me and have served other gods. This is what they are also doing to you. 8:9 So now do as they say. But seriously warn them and make them aware of the policies of the king who will rule over them.” 8:10 So Samuel spoke all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 8:11 He said, “Here are the policies of the king who will rule over you: He will conscript your sons and put them in his chariot forces and in his cavalry; they will run in front of his chariot. 8:12 He will appoint for himself leaders of thousands and leaders of fifties, as well as those who plow his ground, reap his harvest, and make his weapons of war and his chariot equipment. 8:13 He will take your daughters to be ointment makers, cooks, and bakers. 8:14 He will take your best fields and vineyards and give them to his own servants. 8:15 He will demand a tenth of your seed and of the produce of your vineyards and give it to his administrators and his servants. 8:16 He will take your male and female servants, as well as your best cattle and your donkeys, and assign them for his own use. 8:17 He will demand a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will be his servants. 8:18 In that day you will cry out because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the Lord won’t answer you in that day.” 8:19 But the people refused to heed Samuel’s warning. Instead they said, “No! There will be a king over us! 8:20 We will be like all the other nations. Our king will judge us and lead us and fight our battles.” 8:21 So Samuel listened to everything the people said and then reported it to the Lord. 8:22 The Lord said to Samuel, “Do as they say and install a king over them.” Then Samuel said to the men of Israel, “Each of you go back to his own city.”
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Abijah the son and successor of King Rehoboam
 · Beer-Sheba a famous well, its town and district in southern Judah
 · Beer-sheba a famous well, its town and district in southern Judah
 · Egypt descendants of Mizraim
 · Israel a citizen of Israel.,a member of the nation of Israel
 · Joel a son of Pethuel and a prophet to Judah,son of Samuel of Kohath son of Levi,head of a large influential family of Simeon in King Hezekiah's time,a powerful leader among the descendants of Reuben,a chief of the tribe of Gad,son of Azariah (Uzziah) of Kohath; one of the Levites that King Hezekiah assigned to supervise the cleansing of the temple,son of Izrahiah of Issachar,brother of Nathan; one of David's military elite,a Levitical chief of the descendants of Ladan under King David,son of Ladan and temple treasurer under King David,son of Pedaiah; David's chief officer over the tribe of Manasseh,a man who put away his heathen wife; an Israelite descended from Nebo,a man who lived in Jerusalem in Nehemiah's time; son of Zichri,son of Pethuel; a prophet who wrote the book of Joel
 · Ramah a town 8 km north of Jerusalem,a town of Simeon,a town of Benjamin 9 km north of Jerusalem and 8 km south of Bethel (OS),a town on the border of Asher (OS),a town of Ephraim 10 km SE of Aphek, and 25 km east of Joppa,a town in Gilead 50-60 km east of Beth-Shan
 · Samuel son of Ammihud; Moses' land distribution deputy for Simeon,son of Tola son of Issachar


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Wesley: 1Sa 8:1 - -- And so unfit for his former travels and labours. He is not supposed to have been now above sixty years of age. But he had spent his strength and spiri...

And so unfit for his former travels and labours. He is not supposed to have been now above sixty years of age. But he had spent his strength and spirits in the fatigue of public business: and now if he thinks to shake himself as at other times, he finds he is mistaken: age has cut his hair. They that are in the prime of their years, ought to be busy in doing the work of life: for as they go into years, they will find themselves less disposed to it, and less capable of it.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:1 - -- Not supreme judges, for such there was to be but one, and that of God's chusing; and Samuel still kept that office in his own hands, 1Sa 7:15, but his...

Not supreme judges, for such there was to be but one, and that of God's chusing; and Samuel still kept that office in his own hands, 1Sa 7:15, but his deputies, to go about and determine matters, but with reservation of a right of appeals to himself. He had doubtless instructed them in a singular manner, and fitted them for the highest employments; and he hoped that the example he had sent them, and the authority he still had over them, would oblige them to diligence and faithfulness in their trust.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:2 - -- sheba - In the southern border of the land of Canaan, which were very remote from his house at Ramah; where, and in the neighbouring places Samuel him...

sheba - In the southern border of the land of Canaan, which were very remote from his house at Ramah; where, and in the neighbouring places Samuel himself still executing the office of judge.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:3 - -- Opportunity and temptation discovered that corruption in them which 'till now was hid from their father. It has often been the grief of holy men, that...

Opportunity and temptation discovered that corruption in them which 'till now was hid from their father. It has often been the grief of holy men, that their children did not tread in their steps. So far from it, that the sons of eminently good men, have been often eminently wicked.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:5 - -- Their desires exceed their reasons, which extended no farther than to the removal of Samuel's sons from their places, and the procuring some other jus...

Their desires exceed their reasons, which extended no farther than to the removal of Samuel's sons from their places, and the procuring some other just: and prudent assistance to Samuel's age. Nor was the grant of their desire a remedy for their disease, but rather an aggravation of it. For the sons of their king were likely to he as corrupt as Samuel's sons and, if they were, would not be so easily removed.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:5 - -- That is, as most of the nations about us have. But there was not the like reason; because God had separated them from all other nations, and cautioned...

That is, as most of the nations about us have. But there was not the like reason; because God had separated them from all other nations, and cautioned them against the imitation of their examples, and had taken them into his own immediate care and government; which privilege other nations had not.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:6 - -- Because God was hereby dishonoured by that distrust of him, and that ambition, and itch after changes, which were the manifest causes of this desire; ...

Because God was hereby dishonoured by that distrust of him, and that ambition, and itch after changes, which were the manifest causes of this desire; and because of that great misery, which he foresaw the people would hereby bring upon themselves.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:6 - -- For the pardon of their sin, and direction and help from God in this great affair.

For the pardon of their sin, and direction and help from God in this great affair.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:7 - -- God grants their desire in anger, and for their punishment.

God grants their desire in anger, and for their punishment.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:7 - -- This injury and contumely, reflects chiefly upon me and my government.

This injury and contumely, reflects chiefly upon me and my government.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:7 - -- By my immediate government, which was the great honour, safety, and happiness of this people, if they had had hearts to prize it.

By my immediate government, which was the great honour, safety, and happiness of this people, if they had had hearts to prize it.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:8 - -- Thou farest no worse than myself. This he speaks for Samuel's comfort and vindication.

Thou farest no worse than myself. This he speaks for Samuel's comfort and vindication.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:9 - -- That, if it be possible, thou mayst yet prevent their sin and misery.

That, if it be possible, thou mayst yet prevent their sin and misery.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:9 - -- That is, of the kings which they desire like the kings of other nations.

That is, of the kings which they desire like the kings of other nations.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:11 - -- Injuriously and by violence.

Injuriously and by violence.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:12 - -- Heb. To, or for himself; for his own fancy, or glory, and not only when the necessities of the kingdom require it. And though this might seem to he no...

Heb. To, or for himself; for his own fancy, or glory, and not only when the necessities of the kingdom require it. And though this might seem to he no incumbrance, but an honour to the persons so advanced, yet even in them that honour was accompanied with great dangers, and pernicious snares of many kinds, which those faint shadows of glory could not recompense; and as to the public, their pomp and power proved very burdensome to the people, whose lands and fruits were taken from them, and bestowed upon these, for the support of their state.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:12 - -- At his own pleasure, when possibly their own fields required all their time and pains. He will press them for all sorts of his work, and that upon his...

At his own pleasure, when possibly their own fields required all their time and pains. He will press them for all sorts of his work, and that upon his own terms.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:13 - -- Which would be more grievous to their parents, and more dangerous to themselves, because of the tenderness of that sex, and their liableness to many i...

Which would be more grievous to their parents, and more dangerous to themselves, because of the tenderness of that sex, and their liableness to many injuries.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:14 - -- By fraud or force, as Ahab did from Naboth.

By fraud or force, as Ahab did from Naboth.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:14 - -- He will not only take the fruits of your lands for his own use, but will take away your possessions to give to his servants.

He will not only take the fruits of your lands for his own use, but will take away your possessions to give to his servants.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:15 - -- Besides the several tenths which God hath reserved for his service, he will, when he pleaseth, impose another tenth upon you.

Besides the several tenths which God hath reserved for his service, he will, when he pleaseth, impose another tenth upon you.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:15 - -- Heb. To his eunuchs, which may imply a farther injury, that he should against the command of God, make some of his people eunuchs; and take those into...

Heb. To his eunuchs, which may imply a farther injury, that he should against the command of God, make some of his people eunuchs; and take those into his court and favour, which God would have cast out of the congregation.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:16 - -- By constraint, and without sufficient recompense.

By constraint, and without sufficient recompense.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:17 - -- That is, he will use you like slaves, and deprive you of that liberty which now you enjoy.

That is, he will use you like slaves, and deprive you of that liberty which now you enjoy.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:18 - -- Ye shall bitterly mourn for the sad effects of this inordinate desire of a king.

Ye shall bitterly mourn for the sad effects of this inordinate desire of a king.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:18 - -- Because you will not hear, nor obey his counsel in this day.

Because you will not hear, nor obey his counsel in this day.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:20 - -- What stupidity! It was their happiness that they were unlike all other nations, Num 23:9; Deu 33:28, as in other glorious privileges, so especially in...

What stupidity! It was their happiness that they were unlike all other nations, Num 23:9; Deu 33:28, as in other glorious privileges, so especially in this, that the Lord was their immediate king and lawgiver. But they will have a king to go out before them, and to fight their battles. Could they desire a battle better fought for them than the last was, by Samuel's prayers and God's thunders? Were they fond to try the chance of war, at the same uncertainty that others did? And what was the issue? Their first king was slain in battle: and so was Joshua, one of the last and best.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:21 - -- He repeated them privately between God and himself; for his own vindication and comfort: and as a foundation for his prayers to God, for direction and...

He repeated them privately between God and himself; for his own vindication and comfort: and as a foundation for his prayers to God, for direction and assistance.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:22 - -- Betake yourselves to your several occasions, till you hear more from me in this matter.

Betake yourselves to your several occasions, till you hear more from me in this matter.

JFB: 1Sa 8:1-5 - -- He was now about fifty-four years of age, having discharged the office of sole judge for twelve years. Unable, from growing infirmities, to prosecute ...

