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Text -- 1 Thessalonians 2:17 (NET)

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Forced Absence from Thessalonica
2:17 But when we were separated from you, brothers and sisters, for a short time (in presence, not in affection) we became all the more fervent in our great desire to see you in person.
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Robertson: 1Th 2:17 - -- Being bereaved of you ( aporphanisthentes aph' humōn ). First aorist passive participle of the rare compound verb (aporphanizō , in Aeschylus, bu...

Being bereaved of you ( aporphanisthentes aph' humōn ).

First aorist passive participle of the rare compound verb (aporphanizō , in Aeschylus, but nowhere else in N.T.). Literally, being orphaned from you (aph' humōn , ablative case). Paul changes the figure again (trophos or mother nurse in 1Th 2:7, nēpios or babe in 1Th 2:7, patēr or father in 1Th 2:11) to orphan (orphanos ). He refers to the period of separation from them, for a short season (pros kairon hōras ) for a season of an hour. This idiom only here in N.T., but pros kairon in Luk 8:13 and pros hōran in 2Co 7:8. But it has seemed long to Paul. Precisely how long he had been gone we do not know, some months at any rate.

Robertson: 1Th 2:17 - -- In presence, not in heart ( prosōpōi ou kardiāi ). Locative case. Prosōpon , old word (pros , ops , in front of the eye, face) for face, loo...

In presence, not in heart ( prosōpōi ou kardiāi ).

Locative case. Prosōpon , old word (pros , ops , in front of the eye, face) for face, look, person. Literally, in face or person. His heart was with them, though they no longer saw his face. Heart, originally kardia , is the inner man, the seat of the affections and purposes, not always in contrast with intellect (nous ). "Out of sight, not out of mind"(Rutherford).

Robertson: 1Th 2:17 - -- Endeavoured the more exceedingly ( perissoterōs espoudasamen ). Ingressive aorist active indicative of spoudazō , old word to hasten (from spoude...

Endeavoured the more exceedingly ( perissoterōs espoudasamen ).

Ingressive aorist active indicative of spoudazō , old word to hasten (from spoudē , speudō ).

Robertson: 1Th 2:17 - -- We became zealous. Comparative adverb perissoterōs from perisson , more abundantly than before being orphaned from you.

We became zealous.

Comparative adverb perissoterōs from perisson , more abundantly than before being orphaned from you.

Robertson: 1Th 2:17 - -- Your face ( to prosōpon humōn ). Cf. his face above.

Your face ( to prosōpon humōn ).

Cf. his face above.

Robertson: 1Th 2:17 - -- With great desire ( en pollēi epithumiāi ).

With great desire ( en pollēi epithumiāi ).

Robertson: 1Th 2:17 - -- In much longing ( epithumia from epi and thumos , epithumeō , to run after, to yearn after, whether good or bad).

In much longing ( epithumia from epi and thumos , epithumeō , to run after, to yearn after, whether good or bad).

Vincent: 1Th 2:17 - -- Being taken from you ( ἀπορφανισθέντες ) N.T.o . o lxx. Rev. better, being bereaved of you . From ὀρφανός b...

Being taken from you ( ἀπορφανισθέντες )

N.T.o . o lxx. Rev. better, being bereaved of you . From ὀρφανός bereft . See Mar 12:40, Joh 14:18; Jam 1:27. The word suggests the intimate personal fellowship of the writer with his readers. The separation was like that between parents and children. Comp. 1Th 2:7, 1Th 2:8.

Vincent: 1Th 2:17 - -- For a short time ( πρὸς καιρὸν ὥρας ) N.T.o . Lit. for the season of an hour . Comp. Lat. horae momentum . St...

For a short time ( πρὸς καιρὸν ὥρας )

N.T.o . Lit. for the season of an hour . Comp. Lat. horae momentum . Stronger than the usual phrase πρὸς ὥραν for an hour: see 2Co 7:8; Gal 2:5; Phm 1:15. Comp. πρὸς καιρὸν for a season , Luk 8:13; 1Co 7:5.

