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Text -- 2 Peter 3:8 (NET)
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Robertson -> 2Pe 3:8
Robertson: 2Pe 3:8 - -- Forget not this one thing ( hen touto mē lanthanetō humas ).
Rather, "let not this one thing escape you."For lanthanetō (present active imper...
Forget not this one thing (
Rather, "let not this one thing escape you."For
Whatever they are.
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Wesley: 2Pe 3:8 - -- Which casts much light on the point in hand. That one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day - Moses had said, Psa ...
Which casts much light on the point in hand. That one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day - Moses had said, Psa 90:4, "A thousand years in thy sight are as one day;" which St. Peter applies with regard to the last day, so as to denote both his eternity, whereby he exceeds all measure of time in his essence and in his operation; his knowledge, to which all things past or to come are present every moment; his power, which needs no long delay, in order to bring its work to perfection; and his longsuffering, which excludes all impatience of expectation, and desire of making haste.
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Wesley: 2Pe 3:8 - -- That is, in one day, in one moment he can do the work of a thousand years. Therefore he "is not slow:" he is always equally ready to fulfil his promis...
That is, in one day, in one moment he can do the work of a thousand years. Therefore he "is not slow:" he is always equally ready to fulfil his promise.
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Wesley: 2Pe 3:8 - -- That is, no delay is long to God. A thousand years are as one day to the eternal God. Therefore "he is longsuffering:" he gives us space for repentanc...
That is, no delay is long to God. A thousand years are as one day to the eternal God. Therefore "he is longsuffering:" he gives us space for repentance, without any inconvenience to himself. In a word, with God time passes neither slower nor swifter than is suitable to him and his economy; nor can there be any reason why it should be necessary for him either to delay or hasten the end of all things. How can we comprehend this? If we could comprehend it, St. Peter needed not to have added, with the Lord.
JFB: 2Pe 3:8 - -- As those scoffers are (2Pe 3:5). Besides the refutation of them (2Pe 3:5-7) drawn from the history of the deluge, here he adds another (addressed more...
As those scoffers are (2Pe 3:5). Besides the refutation of them (2Pe 3:5-7) drawn from the history of the deluge, here he adds another (addressed more to believers than to the mockers): God's delay in fulfilling His promise is not, like men's delays, owing to inability or fickleness in keeping His word, but through "long-suffering."
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JFB: 2Pe 3:8 - -- (Psa 90:4): Moses there says, Thy eternity, knowing no distinction between a thousand years and a day, is the refuge of us creatures of a day. Peter ...
(Psa 90:4): Moses there says, Thy eternity, knowing no distinction between a thousand years and a day, is the refuge of us creatures of a day. Peter views God's eternity in relation to the last day: that day seems to us, short-lived beings, long in coming, but with the Lord the interval is irrespective of the idea of long or short. His eternity exceeds all measures of time: to His divine knowledge all future things are present: His power requires not long delays for the performance of His work: His long-suffering excludes all impatient expectation and eager haste, such as we men feel. He is equally blessed in one day and in a thousand years. He can do the work of a thousand years in one day: so in 2Pe 3:9 it is said, "He is not slack," that is, "slow": He has always the power to fulfil His "promise."
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JFB: 2Pe 3:8 - -- No delay which occurs is long to God: as to a man of countless riches, a thousand guineas are as a single penny. God's œonologe (eternal-ages measure...
No delay which occurs is long to God: as to a man of countless riches, a thousand guineas are as a single penny. God's œonologe (eternal-ages measurer) differs wholly from man's horologe (hour-glass). His gnomon (dial-pointer) shows all the hours at once in the greatest activity and in perfect repose. To Him the hours pass away, neither more slowly, nor more quickly, than befits His economy. There is nothing to make Him need either to hasten or delay the end. The words, "with the Lord" (Psa 90:4, "In Thy sight"), silence all man's objections on the ground of his incapability of understanding this [BENGEL].