He was now about fifty-four years of age, having discharged the office of sole judge for twelve years. Unable, from growing infirmities, to prosecute his circuit journeys through the country, he at length confined his magisterial duties to Ramah and its neighborhood (1Sa 7:15), delegating to his sons as his deputies the administration of justice in the southern districts of Palestine, their provincial court being held at Beer-sheba. The young men, however, did not inherit the high qualities of their father. Having corrupted the fountains of justice for their own private aggrandizement, a deputation of the leading men in the country lodged a complaint against them in headquarters, accompanied with a formal demand for a change in the government. The limited and occasional authority of the judges, the disunion and jealousy of the tribes under the administration of those rulers, had been creating a desire for a united and permanent form of government; while the advanced age of Samuel, together with the risk of his death happening in the then unsettled state of the people, was the occasion of calling forth an expression of this desire now.

JFB: 1Sa 8:6-10 - -- Personal and family feelings might affect his views of this public movement. But his dissatisfaction arose principally from the proposed change being ...

Personal and family feelings might affect his views of this public movement. But his dissatisfaction arose principally from the proposed change being revolutionary in its character. Though it would not entirely subvert their theocratic government, the appointment of a visible monarch would necessarily tend to throw out of view their unseen King and Head. God intimated, through Samuel, that their request would, in anger, be granted, while at the same time he apprised them of some of the evils that would result from their choice.

JFB: 1Sa 8:11 - -- The following is a very just and graphic picture of the despotic governments which anciently and still are found in the East, and into conformity with...

The following is a very just and graphic picture of the despotic governments which anciently and still are found in the East, and into conformity with which the Hebrew monarchy, notwithstanding the restrictions prescribed by the law, gradually slid.

JFB: 1Sa 8:11 - -- Oriental sovereigns claim a right to the services of any of their subjects at pleasure.

Oriental sovereigns claim a right to the services of any of their subjects at pleasure.

JFB: 1Sa 8:11 - -- The royal equipages were, generally throughout the East (as in Persia they still are), preceded and accompanied by a number of attendants who ran on f...

The royal equipages were, generally throughout the East (as in Persia they still are), preceded and accompanied by a number of attendants who ran on foot.

JFB: 1Sa 8:12 - -- In the East, a person must accept any office to which he may be nominated by the king, however irksome it may be to his taste or ruinous to his intere...

In the East, a person must accept any office to which he may be nominated by the king, however irksome it may be to his taste or ruinous to his interests.

JFB: 1Sa 8:13 - -- Cookery, baking, and the kindred works are, in Eastern countries, female employment, and thousands of young women are occupied with these offices in t...

Cookery, baking, and the kindred works are, in Eastern countries, female employment, and thousands of young women are occupied with these offices in the palaces even of petty princes.

JFB: 1Sa 8:14-18 - -- The circumstances mentioned here might be illustrated by exact analogies in the conduct of many Oriental monarchs in the present day.

The circumstances mentioned here might be illustrated by exact analogies in the conduct of many Oriental monarchs in the present day.

JFB: 1Sa 8:19-22 - -- They sneered at Samuel's description as a bugbear to frighten them. Determined, at all hazards, to gain their object, they insisted on being made like...

They sneered at Samuel's description as a bugbear to frighten them. Determined, at all hazards, to gain their object, they insisted on being made like all the other nations, though it was their glory and happiness to be unlike other nations in having the Lord for their King and Lawgiver (Num 23:9; Deu 33:28). Their demand was conceded, for the government of a king had been provided for in the law; and they were dismissed to wait the appointment, which God had reserved to Himself (Deu 17:14-20).

Clarke: 1Sa 8:1 - -- When Samuel was old - Supposed to be about sixty

When Samuel was old - Supposed to be about sixty

Clarke: 1Sa 8:1 - -- He made his sons judges - He appointed them as his lieutenants to superintend certain affairs in Beer-sheba, which he could not conveniently attend ...

He made his sons judges - He appointed them as his lieutenants to superintend certain affairs in Beer-sheba, which he could not conveniently attend to himself. But they were never judges in the proper sense of the word; Samuel was the last judge in Israel, and he judged it to the day of his death. See 1Sa 7:16.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:3 - -- His sons walked not in his ways - Their iniquity is pointed out in three words 1.    They turned aside after lucre; the original ( ב...

His sons walked not in his ways - Their iniquity is pointed out in three words

1.    They turned aside after lucre; the original ( בצע batsa ) signifies to cut, clip, break off; and therefore Mr. Parkhurst thinks that it means nearly the same with our clipping of coin. It however expresses here the idea of avarice, of getting money by hook or by crook. The Targum says, "They looked after ממון דשקר mamon dishkar , the mammon of unrighteousness;"of which they did not make unto themselves friends but enemies; see the note on Mat 6:24

2.    They took bribes; שחד shochad , gifts or presents, to blind their eyes

3.    They perverted judgment - they turned judgment aside; they put it out of its regular path; they sold it to the highest bidder: thus the wicked rich man had his cause, and the poor man was oppressed and deprived of his right

This was the custom in our own country before Magna Charta was obtained; he that would speed in the king’ s court must bribe all the officers, and fee both the king and queen! I have found in our ancient records the most barefaced and shameful examples of this kind; but it was totally abolished, invito rege , by that provision in the above charter which states, Nulli vendemus, nulli negabimvs ant differemus rectum aut judicium ; "To no man will we sell, to no man will we deny or defer, justice and right."It was customary in those inauspicious times, for judgment to be delayed in banco regis , in the king’ s court, as long as there was any hope that more money would be paid in order to bring it to issue. And there were cases, where the king did not like the party, in which he denied justice and judgment entirely! Magna Charta brought them to book, and brought the subject to his right

Of those times it might well be said, as Homer did, Iliad xvi., ver. 387

Οἱ βιῃ αγορη σκολιας κρινωσι θεμιστας,

Εκ δε δικην ελασωσι, θεων οπιν ουκ αλεγοντες.

"When guilty mortals break the eternal laws

Or judges, bribed, betray the righteous cause.

"When the laws are perverted by force; when justice is expelled from her seat; when judges are swayed from the right, regardless of the vengeance of Heaven."Or, in other words, these were times in which the streams of justice were poisoned in their source, and judges neither feared God nor regarded man.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:5 - -- Make us a king - Hitherto, from the time in which they were a people, the Israelites were under a theocracy, they had no other king but God. Now the...

Make us a king - Hitherto, from the time in which they were a people, the Israelites were under a theocracy, they had no other king but God. Now they desire to have a king like the other nations around them, who may be their general in battle; for this is the point at which they principally aim.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:6 - -- The thing displeased Samuel - Because he saw that this amounted to a formal renunciation of the Divine government

The thing displeased Samuel - Because he saw that this amounted to a formal renunciation of the Divine government

Clarke: 1Sa 8:6 - -- Samuel prayed unto the Lord - He begged to know his mind in this important business.

Samuel prayed unto the Lord - He begged to know his mind in this important business.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:7 - -- They have rejected me - They wish to put that government in the hands of a mortal, which was always in the hands of their God. But hearken unto thei...

They have rejected me - They wish to put that government in the hands of a mortal, which was always in the hands of their God. But hearken unto their voice - grant them what they request. So we find God grants that in his displeasure which he withholds in his mercy.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:9 - -- Show them the manner of the king - The word משפט mishpat , which we here render manner, signifies simply what the king would and might require,...

Show them the manner of the king - The word משפט mishpat , which we here render manner, signifies simply what the king would and might require, according to the manner in which kings in general ruled; all of whom, in those times, were absolute and despotic

The whole of this manner of the king is well illustrated by Puffendorf

"Hitherto,"says he, "the people of Israel had lived under governors raised up of God, who had exacted no tribute of them, nor put them to any charge; but, little content with this form of government. they desire to have a king like other nations, who should live in magnificence and pomp, keep armies, and be able to resist any invasion. Samuel informs them what it was they desired; that when they understood it, they might consider whether they would persist in their choice If they would have a king splendidly attended, he tells them that he would take their sons for his chariots, etc.; if they would have him keep up constant forces, then he would appoint them for colonels and captains, and employ those in his wars who were accustomed to follow their family business; and since, after the manner of other kings, he must keep a stately court, they must be content that their daughters should serve in several offices, which the king would think below the dignity of his wives and daughters, 1Sa 8:13. Many ministers also, in several departments, both of war and peace, must have salaries to support them, which must be paid out of their fields and vineyards, 1Sa 8:14. In one word, that to sustain his dignity their king would exact the tenth of all they possessed, and be maintained in a royal manner out of their estates.

It is perfectly vain in Grotius, or any one else, to state that this shows what a king, as king, may any where in virtue of his office, claim and exact; and that he can take the property and persons of his subjects, and dispose of them as he may judge necessary for the exigence of the state. This was the manner of Saul, but Saul was not a king of God’ s choosing: "He gave him in his wrath, and took him away in his displeasure;"and the manner of such a king should not be arrogated by any potentate who affects to rule jure divino , by Divine right. The manner of the king of God’ s choice is distinctly detailed, Deu 17:15-20, to which the reader will do well to refer, that he may have an impartial statement of the subject.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:19 - -- The people refused to obey - They would have the king, his manner and all, notwithstanding the solemn warning which they here receive.

The people refused to obey - They would have the king, his manner and all, notwithstanding the solemn warning which they here receive.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:20 - -- May judge us - This appears to be a rejection of Samuel

May judge us - This appears to be a rejection of Samuel

Clarke: 1Sa 8:20 - -- Go out before us - Be in every respect our head and governor

Go out before us - Be in every respect our head and governor

Clarke: 1Sa 8:20 - -- And fight our battles - Be the general of our armies.

And fight our battles - Be the general of our armies.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:21 - -- Rehearsed them in the ears of the Lord - He went to the altar, and in his secret devotion laid the whole business before God.

Rehearsed them in the ears of the Lord - He went to the altar, and in his secret devotion laid the whole business before God.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:22 - -- Hearken unto their voice - Let them have what they desire, and let them abide the consequences

Hearken unto their voice - Let them have what they desire, and let them abide the consequences

Clarke: 1Sa 8:22 - -- Go ye every man unto his city - It seems the elders of the people had tarried all this time with Samuel, and when he had received his ultimate answe...