Vincent: 1Th 2:17 - -- The more abundantly ( περισσοτέρως ) Rev. the more exceedingly . Paul uses this adverb very freely, and outside of his letters...

The more abundantly ( περισσοτέρως )

Rev. the more exceedingly . Paul uses this adverb very freely, and outside of his letters it appears only Heb 2:1; Heb 13:19. He is much given to the use of comparatives, and sometimes heaps them together: see Rom 8:37; 2Co 7:13; 2Co 4:17; Eph 3:20; Phi 1:23.

Wesley: 1Th 2:17 - -- In this verse we have a remarkable instance, not so much of the transient affections of holy grief, desire, or joy, as of that abiding tenderness, tha...

In this verse we have a remarkable instance, not so much of the transient affections of holy grief, desire, or joy, as of that abiding tenderness, that loving temper, which is so apparent in all St. Paul's writings, towards those he styles his children in the faith. This is the more carefully to be observed, because the passions occasionally exercising themselves, and flowing like a torrent, in the apostle, are observable to every reader; whereas it requires a nicer attention to discern those calm standing tempers, that fixed posture of his soul, from whence the others only flow out, and which more peculiarly distinguish his character.

JFB: 1Th 2:17 - -- Resumed from 1Th 2:13; in contrast to the Jews, 1Th 2:15-16.

Resumed from 1Th 2:13; in contrast to the Jews, 1Th 2:15-16.

JFB: 1Th 2:17 - -- Rather as Greek, "severed (violently, Act 17:7-10) from you," as parents bereft of their children. So "I will not leave you comfortless," Greek, "orph...

Rather as Greek, "severed (violently, Act 17:7-10) from you," as parents bereft of their children. So "I will not leave you comfortless," Greek, "orphanized" (Joh 14:18).

JFB: 1Th 2:17 - -- Literally, "for the space of an hour." "When we had been severed from you but a very short time (perhaps alluding to the suddenness of his unexpected ...

Literally, "for the space of an hour." "When we had been severed from you but a very short time (perhaps alluding to the suddenness of his unexpected departure), we the more abundantly (the shorter was our separation; for the desire of meeting again is the more vivid, the more recent has been the parting) endeavored," &c. (Compare 2Ti 1:4). He does not hereby, as many explain, anticipate a short separation from them, which would be a false anticipation; for he did not soon revisit them. The Greek past participle also forbids their view.

Clarke: 1Th 2:17 - -- Being taken from you for a short time - Through the persecution raised by the Jews, see Acts 17, he was obliged to leave Thessalonica, and yield to ...

Being taken from you for a short time - Through the persecution raised by the Jews, see Acts 17, he was obliged to leave Thessalonica, and yield to a storm that it would have been useless for him to have withstood

Clarke: 1Th 2:17 - -- Being taken from you - in presence, not in heart - The apostle had compared himself to a parent or nurse, 1Th 2:7, 1Th 2:11; and the people he consi...

Being taken from you - in presence, not in heart - The apostle had compared himself to a parent or nurse, 1Th 2:7, 1Th 2:11; and the people he considered as his most beloved children; here he represents himself as feeling what an affectionate father must feel when torn from his children; for this is the import of the word απορφανισθεντες, bereft of children, which we tamely translate being taken from you

Clarke: 1Th 2:17 - -- Endeavoured the more abundantly - His separation from them did not destroy his parental feelings, and the manner in which he was obliged to leave th...

Endeavoured the more abundantly - His separation from them did not destroy his parental feelings, and the manner in which he was obliged to leave them increased his desire to visit them as soon as possible.

Calvin: 1Th 2:17 - -- 17.But we, brethren, bereaved of you. This excuse has been appropriately added, lest the Thessalonians should think that Paul had deserted them while...