Clarke: 2Pe 3:8 - -- Be not ignorant - Though they are wilfully ignorant, neglect not ye the means of instruction
Be not ignorant - Though they are wilfully ignorant, neglect not ye the means of instruction
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Clarke: 2Pe 3:8 - -- One day is with the Lord as a thousand years - That is: All time is as nothing before him, because in the presence as in the nature of God all is et...
One day is with the Lord as a thousand years - That is: All time is as nothing before him, because in the presence as in the nature of God all is eternity; therefore nothing is long, nothing short, before him; no lapse of ages impairs his purposes, nor need he wait to find convenience to execute those purposes. And when the longest period of time has passed by, it is but as a moment or indivisible point in comparison of eternity. This thought is well expressed by Plutarch, Consol. ad Apoll.: "If we compare the time of life with eternity, we shall find no difference between long and short.
Calvin -> 2Pe 3:8
Calvin: 2Pe 3:8 - -- 8.But be not ignorant of this one thing He now turns to speak to the godly; and he reminds them that when the coming of Christ is the subject, they w...
8.But be not ignorant of this one thing He now turns to speak to the godly; and he reminds them that when the coming of Christ is the subject, they were to raise upwards their eyes, for by so doing, they would not limit, by their unreasonable wishes, the time appointed by the Lord. For waiting seems very long on this account, because we have our eyes fixed on the shortness of the present life, and we also increase weariness by computing days, hours, and minutes. But when the eternity of God's kingdom comes to our minds, many ages vanish away like so many moments.
This then is what the Apostle calls our attention to, so that we may know that the day of resurrection does not depend on the present flow of time, but on the hidden purpose of God, as though he had said, “Men wish to anticipate God for this reason, because they measure time according to the judgment of their own flesh; and they are by nature inclined to impatience, so that celerity is even delay to them: do ye then ascend in your minds to heaven, and thus time will be to you neither long nor short.”
Defender -> 2Pe 3:8
Defender: 2Pe 3:8 - -- This verse has been widely misinterpreted as supporting the day/age theory of creation in Genesis 1. In context, however, it has nothing to do with cr...
This verse has been widely misinterpreted as supporting the day/age theory of creation in Genesis 1. In context, however, it has nothing to do with creation week, but rather with the last-days conflict between evolutionary uniformitarianism and Biblical-creationist catastrophism (2Pe 3:3-6). In effect, Peter is not saying that one day means a thousand years but rather that "one day is with the Lord like a thousand years." That is, God's judgment on a wicked world will do as much geological work in one day as could be accomplished by uniform natural processes in a thousand years. It is even intriguing (though probably meaningless) to note that two billion years (which is about the current geological estimate for the time required to deposit the earth's sedimentary rocks, would correspond roughly to six thousand years of Biblical history (during which the earth's sediments have actually been laid down, most of them at the time of the Flood) if those years each represented three hundred sixty-five thousand years (at one thousand years per day)."
TSK -> 2Pe 3:8
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Barnes -> 2Pe 3:8
Barnes: 2Pe 3:8 - -- But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years - This 2Pe 3:8-9 is the second consideration...
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years - This 2Pe 3:8-9 is the second consideration by which the apostle meets the objection of scoffers against the doctrine of the second coming of the Saviour. The objection was, that much time, and perhaps the time which had been supposed to be set for his coming, had passed away, and still all things remained as they were. The reply of the apostle is, that no argument could be drawn from this, for that which may seem to be a long time to us is a brief period with God. In the infinity of his own duration there is abundant time to accomplish his designs, and it can make no difference with him whether they are accomplished in one day or extended to one thousand years. Man has but a short time to live, and if he does not accomplish his purposes in a very brief period, he never will. But it is not so with God. He always lives; and we cannot therefore infer, because the execution of His purposes seems to be delayed, that they are abandoned. With Him who always lives it will be as easy to accomplish them at a far distant period as now. If it is His pleasure to accomplish them in a single day, He can do it; if He chooses that the execution shall be deferred to one thousand years, or that one thousand years shall be consumed in executing them, He has power to carry them onward through what seems, to us, to be so vast a duration. The wicked, therefore, cannot infer that they will escape because their punishment is delayed; nor should the righteous fear that the divine promises will fail because ages pass away before they are accomplished. The expression here used, that "one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, etc.,"is common in the Rabbinical writings. See Wetstein in loc. A similar thought occurs in Psa 90:4; "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night."