Go ye every man unto his city - It seems the elders of the people had tarried all this time with Samuel, and when he had received his ultimate answer from God, he told them of it and dismissed them

On this account we may observe

1.    That God did not change the government of Israel; it was the people themselves who changed it

2.    That though God permitted them to have a king, yet he did not approve of him

3.    That, notwithstanding he did not suffer them to choose the man, he ordered his servant Samuel to choose him by lot, he disposing of that lot

4.    That God never gave up the supreme government; he was still King in Israel, and the king, so called, was only the vicegerent or deputy of the Lord

5.    That no king of Judah attempted to be supreme, therefore they never made new laws, nor altered the old; which was a positive confession that God was the supreme Legislator

6.    That an absolute monarchy is always an evil, and is contrary to all the rights, civil and religious, of mankind; a mode of government that all people should avoid, as pregnant with evils to mankind

7.    That although it was a sin in the Israelites to desire a king, that is, to change a constitution of which God was the author, yet kingly government, properly understood, is a good of the first magnitude to the civil happiness of mankind

8.    That by kingly government, properly understood, I mean such a monarchical government as that of Great Britain, where the king, the nobles, and the people, are duly mixed, each having his proper part in the government, and each preventing the other from running to excess, and all limited by law

9.    That the three grand forms of government which have obtained among mankind, viz., monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy, have each certain advantages without which no state can be well preserved; but they have evils by which any state may be injured

10.    That, from a proper mixture of these, the advantages of the whole may be reaped without any of their attendant evils, and that this is the British constitution; which, not merely the wisdom of our ancestors, but the providence of God has given unto us, and of which no other state has had common sense enough to avail themselves, though they see that because of this the British empire is the most powerful and the most happy in the universe, and likely at last to give laws to the whole world

The manner of our king is constitutional, widely different from that of Saul, and from that of any other potentate in the four quarters of the globe. He is the father of his people, and the people feel and love him as such. He has all the power necessary to do good; they have all the liberty necessary to their political happiness, had they only a diminution of taxes, which at present are too heavy for any nation to bear.

Defender: 1Sa 8:1 - -- Since Samuel was a judge in Israel as long as he lived (1Sa 7:15), here is a specific case when there were contemporaneous judges in Israel; Samuel ha...

Since Samuel was a judge in Israel as long as he lived (1Sa 7:15), here is a specific case when there were contemporaneous judges in Israel; Samuel had a circuit, but his main "court" was in Ramah (1Sa 7:17). His two sons served as judges in Beersheba, about fifty miles south of Ramah. This fact gives a clue as to why the chronology of the Judges period is so difficult to work out (over seventy-five different chronologies have been published). It is possible that at least some of the periods of rest and oppression listed in the book refer to simultaneous periods in different regions."

Defender: 1Sa 8:7 - -- It was actually God's will for His people to have a king, for eventually the Messiah would be their king (Gen 49:10; Num 24:17). God had, through Mose...

It was actually God's will for His people to have a king, for eventually the Messiah would be their king (Gen 49:10; Num 24:17). God had, through Moses, instructed Israel in how a future king should rule and how he should be chosen (Deu 17:14-20). However, their motives in desiring a king at this time were altogether wrong (1Sa 8:19, 1Sa 8:20).

Defender: 1Sa 8:7 - -- It was not that the people really needed a king to "judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles" (1Sa 8:20). God Himself had been their king...

It was not that the people really needed a king to "judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles" (1Sa 8:20). God Himself had been their king, and had gone before them and fought their battles whenever they were faithful to Him. But they deliberately rejected this theocratic kingdom, and the judges that God had raised up (such as Samuel), in order that they "may be like all the nations" (1Sa 8:20). As a result of their complaining, God "gave them their request; but sent leanness into their souls" (Psa 106:15), just as He had done in the wilderness when they complained about their food."

TSK: 1Sa 8:1 - -- am 2892, bc 1112, An, Ex, Is, 379 made his : Deu 16:18, Deu 16:19; Jdg 8:22, Jdg 8:23; 2Ch 19:5, 2Ch 19:6; Neh 7:2; 1Ti 5:21 sons judges : Jdg 5:10, J...

am 2892, bc 1112, An, Ex, Is, 379

made his : Deu 16:18, Deu 16:19; Jdg 8:22, Jdg 8:23; 2Ch 19:5, 2Ch 19:6; Neh 7:2; 1Ti 5:21

sons judges : Jdg 5:10, Jdg 10:4, Jdg 12:14

TSK: 1Sa 8:2 - -- Joel : 1Ch 6:28, 1Ch 6:38, Vashni

Joel : 1Ch 6:28, 1Ch 6:38, Vashni

TSK: 1Sa 8:3 - -- his sons : 2Sa 15:4; 1Ki 12:6-11; 2Ki 21:1-3; Ecc 2:19; Jer 22:15-17 but turned : Exo 18:21; Deu 16:19; Psa 15:5, Psa 26:10; Isa 33:15; 1Ti 3:3, 1Ti 6...

TSK: 1Sa 8:4 - -- the elders : Exo 3:16, Exo 24:1; 2Sa 5:3

the elders : Exo 3:16, Exo 24:1; 2Sa 5:3

TSK: 1Sa 8:5 - -- now make : 1Sa 8:6-8, 1Sa 8:19, 1Sa 8:20, 1Sa 12:17; Num 23:9; Deu 17:14, Deu 17:15; Hos 13:10, Hos 13:11; Act 13:21

TSK: 1Sa 8:6 - -- displeased : Heb. was evil in the eyes of, 1Sa 12:17 prayed : 1Sa 15:11; Exo 32:21, Exo 32:32; Num 16:15, Num 16:22, Num 16:46; Ezr 9:3-5; Psa 109:4; ...

displeased : Heb. was evil in the eyes of, 1Sa 12:17

prayed : 1Sa 15:11; Exo 32:21, Exo 32:32; Num 16:15, Num 16:22, Num 16:46; Ezr 9:3-5; Psa 109:4; Luk 6:11, Luk 6:12; Phi 4:6; Jam 1:5

TSK: 1Sa 8:7 - -- Hearken : Num 22:20; Psa 81:11, Psa 81:12; Isa 66:4; Hos 13:10, Hos 13:11 they have not : 1Sa 10:19, 1Sa 12:17-19; Exo 16:8; Mat 10:24, Mat 10:25, Mat...

TSK: 1Sa 8:8 - -- Exo 14:11, Exo 14:12, Exo 16:3, Exo 17:2, Exo 32:1; Num 14:2-4, Num 16:2, Num 16:3, Num 16:41; Deu 9:24; Jdg 2:2, Jdg 2:3, Jdg 2:20, Jdg 4:1, Jdg 6:1,...

TSK: 1Sa 8:9 - -- hearken unto : or, obey howbeit : etc. or, notwithstanding when thou hast solemnly protested against them, then thou shalt shew, etc. Eze 3:18 the man...

hearken unto : or, obey

howbeit : etc. or, notwithstanding when thou hast solemnly protested against them, then thou shalt shew, etc. Eze 3:18

the manner : 1Sa 8:11-18, 1Sa 2:13, 1Sa 10:25, 1Sa 14:52; Eze 45:7, Eze 45:8, Eze 46:18

TSK: 1Sa 8:11 - -- This will : 1Sa 10:25; Deu 17:14-20 He will take : 1Sa 14:52; 1Ki 9:22, 1Ki 9:23, 1Ki 10:26, 1Ki 12:4, 1Ki 12:10; 2Ch 26:10-15 run : 2Sa 15:1; 1Ki 1:5...

TSK: 1Sa 8:12 - -- appoint : 1Chr. 27:1-22 and will set : 1Ki 4:7, 1Ki 4:22, 1Ki 4:23, 1Ki 4:27, 1Ki 4:28; 2Ch 32:28, 2Ch 32:29

appoint : 1Chr. 27:1-22

and will set : 1Ki 4:7, 1Ki 4:22, 1Ki 4:23, 1Ki 4:27, 1Ki 4:28; 2Ch 32:28, 2Ch 32:29

TSK: 1Sa 8:14 - -- 1Sa 22:7; 1Ki 21:7, 1Ki 21:19; Eze 46:18

TSK: 1Sa 8:15 - -- officers : Heb. eunuchs, Gen 37:36; Isa 39:7; Dan 1:3, Dan 1:7-10, Dan 1:18

officers : Heb. eunuchs, Gen 37:36; Isa 39:7; Dan 1:3, Dan 1:7-10, Dan 1:18

TSK: 1Sa 8:18 - -- cry out : Isa 8:21 and the Lord : ""Hitherto,""says Puffendorf, ""the people of Israel had lived under governors raised up by God, who had exacted no ...

cry out : Isa 8:21

and the Lord : ""Hitherto,""says Puffendorf, ""the people of Israel had lived under governors raised up by God, who had exacted no tribute of them, nor put them to any charge; but little content with this form of government, they desire to have a king like other nations, who should live in magnificence and pomp, keep armies, and be able to resist any invasion. Samuel informs them what it was they desired; that, when they understood it, they might consider whether they would persist in their choice. If they would have a king splendidly attended, he tells them that he would take their sons for his chariots, etc.caps1 . icaps0 f they would have him keep up constant forces, then he would appoint them for colonels and captains, and employ those in his wars who were accustomed to follow their family business; and since, after the manner of other kings, he must keep a stately court, they must be content that their daughters should serve in several offices, which the king would think below the dignity of his wives and daughters (1Sa 8:13). In one word, that, to sustain his dignity, their king would exact the tenth of all they possessed, and be maintained in a royal manner out of their estates."

will not hear : Job 27:9; Psa 18:41; Pro 1:25-28, Pro 21:13; Isa 1:15; Mic 3:4; Luk 13:25

TSK: 1Sa 8:19 - -- refused to obey : Psa 81:11; Jer 7:13, Jer 44:16; Eze 33:31

refused to obey : Psa 81:11; Jer 7:13, Jer 44:16; Eze 33:31

TSK: 1Sa 8:20 - -- 1Sa 8:5; Exo 33:16; Lev 20:24-26; Num 23:9; Deu 7:6; Psa 106:35; Joh 15:19; Rom 12:12; 2Co 6:17; Phi 3:20; 1Pe 2:9

TSK: 1Sa 8:21 - -- he rehearsed : Jdg 11:11

he rehearsed : Jdg 11:11

TSK: 1Sa 8:22 - -- 1Sa 8:7; Hos 13:11

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: 1Sa 8:1 - -- This verse implies a long period, probably not less than 20 years, of which we have no account except what is contained in the brief notice in 1Sa 7...

This verse implies a long period, probably not less than 20 years, of which we have no account except what is contained in the brief notice in 1Sa 7:13-17. The general idea conveyed is of a time of peace and prosperity, analogous to that under other Judges.