17.But we, brethren, bereaved of you. This excuse has been appropriately added, lest the Thessalonians should think that Paul had deserted them while so great an emergency demanded his presence. He has spoken of the persecutions which they endured from their own people: he, in the mean time, whose duty it was above all others to assist them, was absent. He has formerly called himself a father; now, it is not the part of a father to desert his children in the midst of such distresses. He, accordingly, obviates all suspicion of contempt and negligence, by saying, that it was from no want of inclination, but because he had not opportunity. Nor does he say simply, “I was desirous to come to you, but my way was obstructed;” but by the peculiar terms that he employs he expresses the intensity of his affection: “When,” says he, “I was bereaved of you.” 550 By the word bereaved, he declares how sad and distressing a thing it was to him to be absent from them. 551 This is followed by a fuller expression of his feeling of desire — that it was with difficulty that he could endure their absence for a short time. It is not to be wondered, if length of time should occasion weariness or sadness; but we must have a strong feeling of attachment when we find it difficult to wait even a single hour. Now, by the space of an hour, he means — a small space of time.

This is followed by a correction — that he had been separated from them in appearance, not in heart, that they may know that distance of place does not by any means lessen his attachment. At the same time, this might not less appropriately be applied to the Thessalonians, as meaning that they, on their part, had felt united in mind while absent in body; for it was of no small importance for the point in hand that he should state how fully assured he was of their affection towards him in return. He shews, however, more fully his affection, when he says that he endeavored the more abundantly; for he means that his affection was so far from being diminished by his leaving them, that it had been the more inflamed. When he says, we would once and again, he declares that it was not a sudden heat, that quickly cooled, (as we see sometimes happen,) but that he had been steadfast in this purpose, 552 inasmuch as he sought various opportunities.

TSK: 1Th 2:17 - -- in presence : 2Ki 5:26; Act 17:10; 1Co 5:3; Col 2:5 endeavoured : 1Th 3:6, 1Th 3:10,1Th 3:11; Gen 31:30, Gen 45:28, Gen 48:11; 2Sa 13:39; Psa 63:1; Lu...

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Barnes: 1Th 2:17 - -- But we, brethren, being taken from you - There is more implied in the Greek word here rendered, "being taken from you "- ἀπορφανισ...

But we, brethren, being taken from you - There is more implied in the Greek word here rendered, "being taken from you "- ἀπορφανισθέντες aporphanisthentes - than appears from our translation. It properly has relation to the condition of an orphan (compare notes on Joh 14:18), or one who is bereaved of parents, or one who is bereaved of parents\}. Then it is used in a more general sense, denoting to be bereaved of; and in this place it does not mean merely that he was "taken from them,"but there is included the idea that it was like a painful bereavement. It was such a state as that of one who had lost a parent. No word, perhaps, could have expressed stranger attachment for them.

For a short time - Greek, "For the time of an hour;"that is, for a brief period. The meaning is, that when he left them he supposed it would be only for a short time. The fact seems to have been Act 17:10, that it was supposed, when Paul was sent to Berea, that things would soon be in such a state that he could safely return to Thessalonica. He was "sent"there by those who thought it was necessary for the safety of some of his friends at Thessalonica, and he evidently purposed to return as soon as it could properly be done. It had, in fact, however, turned out to be a long and painful absence.

In presence, not in heart - My heart was still with you. This is an elegant and touching expression, which we still use to denote affection for an absent friend.

Endeavoured the more abundantly to see your face - Made every endeavor possible. It was from no want of affection that I have not done it, but from causes beyond my control.

With great desire - Compare the notes at Luk 22:15.

Poole: 1Th 2:17 - -- The apostle here makes his apology, for his so soon departing from them, and his continued absence. They were under great sufferings for receiving t...

The apostle here makes his apology, for his so soon departing from them, and his continued absence. They were under great sufferings for receiving the gospel he had preached, and for him therefore to leave them so soon as he did, (as appears in the story, Act 17:1-34 ), and not presently to return, might discourage their hearts and make them question his love.

1. For his leaving them, he tells them it was not voluntary, but forced by the persecution of the Jews, he being sent away in the night by the brethren to Berea, Act 17:10 ; and therefore he calls it a taking away, rather than a going away from them. And (as the Greek word imports) it was:

2. A thing grievous to him, as children that are bereft of father and mother, and left orphans, are greatly troubled. And he was afflicted as a father bereft of children; so were these Thessalonians to him, having begotten them to Christ by the gospel.