Poole -> 2Pe 3:8
Poole: 2Pe 3:8 - -- Be not ignorant of this one thing i.e. be sure of it: the same word is here used as 2Pe 3:5 ; and so he cautions them against the ignorance of scoffe...
Be not ignorant of this one thing i.e. be sure of it: the same word is here used as 2Pe 3:5 ; and so he cautions them against the ignorance of scoffers, and to prevent it, would have them certainly know this one thing, which is extant in the Scripture, which foretells Christ’ s coming.
That one day is with the Lord the Lord Jesus Christ, of whose coming he speaks.
As a thousand years by a synecdoche, a thousand years is put for any, even the longest revolution of time; and the sense is, that though there be great difference of time, long and short, with us, who are subject to time, and are measured by it; yet with Him who is eternal, without succession, to whom nothing is past, nothing future, but all things present, there is no difference of time, none long, none short, but a thousand years, nay, all the time that hath run out since the creation of the world, is but as a day; and we are not to judge of the Lord’ s delay in coming by our own sense, but by God’ s eternity.
PBC -> 2Pe 3:8
PBC: 2Pe 3:8 - -- Almost always you will hear 2Pe 3:9 quoted without 2Pe 3:8 or any other portion of the context of the lesson. The typical interpretation placed on 2Pe...
Almost always you will hear 2Pe 3:9 quoted without 2Pe 3:8 or any other portion of the context of the lesson. The typical interpretation placed on 2Pe 3:9 violates the context of the lesson and makes God an inept, incompetent Savior who wishes what He knows and elsewhere acknowledges that He cannot obtain. What happens to this verse when we allow it to stand in its context with relevance to the whole question of false teachers and their denial of God’s right to judge, and of the actual judgment that shall occur at the Second Coming?
A primary question related to this verse is this. Is the will of God certain or not? Peter answers this question for himself. "For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing." {1Pe 3:17} Both for the practical lesson of 1Pe 3:1-22 and for the eschatological question of 2Pe 3:1-18, we should ask the obvious and simple question. Is the will of God so? Peter clearly believes that it is so. If, in fact, God’s will is so, and is certain as Scripture clearly states, we must interpret 2Pe 3:9 so as to harmonize with this truth. We have no rational basis on which to make the will of God so in 1Pe 3:17 and then to whimsically make it tentative or not so at all in 2Pe 3:9. In a rather transparent attempt to justify a false and non-contextual interpretation of this verse some teachers allege that the word translated "willing" merely means that God wishes for all men to come to repentance. Reliable New Testament Greek dictionaries make the word an expression of will, not of wish. Kittel’s Theological Dictionary of the New Testament uses this term for the word translated "willing" in #1Pe 3:9 "...denotes a decision of will based on deliberate resolve..."[i]
Let’s walk through these two verses in their contextual setting. Peter is responding to the scoffers’ and false teachers’, denial of the Second Coming and of God’s final judgment of sinners. They scoffed at the idea because, according to them, everything continues as it always has; sunrise-sunset, people are born-people die, graveyards are filling up, but never emptying. Peter’s point is not that an event would shortly occur in Jerusalem that would refute their cynical attitude. Rather he asserts God’s timeless governance over time. He prepares his readers, including you and me, to expect a long delay before the event occurs. However, he wants us to live in full assurance of the fact; it shall occur according to God’s timeline, not ours.
What is Peter’s point in the time example of "one day as a thousand years-a thousand years as one day"? His point is simple. God is not subject to time. Therefore whether He brings the end today, or a thousand years from now is not of any consequence whatever to Him. He is the Creator of time, not subject to it.
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness."