Barnes: 1Sa 8:2 - -- The mention of Beer-sheba, on the extreme southern frontier of Judah, as the place where Samuel’ s sons judged Israel is remarkable. It was pro...

The mention of Beer-sheba, on the extreme southern frontier of Judah, as the place where Samuel’ s sons judged Israel is remarkable. It was probably due to the recovery of territory from the usurpation of the Philistines 1Sa 7:14.

Barnes: 1Sa 8:6 - -- See the margin which implies that the thing spoken of caused anger, indignation, or some revulsion of feeling (see Gen 21:11-12). The answer of the ...

See the margin which implies that the thing spoken of caused anger, indignation, or some revulsion of feeling (see Gen 21:11-12). The answer of the Lord 1Sa 8:7 shows that Samuel’ s personal feelings had been hurt. They were soothed by being reminded of the continued ingratitude of the people to God Himself, upon whom, in fact, a greater slight was put by this very request for a king "like all the nations,"than upon Samuel (compare Mat 10:24; Joh 15:18, Joh 15:20). For a comment on this transaction, see Hos 13:9-11; Act 13:21-22.

Barnes: 1Sa 8:12 - -- This organization was as old as the time of Moses Num 31:14; Deu 1:15, and prevailed among the Philistines also 1Sa 29:2. The civil and military div...

This organization was as old as the time of Moses Num 31:14; Deu 1:15, and prevailed among the Philistines also 1Sa 29:2. The civil and military divisions were identical, and the civil officers were the same as the captains of thousands, hundreds, fifties, and tens, in time of war.

To ear his ground - literally, "to plow his plowing.""To ear"is an old English word, now obsolete, for to plow.

Barnes: 1Sa 8:14-18 - -- See illustrations in marginal references; 1Ki 5:13-18; 1Ki 12:4.

See illustrations in marginal references; 1Ki 5:13-18; 1Ki 12:4.

Barnes: 1Sa 8:20 - -- Fight our battles - It appears from 1Sa 12:12, that the warlike movements of Nahash had already begun to excite alarm.

Fight our battles - It appears from 1Sa 12:12, that the warlike movements of Nahash had already begun to excite alarm.

Barnes: 1Sa 8:22 - -- A repetition for the third time 1Sa 8:7, 1Sa 8:9 of the expression of God’ s will in the matter, marks Samuel’ s great unwillingness to co...

A repetition for the third time 1Sa 8:7, 1Sa 8:9 of the expression of God’ s will in the matter, marks Samuel’ s great unwillingness to comply with the people’ s request. Besides the natural aversion which he felt to being thrust aside after so many years of faithful and laborious service, and the natural prejudice which he would feel at his age against a new form of government, he doubtless saw how much of the evil heart of unbelief there was in the desire to have a visible king for their leader, instead of trusting to the invisible Lord who had hitherto led them. But God had His own purpose in setting up the kingdom which was to be typical of the kingdom of His only begotten Son.

Poole: 1Sa 8:1 - -- when Samuel was old and so unable for his former travels and labours, he made his sons judges; not supreme judges, for such there was to be but one,...

when Samuel was old and so unable for his former travels and labours, he made his sons judges; not supreme judges, for such there was to be but one, and that of God’ s choosing, and Samuel still kept that office in his own hands, 1Sa 7:15 ; but his vicegerents or deputies, who might go about and determine matters, but with reservation of a right of appeals to himself. He advanceth his sons to this place, not so much out of paternal indulgence, the sad effects whereof he had seen in Eli; but because he had doubtless instructed them in a singular manner, and fitted them for the highest employments; and he hoped that the example he had set them, and the inspection and authority he still had over them, would have obliged them to diligence and faithfulness in the execution of their trust.

Poole: 1Sa 8:2 - -- In the southern border of the land of Canaan, where he placed his sons, because these parts were very remote from his house at Ramah; where, and in ...

In the southern border of the land of Canaan, where he placed his sons, because these parts were very remote from his house at Ramah; where, and in the neighbouring places, Samuel himself still executed the office of the judge; sending his sons to reside and judge in distant places, for the ease and convenience of the people.

Poole: 1Sa 8:3 - -- Opportunity and temptation drew forth and discovered the corruption in them, which till now was hid from their father, and, it may be, from themselv...

Opportunity and temptation drew forth and discovered the corruption in them, which till now was hid from their father, and, it may be, from themselves.

Poole: 1Sa 8:4 - -- The elders either for age, or dignity and power.

The elders either for age, or dignity and power.

Poole: 1Sa 8:5 - -- They feared that Samuel would not live long; and that either he through infirmity and indulgence might leave the government in his sons’ hands...

They feared that Samuel would not live long; and that either he through infirmity and indulgence might leave the government in his sons’ hands, or that they would invade and keep it after their father’ s death; and therefore they jointly make their complaints against them, and procure their removal from their places. Thus they are brought low, and crushed by those very wicked ways by which they desired to advance and establish themselves. So true is it, that honesty is the best policy, and unrighteousness the greatest folly.

Make us a king to judge us: their conclusion outruns their premises, and their desires exceed their reasons or arguments, which extended no further than to the removal of Samuel’ s sons from their places, and the procuring some other just and prudent assistance to Samuel’ s age. Nor was the grant of their desire a remedy for their disease, but rather an aggravation of it; for the sons of their king might and were likely to be as corrupt as Samuel’ s sons; and if they were, would not be so easily removed as these were.

Like all the nations i.e. as most of the nations about us have. But there was not the like reason, because God had separated them from all other nations, and cautioned them against the imitation of their examples, and had taken them into his own immediate care and government; which privilege other nations had not.

Poole: 1Sa 8:6 - -- The thing displeased Samuel; not their complaint of his sons, but their desire of a king, as is apparent from the following words, and from the whol...

The thing displeased Samuel; not their complaint of his sons, but their desire of a king, as is apparent from the following words, and from the whole course of the story; which was so grievous to him, partly because of their injustice and ingratitude to himself, whose government, though it had been so sweet and beneficial to them, they plainly show themselves weary of; and principally because God was hereby dishonoured and provoked, by that distrust of God, and that vain-glory and ambition, and that itch after changes, which were the manifest causes of this desire; and because of that great servitude and misery which he wisely foresaw the people would hereby bring upon themselves, as he particularly informs them, 1Sa 8:11 , &c.

Samuel prayed unto the Lord for the pardon of their sin, and desire of direction and help from God in this great affair.

Poole: 1Sa 8:7 - -- Hearken unto the voice of the people God grants their desire in anger, and for their punishment, as is affirmed, Hos 13:11 . Compare Num 22:13,20 De ...

Hearken unto the voice of the people God grants their desire in anger, and for their punishment, as is affirmed, Hos 13:11 . Compare Num 22:13,20 De 1:22 Psa 77:20 .

They have not rejected thee i.e. not thee only, nor principally; compare Gen 32:28 Exo 16:7 Hos 6:6 Mat 10:20 ; but this injury and contumely reflects chiefly upon me and my government,

that I should not reign over them to wit, by my immediate and peculiar government, which was the great honour, safety, and happiness of his people, if they had had wit to know it, or hearts to prize it. And all the infelicities of Israel, under this kind of government, did not proceed from the nature of the government, but from the ungovernableness and wickedness of the people, which, they might be sure, would produce the same or greater calamities under their kingly government.

Quest. First, Did not God reign over them when they had kings?

Answ Yes, in a general way, but not in such a peculiar manner as he did by the judges, who were generally raised and called by God’ s particular appointment, endowed and sanctified by his Spirit, directed and assisted by his special providence upon all emergencies; whereas all things were for the most part contrary in their kings.

Quest. Secondly, Was it simply unlawful for the people to desire a king?

Answ No, as appears from Deu 17:14 ; but herein was their sin, that they desired it upon sinful grounds, of which see on 1Sa 8:7 , and in an impetuous manner, and at an unseasonable time, and without asking leave or advice from God; which in so weighty and difficult a case they could not neglect without great sin.

Poole: 1Sa 8:8 - -- Thou farest no worse than myself This he speaks for Samuel’ s comfort and vindication.

Thou farest no worse than myself This he speaks for Samuel’ s comfort and vindication.

Poole: 1Sa 8:9 - -- Protest solemnly unto them that, if it be possible, thou mayst yet prevent their sin and misery. The manner of the king i.e. of the kings which the...

Protest solemnly unto them that, if it be possible, thou mayst yet prevent their sin and misery.

The manner of the king i.e. of the kings which they desire, like the kings of other nations. He speaks not of the just authority, or the right of their kings, but of their practice, as is evident from divers of the following particulars, which are expressly forbidden and condemned in Scripture, as we shall see.

Poole: 1Sa 8:11 - -- He will take your sons to wit, injuriously and by violence, as this Hebrew word is oft used, as Gen 20:3 27:36 Job 5:5 ; and so it must be here; beca...

He will take your sons to wit, injuriously and by violence, as this Hebrew word is oft used, as Gen 20:3 27:36 Job 5:5 ; and so it must be here; because otherwise the king would have no more privilege than any of his subjects; for any man might take a son with his own or parents’ consent.

And to be his horsemen , or, and for his horses ; for so the Hebrew word parash sometimes signifies, as Isa 21:7,9 28:28 ; to ride his horses.

Poole: 1Sa 8:12 - -- He will appoint him Heb. to or for himself emphatically, i.e. for his own fancy, or glory, or conveniency, or evil design, and not only when the ...

He will appoint him Heb. to or for himself emphatically, i.e. for his own fancy, or glory, or conveniency, or evil design, and not only when the necessities of the kingdom or commonwealth require it, as the judges did. And though this might seem to be no encumbrance, as it is here represented, but an honour and advantage to the persons so advanced, yet even in them that honour was accompanied with great dangers, and pernicious snares of many kinds, which those faint shadows of glory could not recompense; and as to the public, their pomp and power proved very burdensome and oppressive to the people, whose lands and fruits were taken from them, and bestowed upon these, for the support of their state, as it follows below, 1Sa 8:14,15 .

And to reap his harvest at his own pleasure, and without their consent, when possibly their own fields required all their time and pains.

To make his instruments of war and

instruments of his chariots he will press them for all sorts of his work, and that upon his own terms.

Poole: 1Sa 8:13 - -- Which would be more grievous to their parents, and more dangerous to themselves, because of the tenderness of that sex, and liableness to many injur...