3. It was but

for a short time for the time of an hour; when he left them, he intended but a short stay from them, only to avoid the present storm: others think he means by the words his sudden leaving them before he took solemn leave of them.

4. He left them in presence , quoad faciem, as to outward sight, not in heart: the proper genius of true lovers, who are present with each other in soul when separated in body.

5. He tells them of his endeavours to see their face; and that the more abundantly, because he came away so suddenly from them. And lastly, he did this with great desire, his endeavours herein were acted with great affection.

Haydock: 1Th 2:17 - -- Being taken away from [5] you. Literally, become desolate, because of our separation from you. (Witham) =============================== [B...

Being taken away from [5] you. Literally, become desolate, because of our separation from you. (Witham)

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Desolati a vobis, Greek: aporphanisthentes.

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Gill: 1Th 2:17 - -- But we, brethren, being taken from you,.... Here more properly should begin the third chapter, in which the apostle having before observed the manner ...

But we, brethren, being taken from you,.... Here more properly should begin the third chapter, in which the apostle having before observed the manner of his entrance among these people, the nature of his ministry, the reception the word of God met with among them, and the powerful effect it had upon them, insomuch that they patiently and cheerfully bore persecution for the sake of it; he excuses his not having been with them again as yet, which he knew was proper and necessary, as he was their apostle and spiritual father; and expresses an affectionate concern at his parting with them in the manner he did, which was not his own choice and voluntary act, but was obliged to it, being hurried away at once, at an unawares in the night, by reason of the uproar made in the city by the baser sort of people, instigated by the unbelieving Jews; so that he and his fellow ministers had not the opportunity of taking their leave of them, as they would have done: hence he says,

we being taken from you; they were, as it were, passive in it; they were forced away on a sudden, they did not go of themselves; the word used is very uncommon and emphatical, and may be literally rendered, "we being orphanized from you"; which represents this parting to be like the separation made by death, between parents and children; when either parents are deprived of their children, or children of their parents, and are left orphans or fatherless; and just in such a destitute and desolate condition were the apostle and his companions in, in their account; nor need it to be wondered at, when they are before compared to a nursing mother and a tender father, as they were to these their spiritual children: and he further observes, that this removal from them, was

for a short time, or "for the time of an hour"; which may either denote the suddenness of it, being as it were at an hour's warning, having no more notice of it than for the space of an hour; or it may express the great affection he and his fellow ministers had for them, insomuch that they could not bear an absence from them, though but for an hour; or it may be said by way of comfort, that this parting was but for a short time, and that in a little while they might hope to see them again; and if not in this life, yet in the future state, when they should meet and never part more, and which would be but in a short time at longest: moreover, this separation was only

in presence; in person, in face, in sight, in body, it was but a corporeal one: not in heart; the apostle's heart was with them, as much as if present; they were always in his mind, and remembered by him, at the throne; he had as it were the images of them continually before him, as parents have of their children when at a distance from them; his heart was after them, and his affections moved strongly towards them: and the effect this distance had on him, and those that were with him, was this, that they

endeavoured the more abundantly, he observes,

to see your face with great desire; it made them but the more desirous of seeing them face to face again, and put them upon attempting with more abundant earnestness and diligence to come and see them.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 1Th 2:17 Grk “to see your face.”

Geneva Bible: 1Th 2:17 ( 15 ) But we, brethren, ( m ) being taken from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavoured the more abundantly to see your face with ...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 1Th 2:1-20 - --1 In what manner the gospel was brought and preached to the Thessalonians, and in what sort also they received it.18 A reason is rendered both why Pau...

MHCC: 1Th 2:17-20 - --This world is not a place where we are to be always, or long together. In heaven holy souls shall meet, and never part more. And though the apostle co...

Matthew Henry: 1Th 2:17-20 - -- In these words the apostle apologizes for his absence. Here observe, 1. He tells them they were involuntarily forced from them: We, brethren, were ...