In the mind of some God’s delay is tantamount to failure. If He hasn’t come by now, perhaps we are mistaken. Perhaps He may not be coming at all. Doubting Christians and false teachers have this much in common; both doubt the Second Coming and God’s final judgment. In terms of God’s reference to time in this lesson the whole of the gospel age has barely lasted two days so far. Rather than setting the stage for an imminent fulfilling event (as with the preterist interpretation of the Roman siege of Jerusalem in A. D. 70), Peter is actually doing precisely the opposite. He is setting our expectations that the final prophetic event in human history will actually not occur for a long time yet to come.
If we become too focused on the time element, we are liable to miss the greater truth that Peter wants us to learn; the actual event is certain, regardless of how long the delay. It will occur on schedule according to God’s plan.
Peter punctuates this thought with an explanation of the reason for the delay,
"...longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
Most commentators and Bible teachers interpret these words as an empty expression of God’s benevolence. Although all except a few universalists (people who reject the Biblical doctrine of election, and of eternal punishment, believing that every human being who ever lived or ever will live shall be saved) do not believe that all of humanity will be saved, they interpret these words to make God wish or desire what He knows will never happen. If God is not willing that any human being should perish, why did He prepare hell for the wicked? This view either makes God a benevolent ne’er-do-well or an incompetent deity who cannot perform his desires.
God’s longsuffering is focused in this lesson, "to us-ward." We read in other Scriptures of God’s longsuffering in other settings. Here His longsuffering is specifically focused on the elect, on "us." A linguistic case can be made that God’s longsuffering relates to the same people as His intent that none perish but come to repentance. In other words Peter doesn’t shift his focus from God’s longsuffering toward us to a general desire or intent that all of humanity should not perish but come to repentance. Rather the point of God’s longsuffering to "us-ward" is illustrated in the fact that He intentionally delays the Second Coming so that all of those whom He has elected should not perish. Contextually in the setting of the question of the certainty and the long delay of the Second Coming, we should view this perishing in the same light. If God had brought about the Second Coming in 500 A. D., you and I would have perished from God’s purpose in that we would never have been born. We wouldn’t exist. The word translated "come" means to "make room." In defining the various similar words and their distinction Strong offers this unique feature of the word 5562: always emphasises the idea of separation, change of place, and does not, like e.g. 4198, note the external and perceptible motion.[ii] What is the point? Why did Peter choose this word? It appears that he intended to communicate that God has allowed or made a space of time during which all of His elect shall be born into the material world, and then into the family of God, before He sounds the trumpet announcing the end. In other words there is a divine purpose in the delay. Rather than express God’s empty desire (empty because, above all beings, He who is omniscient knows the eventual outcome of all things) for the wicked and finally lost to repent, though they in fact never will do so, Peter makes reasonable sense of the delay. God has made a space of time that separates first century believers, and us as well, from the actual date of the event. There is purpose in the delay. God’s focused longsuffering allows time to continue till all of His elect, people properly designated as "us-ward" in the verse, come to repentance.
This raises our last question. Will all of God’s elect actually repent? Perhaps we can make a case that, to some extent, they shall. However, we cannot make the case without significant exceptions. God’s elect includes infants who died in their infancy. Did they come to repentance? It is fanciful and esoteric to apply the idea of repentance as we think of it to them. Peter is framing the thought of the Second Coming from our perspective, not God’s. From our perspective we can see repentance in the lives of believers who fall under God’s longsuffering conviction for sin and finally obey. As long as there is a believer who feels the sting of conviction that brings him or her to repentance, there is reason for the delay of the Second Coming. When all of God’s elect have been saved, from our observational perspective, brought to repentance, then God shall sound the trumpet and bring this world as we know it to an end. Until then, we are to patiently wait and live in the certain confidence that the Second Coming, though long delayed, is as certain as if it had already occurred. When our Lord stands before the Father at the head of the redeemed host, "Behold I and the children God hath given me," all of the elect shall appear with Him. None shall be lost for any reason. Celebrate the day as you wait its certain coming.
[i] Theological dictionary of the New Testament. 1964-c1976. Vols. 5-9 edited by Gerhard Friedrich. Vol. 10 compiled by Ronald Pitkin. (G. Kittel, G. W. Bromiley & G. Friedrich, Ed.). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.