Which would be more grievous to their parents, and more dangerous to themselves, because of the tenderness of that sex, and liableness to many injuries.

Poole: 1Sa 8:14 - -- He will take your fields to wit, by fraud or force, as Ahab did from Naboth. And give them to his servants: He will not only take the fruits of you...

He will take your fields to wit, by fraud or force, as Ahab did from Naboth.

And give them to his servants: He will not only take the fruits of your lands for his own use, but will take away your possessions to give to his servants.

Poole: 1Sa 8:15 - -- He will take the tenth: besides the several tenths which God hath reserved for his service and servants, he will, when he pleaseth, impose another te...

He will take the tenth: besides the several tenths which God hath reserved for his service and servants, he will, when he pleaseth, impose another tenth upon you.

To his officers Heb. to his eunuchs ; which may be properly understood, and may imply a further injury, that he should, against the command of God, make some of his people eunuchs, and take those into his court and favour which God would have cast out of the congregation.

Poole: 1Sa 8:16 - -- By constraint, and without sufficient recompense

By constraint, and without sufficient recompense

Poole: 1Sa 8:17 - -- i.e. He shall use you like slaves, and deprive you of that liberty which you now enjoy.

i.e. He shall use you like slaves, and deprive you of that liberty which you now enjoy.

Poole: 1Sa 8:18 - -- Ye shall cry out in that day ye shall bitterly mourn for the sad effects of this inordinate desire of a king. The Lord will not hear you in that day...

Ye shall cry out in that day ye shall bitterly mourn for the sad effects of this inordinate desire of a king.

The Lord will not hear you in that day because you will not hear him, nor obey his counsel, in this day. Compare Pro 1:24 , &c. Zec 7:13 .

Poole: 1Sa 8:19 - -- They said, Nay i.e. these things shall never be, these are but vain suppositions to affright us from our purpose. Thus they are not ashamed to give S...

They said, Nay i.e. these things shall never be, these are but vain suppositions to affright us from our purpose. Thus they are not ashamed to give Samuel the lie, of whose modesty, integrity, and prophetical spirit they had so great assurance, as if he had reigned those pretences merely to keep the power in his own and his sons’ hands.

We will have a king over us we will have a king, whatsoever it cost us, although all thy predictions should be verified.

Poole: 1Sa 8:20 - -- That we also may be like all the nations: woeful stupidity! whereas it was their glory and happiness that they were unlike all other nations, Num 23:...

That we also may be like all the nations: woeful stupidity! whereas it was their glory and happiness that they were unlike all other nations, Num 23:9 Deu 33:28 , as in other glorious privileges, so especially in this, that the Lord was their only and immediate King and Lawgiver.

Poole: 1Sa 8:21 - -- He repeated them privately between God and himself; partly for his own vindication and comfort; and partly as a foundation for his prayers to God, f...

He repeated them privately between God and himself; partly for his own vindication and comfort; and partly as a foundation for his prayers to God, for direction and assistance in this difficult case.

Poole: 1Sa 8:22 - -- Betake yourselves to your several occasions, till you hear more from me in this matter; for God hath heard your words, and will give way to your irr...

Betake yourselves to your several occasions, till you hear more from me in this matter; for God hath heard your words, and will give way to your irregular and obstinate desire; and accordingly I shall wait upon God for the determination of the person, which he hath wholly reserved to himself, as for judges, so for the king also, Deu 17:15 , and for the regulation of all the circumstances.

Haydock: 1Sa 8:1 - -- Servants, or slaves. The Hebrews enjoyed greater liberty than any of the nations in the East, yet they are styled slaves, chap. xvii. 8. They were ...

Servants, or slaves. The Hebrews enjoyed greater liberty than any of the nations in the East, yet they are styled slaves, chap. xvii. 8. They were nearly on the same footing as the ancient Germans. "Each governed in his own place of abode. The Lord requires of them a quantity of corn, cattle, or clothing, and so far the slave obeys;" servus hactenus paret. (Tacitus, Germ.) The Hebrews were also bound to follow the king to battle. The Egyptians, Persians, &c., were under greater oppression. Herodotus (iii. 31,) informs us, that when Cambyses designed to marry his own sister, his counsellors replied, that they found no express law to this effect; but there was another, "that the king of Persia may do whatever he please." The highest officers, and even his brothers, were styled, "slaves, Greek: Douloi, of the great king." (Aristotle, Mund.)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:1 - -- Old. Houbigant would translate, "when he ws growing old," senesceret, as he supposes he was now nearly sixty, having judged about twenty-five yea...

Old. Houbigant would translate, "when he ws growing old," senesceret, as he supposes he was now nearly sixty, having judged about twenty-five years, and living another twenty as partner with Saul. (Prol. lxii.) See chap. vii. 15. (Haydock) ---

Judges, as his delegates in the southern parts of the country. (Calmet) ---

Josephus says one of them was stationed at Bethel. (Antiquities vi. 3.)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:2 - -- In, or "as far as" Bersabee, from Dan, that is, throughout Palestine. (Calmet)

In, or "as far as" Bersabee, from Dan, that is, throughout Palestine. (Calmet)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:3 - -- Judgment. Samuel was not to blame, and hence he was not punished like Heli. (Menochius) --- However, the misconduct of the children of these two j...

Judgment. Samuel was not to blame, and hence he was not punished like Heli. (Menochius) ---

However, the misconduct of the children of these two judges, in succession, (Haydock) gave occasion to the people to demand a king, who might not be tempted by bribes. (Worthington) ---

It is surprising that most of the great men who are mentioned in history, had degenerate children. (Calmet) ---

Such were some of David's sons, as well as Cambyses, the son of Cyrus, &c. (Haydock) ---

Was it because their fathers were too much taken up with the affairs of state, to watch over the education of their children? or rather, because these young men confided too much on the merits of their family, and took no pains to tread in the footsteps of their parents? (Calmet) ---

"We have here, says Josephus, a manifest proof that children do not always resemble their parents, but sometimes good men spring from the wicked; and on the contrary, the virtuous have an evil progeny."

Haydock: 1Sa 8:5 - -- Judge us, in a different manner from what had been hitherto done. (Haydock) --- By a crying ingratitude, they reject the government of a wise old m...

Judge us, in a different manner from what had been hitherto done. (Haydock) ---

By a crying ingratitude, they reject the government of a wise old man, who had rendered them the most signal services. Perhaps the power of Naas, king of the Ammonites, might afford them some pretext for acting as they did. (Calmet) ---

As all, &c. They seem to prefer the dominion of kings, who ruled over the surrounding barbarous nations as they thought proper, (Haydock) before one who should be tied down to observe the laws, prescribed by God, (Menochius) in case the Israelites should wish to have a king, Deuteronomy xvii. (Haydock) ---

In the East, monarchy was the most ancient form of government. (Tacitus, Hist. iv.; Just. i.) "Principio, imperium penes Reges erat."

Haydock: 1Sa 8:6 - -- Samuel. Nothing could be more disrespectful to him, nor more ungrateful to God, who had distinguished them from all other nations, and had taken the...

Samuel. Nothing could be more disrespectful to him, nor more ungrateful to God, who had distinguished them from all other nations, and had taken the government upon himself, and appointed the judges as his lieutenants. The foolish Israelites wished to throw off this sweet yoke, and to be ruled in an arbitrary manner, like the infidels, as if God could not otherwise protect them from their enemies. ---

Lord. Josephus says that he passed the night without food or sleep, and the Lord appeared to him. The will or petition "of the people, filled Samuel with great uneasiness, who on account of his innate justice, did not like the regal power, as being to exorbitant. He rather approved of an aristocracy, as more conducive to the welfare of the people." (Antiquities vi. 4.) He means such an aristocracy as the Israelites had been accustomed to, under the guidance of men divinely commissioned, whence he elsewhere very properly styles it a theocracy, or "the government of God." (Haydock)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:7 - -- Thee. "God, in anger, grants a person what he desires wrongfully." (St. Augustine) --- He permits the people to follow their own plans; and the He...

Thee. "God, in anger, grants a person what he desires wrongfully." (St. Augustine) ---

He permits the people to follow their own plans; and the Hebrews believe, that he gave them Saul to punish them, being well apprised of his proud and cruel nature. (Cuneus Rep.) (Calmet) ---

Rejected, &c. The government of Israel hitherto had been a theocracy: in which God himself immediately ruled, by laws which he had enacted, and by judges extraordinarily raised up by himself: and therefore he complains that his people rejected him, in desiring a change of government, (Challoner) and wishing to appoint their own magistrates. The priests and judges had been commissioned by God, Exodus xix., and Deuteronomy xvii. (Worthington)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:8 - -- Thee. He comforts Samuel, by observing that it was not so much any fault of his, as the people's habitual fickle temper, which made them seek for th...

Thee. He comforts Samuel, by observing that it was not so much any fault of his, as the people's habitual fickle temper, which made them seek for this change. (Menochius)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:9 - -- The right. That is, the manner ( mishpat ) after which he shall proceed, having no one to control him, when he has the power in his hands. (Chall...

The right. That is, the manner ( mishpat ) after which he shall proceed, having no one to control him, when he has the power in his hands. (Challoner) ---

He intimates that the kings will frequently act in a tyrannical manner, ver. 11. (Menochius) ---

But the holy Fathers observe, that herein they do what is unjust, and contrary to God's law. St. Gregory remarks, that Achab is punished for taking the vineyard of Naboth, (3 Kings xxi.) while David will not take a piece of ground belonging to Ornan, even for an altar, without first paying a just price for it, 1 Paralipomenon xxi. 25. Some of these rights or customs are prohibited to the king, Deuteronomy xvii. 16. It is true, kings enjoy great prerogatives above judges, but never contrary to the law. They cannot take their subjects' goods: but the latter are bound to contribute to the maintenance of government; and, if they refuse, may be compelled. If kings should be guilty of excesses, "yet them are not to be deposed by the people,....but must be tolerated with patience, peace, and meekness, till God, by his sovereign authority, left in his Church, dispose of them, which his divine wisdom and goodness often deferred to do, as here he expressly forewarneth, (ver. 18) because he will punish the sins of the people by suffering evil princes to reign," Job xxxiv. 30. (Conc. Later. c. iii. de hœret.[Fourth Lateran Council, constitution iii., On Heretics?]) (Worthington) See St. Thomas Aquinas, [Summa Theologiae] 2. 2. q. 12. a. 2. ---

We may here also remark, that the people petitioned for a king, yet God made the choice; and, when he proved rebellious, selected another by the hand of Samuel, though he permitted the former to enjoy his dignity till death, chap. xiii., and xxxi. (Haydock) ---

Grotius (Jur. i. 1., and 4.) maintains that Samuel here proposes the just rights of the king, and that the prince has a greater right to any one's personal property, for the public good, than he has himself. In effect, the eastern kings regarded their subjects as slaves. But those who governed the Hebrews were to follow a different conduct; and Samuel is so far from approving of what some of them would do, that he mentions their tyranny, in order to dissuade the people from what they so inconsiderately requested. (Calmet) ---

The misconduct of rulers, is one of the most trying inconveniences to which a nation can be exposed. In such circumstances, "bear, say a pagan historian, (Haydock) with the luxury and avarice of those who hold dominion, as with other natural evils. There will be vices as long as men subsist, but neither will these continue for ever, and they are compensated by the intervention of better things or men." Meliorum interventu pensantur. (Tacitus) ---

Grotius at last seems to conclude, (Sup. c. iv. p. 97) that the right of the king here specified is only apparent, in as much as it includes "the obligation of making no resistance." (Haydock)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:11 - -- Chariots; to be drivers, (Menochius) or will make them fight from them. --- Footmen, or guards. Xenophon places 4000 armed with bucklers before, a...