Barclay: 1Th 2:17-20 - --First Thessalonians has been called "a classic of friendship," and here is a passage where Paul's deep affection for his friends breathes through hi...

Constable: 1Th 2:17--3:6 - --1. Desire to see them again 2:17-3:5 In this pericope Paul expressed his sincere desire to retur...

Constable: 1Th 2:17-20 - --Paul's plan 2:17-20 2:17-18 Paul and his companions had to leave Thessalonica prematurely, and for Paul the separation was an especially sorrowful one...

College: 1Th 2:1-20 - --1 THESSALONIANS 2 III. PAUL'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE THESSALONIAN CHURCH (2:1-3:13) A. PAUL'S BEHAVIOR IN THESSALONICA (2:1-12) Still focusing on the...

McGarvey: 1Th 2:17 - --But we, brethren, being bereaved of you for a short season [about six months], in presence not in heart [Col 2:5], endeavored the more exceedingly to ...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) First Thessalonians From Corinth a.d. 50-51 By Way of Introduction We cannot say that this is Paul’s first letter to a church, for in 2Th_2:2 h...

JFB: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) The AUTHENTICITY of this Epistle is attested by IRENÆUS [Against Heresies, 5.6.1], quoting 1Th 5:23; CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA [The Instructor, 1.88], qu...

JFB: 1 Thessalonians (Outline) ADDRESS: SALUTATION: HIS PRAYERFUL THANKSGIVING FOR THEIR FAITH, HOPE, AND LOVE. THEIR FIRST RECEPTION OF THE GOSPEL, AND THEIR GOOD INFLUENCE ON ALL...

TSK: 1 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 1Th 2:1, In what manner the gospel was brought and preached to the Thessalonians, and in what sort also they received it; 1Th 2:18, A rea...

Poole: 1 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) THESSALONIANS CHAPTER 2

MHCC: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) This epistle is generally considered to have been the first of those written by St. Paul. The occasion seems to have been the good report of the stedf...

MHCC: 1 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) (1Th 2:1-12) The apostle reminds the Thessalonians of his preaching and behaviour. (1Th 2:13-16) And of their receiving the gospel as the word of God...

Matthew Henry: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The First Epistle of st. Paul to the Thessalonians Thessalonica was formerly the metropolis of Macedoni...

Matthew Henry: 1 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) In this chapter the apostle puts the Thessalonians in mind of the manner of his preaching among them (1Th 2:1-6). Then of the manner of his convers...

Barclay: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) A GENERAL INTRODUCTION TO THE LETTERS OF PAUL The Letters Of Paul There is no more interesting body of documents in the New Testament than the letter...

Barclay: 1 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) Paul On His Defense (1Th_2:1-12) The Sins Of The Jews (1Th_2:13-16) Our Glory And Our Joy (1Th_2:17-20)

Constable: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) Introduction Historical background Thessalonica was an important city. Cassander, the ...

Constable: 1 Thessalonians (Outline)

Constable: 1 Thessalonians 1 Thessalonians Bibliography Askwith, E. H. "I' and We' in the Thesalonian Epistles." Expositor. Series 8:1 (19...

Haydock: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) THE FIRST EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL, THE APOSTLE, TO THE THESSALONIANS. INTRODUCTION. St. Paul having preached with success at Thessalonica, the chi...

Gill: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 1 THESSALONIANS Thessalonica was a very large, populous, and flourishing city, it was "liberae conditionis", as Pliny says a, a fre...

Gill: 1 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 1 THESSALONIANS 2 The apostle in this chapter gives a further account of his ministry among the Thessalonians, of the nature, manne...

College: 1 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) FOREWORD This commentary has been produced through a full schedule of college and seminary teaching and church-based ministry. In the current climate...

College: 1 Thessalonians (Outline) OUTLINE I. GREETING - 1:1 II. THANKSGIVING - 1:2-10 A. The Initial Thanksgiving - 1:2-5 1. Paul's Constant Prayers for the Readers - 1:2 ...

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