[ii] Strong, J. (1996). The exhaustive concordance of the Bible: Showing every word of the test of the common English version of the canonical books, and every occurence of each word in regular order. (electronic ed.) (5818). Ontario: Woodside Bible Fellowship.
Gill -> 2Pe 3:8
Gill: 2Pe 3:8 - -- But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,.... Here the apostle addresses the saints he writes unto, and for whom he had a tender affection and ...
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,.... Here the apostle addresses the saints he writes unto, and for whom he had a tender affection and regard, and for whose welfare he was concerned, lest they should be stumbled at the length of time since the promise of the coming of Christ was given, and which these scoffers object; and therefore he would have them know, observe, and consider this one thing, which might be of great use to them to make their minds easy, and keep up their faith and expectation of the coming of Christ:
that one day is, with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day; referring either to Psa 90:4; or to a common saying among the Jews, founded on the same passage,
"in the time to come, which is in the last days, on the sixth day, which is the sixth millennium, when the Messiah comes, for the day of the holy blessed God is a thousand years.''
And a little after,
""the Lord hath created a new thing in the earth, a woman shall compass a man". This is in the time of the Messiah which is in the sixth day.''
And elsewhere b,
"the sixth degree is called the sixth day, the day of the holy blessed God is a thousand years. And in that day the King Messiah shall come, and it shall be called the feast of gathering, for the holy blessed God will gather in it the captivity of his people.''
So they call the sabbath, or seventh day, the seventh millennium, and interpret c.
""the song for the sabbath day", Psa 92:1 title, for the seventh millennium, for one day of the holy blessed God is a thousand years.''
To which agrees the tradition of Elias, which runs thus d;
"it is the tradition of the house of Elias, that the world shall be six thousand years, two thousand years void (of the law), two thousand years the law, and two thousand years the days of the Messiah;''
for they suppose that the six days of the creation were expressive of the six thousand years in which the world will stand; and that the seventh day prefigures the last millennium, in which will be the day of judgment, and the world to come; for
"the six days of the creation (they say e) is a sign or intimation of these things: on the sixth day man was created; and on the seventh his work was finished; so the kings of the nations of the world (continue) five millenniums, answering to the five days, in which were created the fowls, and the creeping things of the waters, and other things; and the enjoyment of their kingdom is a little in the sixth, answerable to the creation of the beasts, and living creatures created at this time in the beginning of it; and the kingdom of the house of David is in the sixth millennium, answerable to the creation of man, who knew his Creator, and ruled over them all; and in the end of that millennium will be the day of judgment, answerable to man, who was judged in the end of it; and the seventh is the sabbath, and it is the beginning of the world to come.''
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NET Notes -> 2Pe 3:8
NET Notes: 2Pe 3:8 The same verb, λανθάνω (lanqanw, “escape”) used in v. 5 is found here (there, translated “suppres...
Geneva Bible -> 2Pe 3:8
Geneva Bible: 2Pe 3:8 ( 7 ) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
( 7 ) Th...
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TSK Synopsis -> 2Pe 3:1-18
TSK Synopsis: 2Pe 3:1-18 - --1 He assures them of the certainty of Christ's coming to judgment, against those scorners who dispute against it;8 warning the godly, for the long pat...
MHCC -> 2Pe 3:5-10
MHCC: 2Pe 3:5-10 - --Had these scoffers considered the dreadful vengeance with which God swept away a whole world of ungodly men at once, surely they would not have scoffe...
Matthew Henry -> 2Pe 3:8
Matthew Henry: 2Pe 3:8 - -- The apostle comes in these words to instruct and establish Christians in the truth of the coming of the Lord, where we may clearly discern the tende...
Barclay -> 2Pe 3:8-9
Barclay: 2Pe 3:8-9 - --There are in this passage three great truths on which to nourish the mind and rest the heart.
(i) Time is not the same to God as it is to man. As the...
Constable -> 2Pe 3:1-16; 2Pe 3:7-10
Constable: 2Pe 3:1-16 - --V. THE PROSPECT FOR THE CHRISTIAN 3:1-16
Peter turned from a negative warning against false teachers to make a ...
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