Chariots; to be drivers, (Menochius) or will make them fight from them. ---

Footmen, or guards. Xenophon places 4000 armed with bucklers before, and 2000 with lances all round the chariot of Cyrus. See chap. xxii. 17.

Haydock: 1Sa 8:12 - -- Centurions, or body-guards. (Menochius) --- These offices might be honourable, but at the same time disagreeable, when people were forced to accept...

Centurions, or body-guards. (Menochius) ---

These offices might be honourable, but at the same time disagreeable, when people were forced to accept of them, and to neglect their more pleasing agricultural employment. The multitude of officers increases the expenses of the prince, and falls heavy upon the people. (Calmet)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:14 - -- Vineyards, as Achab did, though he first proposed to buy it.

Vineyards, as Achab did, though he first proposed to buy it.

Haydock: 1Sa 8:15 - -- Tenth. God had already claimed one tithe, which he had abandoned to his sacred ministers. We do not read that the kings of the Hebrews ever claimed...

Tenth. God had already claimed one tithe, which he had abandoned to his sacred ministers. We do not read that the kings of the Hebrews ever claimed (Calmet) a second tithe precisely, (Haydock) though they might have done it b the example of other kings, Leviticus xxvii. 30. Joseph had asserted the fifth part of the revenues of Egypt for its monarchs, Genesis xlvii. 26. ---

Eunuchs. Hebrew saris, denotes an officer of the court. It was not lawful for the Israelites to make any eunuchs, but they might employ foreigners.

Haydock: 1Sa 8:16 - -- Goodliest, in strength (Calmet) and beauty. (Menochius) --- Solomon made his people work at his buildings, and David employed an officer in the fie...

Goodliest, in strength (Calmet) and beauty. (Menochius) ---

Solomon made his people work at his buildings, and David employed an officer in the fields, 1 Paralipomenon xxvii. 26. Septuagint have read in a different manner, "He will tithe....your excellent droves of oxen." (Calmet) ---

They also specify, "the tithe of asses for his work." (Haydock)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:18 - -- The face, privately; for even groans will not be free. (Menochius) --- The event justified this prediction, as most of the kings of the Hebrews ru...

The face, privately; for even groans will not be free. (Menochius) ---

The event justified this prediction, as most of the kings of the Hebrews ruled like tyrants, and what was worse, engaged their subjects in idolatry, and drew down the heaviest judgments upon them. (Calmet) ---

Hear you, so as to deliver you from oppression, though he is always willing to hear those who truly repent. (Worthington)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:19 - -- Over us. The populace is generally inconstant, and fond of changes. (Menochius)

Over us. The populace is generally inconstant, and fond of changes. (Menochius)

Haydock: 1Sa 8:20 - -- Nations. We are neither better nor worse than the rest. What extravagance! for a people to abandon a state of happiness, and the dominion of God, a...

Nations. We are neither better nor worse than the rest. What extravagance! for a people to abandon a state of happiness, and the dominion of God, and to prefer the service of a man! (Calmet) ---

For us. This was the pretext, as Naas threatened them with war, chap. xii. 12. (Menochius)

Gill: 1Sa 8:1 - -- And it came to pass, when Samuel was old,.... The common notion of the Jews is, that he lived but fifty two years t; when a man is not usually called ...

And it came to pass, when Samuel was old,.... The common notion of the Jews is, that he lived but fifty two years t; when a man is not usually called an old man, unless the infirmities of old age came upon him sooner than they commonly do, through his indefatigable labours from his childhood, and the cares and burdens of government he had long bore; though some think he was about sixty years of age; and Abarbinel is of opinion that he was more than seventy. It is a rule with the Jews u, that a man is called an old man at sixty, and a grey headed man at seventy:

that he made his sons judges over Israel; under himself, not being able through old age to go the circuits he used; he sent them, and appointed them to hear and try causes in his stead, or settled them in some particular places in the land, and, as it seems by what follows, at Beersheba; though whether that was under his direction, or was their own choice, is not certain.

Gill: 1Sa 8:2 - -- Now the name of his firstborn was Joel,.... In 1Ch 6:28 he is called Vashni; See Gill on 1Ch 6:28. This was not Joel the prophet, as some have thought...

Now the name of his firstborn was Joel,.... In 1Ch 6:28 he is called Vashni; See Gill on 1Ch 6:28. This was not Joel the prophet, as some have thought, neither his parentage, nor his office, nor his times, will agree with this:

and the name of his second Abiah: which two sons seem to be all he had:

they were judges in Beersheba; in the utmost border of the land, to the south, as Ramah, where Samuel dwelt and judged, was more to the north; where they were placed by their father, for the greater convenience of the people of Israel that lived southward, to bring their causes to them, as those lived more northward might bring them to him: according to Josephus w, they were placed by their father, the one in Bethel, one of the places Samuel used to go to in his circuit and judge, and the other at Beersheba. But some, as Junius and others, think it should be rendered, "unto Beersheba"; and so takes in its opposite, Dan, which lay at the utmost border of the land northward; hence the phrase, "from Dan to Beersheba"; and that the one was settled at Dan for the sake of the northern part of the land, and the other at Beersheba, for the sake of the southern: or rather these sons of Samuel placed themselves at Beersheba; which was an ill judged thing, to be both in one place, and which must give the people of Israel a great deal of trouble, and put them to a large expense to come from all quarters thither, to have their causes tried; but that is not the worst.

Gill: 1Sa 8:3 - -- And his sons walked not in his ways,.... The meaning of which is not that they did not go the circuit he did, which is too low a sense of the words so...

And his sons walked not in his ways,.... The meaning of which is not that they did not go the circuit he did, which is too low a sense of the words some Jewish writers give; but they did not walk in the fear of God, in the paths of religion and righteousness, truth and holiness; they neither served God, nor did justice to men, as Samuel had done:

but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment; indulged to covetousness, sought to get riches at any rate, took bribes, which blind the eyes of judges; and so passed wrong judgment, and gave the cause to those that gave the largest gifts, right or wrong.

Gill: 1Sa 8:4 - -- Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together,.... At some place of rendezvous appointed; these were the heads of the tribes, and fathers...

Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together,.... At some place of rendezvous appointed; these were the heads of the tribes, and fathers of the houses and families of Israel, the principal persons of age and authority:

and came to Samuel unto Ramah; the place of his nativity and abode, and where he now dwelt, and judged Israel; they went in a very respectable body with an address to him.

Gill: 1Sa 8:5 - -- And said unto him, behold, thou art old,.... See 1Sa 8:1, his age was no reproach to him, nor was it becoming them to upbraid him with it; nor was it ...

And said unto him, behold, thou art old,.... See 1Sa 8:1, his age was no reproach to him, nor was it becoming them to upbraid him with it; nor was it a reason why he should be removed from his office, for it did not disqualify him for it; but rather, having gained by age experience, was more fit for it, though he might not be able to ride his circuits as formerly:

and thy sons walk not in thy ways; whom he had made judges; this is a better reason than the former for what is after requested; and had they only besought them to remove him from their places, and rested content with that, it would have been well enough; but what they were solicitous for, and always had an inclination to, and now thought a proper opportunity offered of obtaining it, was what follows:

now make us a king to judge us like all the nations; to rule over them as sole monarch; to go before them in battle as their general, as well as to administer justice to them, by hearing and trying causes as their judge; which only they mention to cover their views, and make their motion more acceptable to Samuel; what they were desirous of was to have a king appearing in pomp and splendour, wearing a crown of gold, clothed in royal apparel, with a sceptre in his hand, dwelling in a stately palace, keeping a splendid court, and attended with a grand retinue, as the rest of the nations about them had had for a long time. The first kings we read of were in the times of Abraham, but after it became common for nations to have kings over them, and particularly the neighbours of Israel, as Edom, Moab, Ammon, &c. and Cicero says x, all the ancient nations had their kings, to whom they were obedient: Israel had God for their King in a peculiar manner other nations had not, and stood in no need of any other; and happy it would have been for them if they had been content therewith, and not sought after another: however, they were so modest, and paid such deference to Samuel, as to desire him to make or appoint one for them.

Gill: 1Sa 8:6 - -- But the thing displeased Samuel,.... Not that they called him an old man, and suggested that he was incapacitated for his office, nor for observing th...

But the thing displeased Samuel,.... Not that they called him an old man, and suggested that he was incapacitated for his office, nor for observing the unbecoming walk of his sons, but for what follows:

when they said, give us a king to judge us; what displeased him was, that they were for changing their form of government, not only to remove it from him, and his sons, but from the Lord himself, who was king over them; the ill consequences of which, many of them at least, he easily foresaw, and which gave him great uneasiness, both on account of the glory of God, and their own good; insomuch, as Josephus y says, he could neither eat nor sleep, but watched all night, and spent it in prayer, as follows:

and Samuel prayed unto the Lord; to know his mind and will, and what answer he should return unto them.

Gill: 1Sa 8:7 - -- And the Lord said unto Samuel,.... He appeared to him in a vision or dream, and by an articulate voice delivered to him what follows: hearken unto ...

And the Lord said unto Samuel,.... He appeared to him in a vision or dream, and by an articulate voice delivered to him what follows:

hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee; not as approving of what they said, but permitting and allowing what they asked, as a punishment of them for their disloyalty and ingratitude, and as resenting their ill behaviour to him; for it was in anger he assented to their request, Hos 13:11.

for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me that I should not reign over them; most interpreters supply the word "only", as if the sense was, that they had not only rejected Samuel from judging them, but the Lord also from reigning over them; and which is spoken to comfort Samuel, and to alleviate the pressure on his mind for the ill treatment he had met with; for since they had served the Lord after this manner, it was no wonder he should be ill used, and might bear it with great patience: but I see no reason why the word may not be taken absolutely, that they had not rejected Samuel from all share in the government, at least from judging the people; for so he continued all the days of his life, even after they had a king over them; but they entirely rejected the sole and peculiar government of God over them.

Gill: 1Sa 8:8 - -- According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them out of Egypt,.... This was no new thing; all that they had done sinc...

According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them out of Egypt,.... This was no new thing; all that they had done since they were wonderfully favoured of God, as to be brought out of Egyptian bondage, was all of a piece with this; one continued series of ingratitude, of rebellion against God, and against his servants, that he employed under him, as Moses, Aaron, &c.

even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods; this is what this people were always addicted to, to east off the worship and service of God, and go into idolatry:

so do they also unto thee; acted the like ungrateful part to him for all the service he had done them, from his childhood to that time; wherefore, as the disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord, if such things as before observed were done to Jehovah himself, Samuel could not expect to meet with better treatment, other than he had, see Mat 10:24.

Gill: 1Sa 8:9 - -- Now therefore hearken unto their voice,.... And appoint them a king as they desire: howbeit, yet protest solemnly unto them; not against the thing ...

Now therefore hearken unto their voice,.... And appoint them a king as they desire:

howbeit, yet protest solemnly unto them; not against the thing itself, which was permitted, but against the evil of their request, as to the unseasonable time, ill manner, and unjustifiable reason, in and for which it was made; the Lord would have Samuel lay before them their evil in requesting it, and the evils that would follow upon it to them, and faithfully represent them to them, that they might be left without excuse, and have none to blame but themselves when they, should come upon them:

and show them the manner of the king that shall reign over them: or the right or judgment z; not a legal right or form of government, but an assumed, arbitrary, and despotic power, such as the kings of the east exercised over their subjects, a king like whom the Israelites desired to have; namely, what unbounded liberties he would take with them, what slaves he would make of them, and what of their property he would take to himself at pleasure, as is after related. The word signifies, not a divine law, according to which the king should govern, but a custom, or a custom he would introduce, as the word is rendered, 1Sa 2:13 and is different from that in 1Sa 10:25.

Gill: 1Sa 8:10 - -- And Samuel told all the words of the Lord unto them,.... How he considered this request of theirs as a rejection of him as their king, and that it was...

And Samuel told all the words of the Lord unto them,.... How he considered this request of theirs as a rejection of him as their king, and that it was acting the same ungrateful part they had always done; and since they were so importunate to have it granted, it should be done; but that he was ordered to lay before them all the inconveniences that would attend it, and the evils that would follow upon it unto them:

that asked of him a king; which is observed, not to distinguish a part of them from the rest; for this was an united request of the people.

Gill: 1Sa 8:11 - -- And he said, this will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you,.... Not in which he ought to proceed, but what he will do: and this not th...

And he said, this will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you,.... Not in which he ought to proceed, but what he will do: and this not the manner of one king, or of the first only, but of all of them, more or less; of kings in general, who are commonly inclined to arbitrary power. So Aristotle a in opposition to theocracy, describes a full and absolute kingdom, as he calls it, when a king does all things according to his will: and observes, that he that would have the mind or reason preside, would have God and the laws rule; but he that would have a man to reign, adds also a lust, or one led by his own lust: so it follows:

he will take your sons, and appoint them for himself; for his own use and service, to wait upon him, to be his pages, or grooms, or guards:

for his chariots; to take care of them, and drive them, though not without paying them for it; yet this being but a mean and servile employment, and what they should be obliged to, whether they would or no, is observed to show the tyranny and bondage to which they would be subject, when their sons otherwise might be free men, and possessed of estates and carriages of their own:

and to be his horsemen; or rather "for his horses", to take care of them, and go out along with him, and attend his person, whether when going to war, or on pleasure:

and some shall run before his chariots; be his running footmen, being swift of foot, and trained up for that service; some are naturally swift, as Asahel was 2Sa 2:18. Pliny b speaks of some swifter than horses; and of the swiftness of some he elsewhere gives c many surprising instances. It seems as if it was usual to have fifty such men to run before them, see 2Sa 15:1.

Gill: 1Sa 8:12 - -- And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties,.... Which though posts of honour, yet when they are not matter of choice, ...

And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties,.... Which though posts of honour, yet when they are not matter of choice, and especially being precarious, and depending on the arbitrary will of a prince, are not eligible, and less so to persons that choose another sort of life:

and will set them to ear his ground; to plough it; not the same persons made captains of thousands and fifties, but others, whom he will employ in tilling and manuring his fields, and oblige them to it:

and to reap his harvest; when it is ripe, and gather it in, and bring it home into his barns and garners:

and to make his instruments of war: as swords, spears, bows and arrows, most commonly used in those times:

and instruments of chariots; which seem to design chariots of war, and the iron spikes and scythes which were joined to them, to cut down the foot soldiers, when driven among them in battle, which are commonly called chariots of iron; see Jos 17:16.

Gill: 1Sa 8:13 - -- And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries,.... Such as deal in spices, and mix them, and make them up in various forms very agreeable to t...

And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries,.... Such as deal in spices, and mix them, and make them up in various forms very agreeable to the taste. Men are commonly in our countries and times employed in such arts, but it seems this was the business of women in those times and places. Some versions d render it "unguentariae", makers or sellers of ointments, and such there were in some nations e, such was Lydia in Juvenal f:

and to be cooks; to dress all sorts of food, especially what were boiled, as the word signifies: and to be bakers; to make and bake bread, which though with us is the work of men, yet in the eastern countries was usually done by women; See Gill on Lev 26:26.

Gill: 1Sa 8:14 - -- And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards,.... Which includes the whole increase of their land, their corn, and wine, and ...

And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards,.... Which includes the whole increase of their land, their corn, and wine, and oil; and it is these, the fruits of their fields, vineyards, and oliveyards, which are here meant; for otherwise kings might not, and did not by their absolute authority, take away those from their subjects; otherwise Ahab would have taken away Naboth's vineyard at once, nor would Jezebel have needed to have taken such a method she did, to put Ahab into the possession of it:

even the best of them, and give them to his servants; for their service; and which some restrain to times of war, when necessity obliged to use such methods.

Gill: 1Sa 8:15 - -- And he will take the tenth of your seed,.... When grown up and ripe, as their wheat and barley: and of your vineyards; the tenth of the grapes they...

And he will take the tenth of your seed,.... When grown up and ripe, as their wheat and barley:

and of your vineyards; the tenth of the grapes they should produce:

and give to his officers, and to his servants; for the support and maintenance of them; and to pay this, besides the tithes of the priests and Levites, would make it very burdensome to them; and this was no other than what kings of other nations usually had, the like to whom they were desirous of having, and therefore must expect that they would insist upon the privileges and revenues that others had. In Babylon, as Aristotle g relates, there was an ancient law which required the tenth of whatever was imported for the public revenue, which was revived in the times of Alexander by Antimenes the Rhodian. In Arabia Felix was an island abounding with frankincense and myrrh, and various spices, the tenth of the fruits of which the king always had, as Diodorus Siculus h reports, as in the Apocrypha:"And as for other things that belong unto us, of the tithes and customs pertaining unto us, as also the saltpits, and the crown taxes, which are due unto us, we discharge them of them all for their relief.'' (1 Maccabees 11:35)

Gill: 1Sa 8:16 - -- And he will take your manservants, and your maidservants,.... Into his own family, for his own use and service, if he wants them, or likes them better...

And he will take your manservants, and your maidservants,.... Into his own family, for his own use and service, if he wants them, or likes them better than what he has:

and your goodliest young men: that are tall and lusty, comely and beautiful, of a proper stature and good aspect; and such in all countries used to be chosen for officers in courts, or attendants there; and so the Turks to this day pitch upon young men to attend on great personages, who are of a comely form, have admirable features, and are well shaped; see Gill on Dan 1:4,

and your asses, and put them to his work; employ them in ploughing his fields, drawing his carriages, or bearing his burdens; and so any other cattle that would serve the same purposes, as oxen, camels, &c.

Gill: 1Sa 8:17 - -- He will take the tenth of your sheep,.... As well as of their seed and vineyards; and not the tithe of their flocks only, but of their herds also, whi...

He will take the tenth of your sheep,.... As well as of their seed and vineyards; and not the tithe of their flocks only, but of their herds also, which are here included, as Kimchi observes:

and ye shall be his servants: made slaves of by him, even as the Canaanitish servants were, according to Abarbinel; though others interpret it more mildly of their being obliged to pay tribute and taxes, for the support of his government.

Gill: 1Sa 8:18 - -- And ye shall cry out in that day, because of your king,.... His power and pride, his oppression and tyranny, his heavy exactions, and intolerable yoke...

And ye shall cry out in that day, because of your king,.... His power and pride, his oppression and tyranny, his heavy exactions, and intolerable yoke, and yet not be able to free themselves from them; all that they could do would be only to cry out under them as grievously distressed, and not knowing how to help themselves; and which would be the more aggravated, because they brought all this upon themselves, as it follows:

which ye shall have chosen you; for though the choice of a king for them, at a proper time, God had reserved to himself, yet in later times, as is here suggested, they would choose for themselves, and did, see Hos 8:4 besides, to have a king in general was at first their own choice, though the particular person was by the designation of the Lord:

and the Lord will not hear you in that day; will not regard them, have no compassion on them, suffer them to remain under their oppressions, and not deliver them out of them; because they rejected him from being their King, and put themselves out of his protection, into the hands of another, and therefore it was just to leave them to their own choice.

Gill: 1Sa 8:19 - -- Nevertheless, the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel,.... The advice he gave not to think of a king, but be content with the government under ...

Nevertheless, the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel,.... The advice he gave not to think of a king, but be content with the government under which they were; but to this they would not hearken, notwithstanding all the inconveniences that would attend such a change:

and they said, nay, but we will have a king over us; they would not believe what Samuel said concerning a king, even though they were the words of the Lord he delivered to them; and though they knew Samuel was a prophet, and spoke by a spirit of prophecy, and none of his words had ever fallen to the ground: but such was their stubbornness and obstinacy, and so set upon having a king, that one they would have, let them suffer what hardships, or be at what expenses they might; at all events, and against all remonstrances, they were determined to have one.

Gill: 1Sa 8:20 - -- That we also may be like all the nations,.... Even though they were slaves, like them; a king they would have, as they had, such was their stupidity. ...

That we also may be like all the nations,.... Even though they were slaves, like them; a king they would have, as they had, such was their stupidity. It was their greatest honour and glory, as well as happiness, not to be like other nations; as in their religion, laws, and liberties, so in their form of government; God being their King in such a peculiar sense as he was not of others, but with this they could not be content:

and that our king may judge us; hear their causes, administer justice and judgment to them, protect their persons and properties, and rule them according to the civil laws that were given them:

and go out before us, and fight our battles; which Samuel their present judge did not, and to which perhaps they may have some respect; but then he gained more for them by his prayers, than a king or general would by his military skill or prowess, see 1Sa 7:10, and it is very remarkable, and what is observed by some, that their first king died in a battle. What made them so pressing and importunate to have a king at, this time, and not defer it to another, it is very probable was, that they understood that Nahash, king of the children of Ammon, was preparing to attack them, and therefore they were desirous to have a king also to go out before them, and meet him, and give him battle, 1Sa 12:12.

Gill: 1Sa 8:21 - -- And Samuel heard all the words of the people,.... Patiently, and without interruption; attentively heard them, took notice of them, laid them up in hi...

And Samuel heard all the words of the people,.... Patiently, and without interruption; attentively heard them, took notice of them, laid them up in his memory; but gave no answer to them, but reported them to the Lord, as in the next clause:

and he rehearsed them in the ears of the Lord; privately, in a free and familiar manner, with great exactness, as they were expressed; this he did, not before the people publicly, but in secret prayer, seeking for direction what he should further do, or what answer he should return to them.

Gill: 1Sa 8:22 - -- And the Lord said to Samuel,.... an audible voice, or by an impulse upon his mind: hearken unto their voice, and make them a king; since they will ...

And the Lord said to Samuel,.... an audible voice, or by an impulse upon his mind:

hearken unto their voice, and make them a king; since they will have a king, let them have one, and let them know that they shall have one:

and Samuel said unto the men of Israel: the elders of the people that addressed him on this occasion, 1Sa 8:4.

go ye every man unto his city; signifying they might return in peace, and be assured their request would be granted, and a king would be appointed in a short time, and which they might report to their fellow citizens; and they might expect to hear from him quickly, as soon as he had instructions from the Lord who should be their king, which right he had reserved to himself; and therefore in the mean while they might rest contented that they would have one in a little time.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:3 Heb “and they turned aside after unjust gain and took bribes and perverted justice.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:5 Heb “judge” (also in v. 6).

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:6 Heb “when.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:7 Heb “Listen to the voice of the people, to all which they say to you.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:8 Heb “according to all the deeds which they have done.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:9 Heb “and tell them the manner of the king who will rule over them.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:12 The numbers of v. 12 are confused in the Greek and Syriac versions. For “fifties” the LXX has “hundreds.” The Syriac Peshitta ...

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:15 Or “eunuchs” (so NAB); NIV “officials”; KJV, NASB, NRSV, NLT “officers.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:18 The LXX adds “because you have chosen for yourselves a king.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:19 Heb “and the people refused to listen to the voice of Samuel.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:20 Heb “and go out before us.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:21 Heb “and Samuel heard all the words of the people and he spoke them into the ears of the Lord.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:22 Heb “listen to their voice.”

Geneva Bible: 1Sa 8:1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he ( a ) made his sons judges over Israel. ( a ) Because he was not able to bear the charge.

Geneva Bible: 1Sa 8:2 Now the name of his firstborn was ( b ) Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: [they were] judges in Beersheba. ( b ) Who was also called Vashni, (...

Geneva Bible: 1Sa 8:4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto ( c ) Ramah, ( c ) For there his house was, (1Sa 7:17).

Geneva Bible: 1Sa 8:6 But the thing ( d ) displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD. ( d ) Because they were not conte...

Geneva Bible: 1Sa 8:9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet ( e ) protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them....

Geneva Bible: 1Sa 8:11 And he said, This will be the ( f ) manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint [them] for himself, for his char...

Geneva Bible: 1Sa 8:18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not ( g ) hear you in that day. ( g ) Because...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 1Sa 8:1-22 - --1 By occasion of the ill government of Samuel's sons, the Israelites ask a king.6 Samuel praying in grief, is comforted by God.10 He tells the manner ...

Maclaren: 1Sa 8:4-20 - --1 Samuel 8:4-20 The office of judge was as little capable of transmission from father to son as that of prophet, so that Samuel's appointment of his s...

MHCC: 1Sa 8:1-3 - --It does not appear that Samuel's sons were so profane and vicious as Eli's sons; but they were corrupt judges, they turned aside after lucre. Samuel t...

MHCC: 1Sa 8:4-9 - --Samuel was displeased; he could patiently bear what reflected on himself, and his own family; but it displeased him when they said, Give us a king to ...

MHCC: 1Sa 8:10-22 - --If they would have a king to rule them, as the eastern kings ruled their subjects, they would find the yoke exceedingly heavy. Those that submit to th...

Matthew Henry: 1Sa 8:1-3 - -- Two sad things we find here, but not strange things: - 1. A good and useful man growing old and unfit for service (1Sa 8:1): Samuel was old, and c...

Matthew Henry: 1Sa 8:4-22 - -- We have here the starting of a matter perfectly new and surprising, which was the setting up of kingly government in Israel. Perhaps the thing had b...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:1-5 - -- 1Sa 8:1-2 The reason assigned for the appointment of Samuel's sons asjudges is his own advanced age. The inference which we might draw fromthis al...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:6-8 - -- Nevertheless "the thing displeased Samuel when they said," etc. Thisserves to explain הדּבר , and precludes the supposition thatSamuel's disple...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:9 - -- In order to show them wherein they were wrong, Samuel was instructed tobear witness against them, by proclaiming the right of the king who wouldrule...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:10-18 - -- In accordance with the instructions of God, Samuel told the people all thewords of Jehovah, i.e., all that God had said to him, as related in 1Sa 8:...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:19-20 - -- With such a description of the " right of the king "as this, Samuel hadpointed out to the elders the dangers connected with a monarchy in soalarming...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:21-22 - -- These words of the people were laid by Samuel before the Lord, and theLord commanded him to give the people a king. With this answer Samuelsent the ...

Constable: 1Sa 8:1--12:25 - --B. Kingship Given to Saul chs. 8-12 "Clearly these five chapters constitute a literary unit, for they ar...

Constable: 1Sa 8:1-3 - --The occasion for requesting a king 8:1-3 The people would probably not have pressed for ...

Constable: 1Sa 8:4-9 - --The reason for requesting a king 8:4-9 God had made provision for kings to rule His peop...

Constable: 1Sa 8:10-22 - --The consequences of requesting a king 8:10-22 Samuel explained what having a king simila...

Guzik: 1Sa 8:1-22 - --1 Samuel 8 - Israel Demands a King A. The people of Israel request a king. 1. (1-3) Samuel appoints his sons as judges. Now it came to pass when S...

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Commentary -- Other

Critics Ask: 1Sa 8:7 1 SAMUEL 8:7-9 —How could God condemn Israel’s request for a king when the rules for selecting a king were given by God in Deuteronomy 17 ? PR...

Critics Ask: 1Sa 8:8 1 SAMUEL 8:7-9 —How could God condemn Israel’s request for a king when the rules for selecting a king were given by God in Deuteronomy 17 ? PR...

Critics Ask: 1Sa 8:9 1 SAMUEL 8:7-9 —How could God condemn Israel’s request for a king when the rules for selecting a king were given by God in Deuteronomy 17 ? PR...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 1 Samuel (Outline) OF ELKANAH AND HIS TWO WIVES. (1Sa 1:1-8) HANNAH'S PRAYER. (1Sa 1:9-18) SAMUEL BORN. (1Sa 1:20) HANNAH'S SONG IN THANKFULNESS TO GOD. (1Sa 2:1-11) TH...

TSK: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) The First Book of SAMUEL, otherwise called " The First Book of the KINGS."

TSK: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 1Sa 8:1, By occasion of the ill government of Samuel’s sons, the Israelites ask a king; 1Sa 8:6, Samuel praying in grief, is comforted ...

Poole: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL OTHERWISE CALLED THE FIRST BOOK OF THE KINGS. THE ARGUMENT. IT is not certainly known who was the penman of this Book, or whe...

Poole: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 8 Samuel makes his sons judges over Israel; their names, and ill government, 1Sa 8:1-3 . The people ask a king: Samuel is grieved; p...

MHCC: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) In this book we have an account of Eli, and the wickedness of his sons; also of Samuel, his character and actions. Then of the advancement of Saul to ...

MHCC: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) (1Sa 8:1-3) The evil government of Samuel's sons. (1Sa 8:4-9) The Israelites ask for a king. (1Sa 8:10-22) The manner of a king.

Matthew Henry: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The First Book of Samuel This book, and that which follows it, bear the name of Samuel in the title, ...

Matthew Henry: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) Things went so very well with Israel, in the chapter before, under Samuel's administration, that, methinks, it is a pity to find him so quickly, as...

Constable: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Title First and Second Samuel were originally one book called the Book of...

Constable: 1 Samuel (Outline) Outline I. Eli and Samuel chs. 1-3 A. The change from barrenness to fertility 1:1-2:10 ...

Constable: 1 Samuel 1 Samuel Bibliography Ackroyd, Peter R. The First Book of Samuel. Cambridge Bible Commentary on the New English...

Haydock: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE FIRST BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This and the following Book are called by the Hebrews, the...

Gill: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 1 SAMUEL This book, in the Hebrew copies, is commonly called Samuel, or the Book of Samuel; in the Syriac version, the Book of Samu...

Gill: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO FIRST SAMUEL 8 This chapter relates, how that Samuel being old, and his sons behaving ill, the people desired to have a king set ov...

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