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Text -- 2 Samuel 5:8 (NET)

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5:8 David said on that day, “Whoever attacks the Jebusites must approach the ‘lame’ and the ‘blind’ who are David’s enemies by going through the water tunnel.” For this reason it is said, “The blind and the lame cannot enter the palace.”
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · David a son of Jesse of Judah; king of Israel,son of Jesse of Judah; king of Israel
 · Jebusite resident(s) of the town of Jebus (Jerusalem)


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Zion | WATERFALL | WATERCOURSE | SAMUEL, BOOKS OF | Lamentations, Book of | Lameness | Jerusalem | Jebusites | Jebus | JOAB | JERUSALEM, 4 | JERUSALEM, 3 | JERUSALEM, 2 | JEBUS; JEBUSI; JEBUSITE | HOUSE | Gutter | GAMES | FORTIFICATION; FORT; FORTIFIED CITIES; FORTRESS | Blind | more
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: 2Sa 5:8 - -- That is, whosoever scaleth the fort, or getteth up to the top of it, where the gutter was.

That is, whosoever scaleth the fort, or getteth up to the top of it, where the gutter was.

Wesley: 2Sa 5:8 - -- The Jebusites, and the lame, and the blind, Who had probably themselves insulted him, and blasphemed God.

The Jebusites, and the lame, and the blind, Who had probably themselves insulted him, and blasphemed God.

Wesley: 2Sa 5:8 - -- These words are fitly supplied out of 1Ch 11:6, where they are expressed.

These words are fitly supplied out of 1Ch 11:6, where they are expressed.

Wesley: 2Sa 5:8 - -- That is, whence it became a proverb, or a common saying, used by David, and others, the blind and the lame Jebusites, were set to keep the house, that...

That is, whence it became a proverb, or a common saying, used by David, and others, the blind and the lame Jebusites, were set to keep the house, that is, the fort of Zion; and to keep others from coming into it; but now they are shut out of it, and none of them, either of the Jebusites, or of blind and lame persons, shall be admitted to come into it again. Which David might ordain, to keep up the memory of this great exploit, and of the insolent carriage of the Jebusites.

JFB: 2Sa 5:8 - -- This is thought by some to mean a subterranean passage; by others a spout through which water was poured upon the fire which the besiegers often appli...

This is thought by some to mean a subterranean passage; by others a spout through which water was poured upon the fire which the besiegers often applied to the woodwork at the gateways, and by the projections of which a skilful climber might make his ascent good; a third class render the words, "whosoever dasheth them against the precipice" (1Ch 11:6).

TSK: 2Sa 5:8 - -- Whosoever : Jos 15:16, Jos 15:17; 1Sa 17:25 he shall be : 1Ch 11:6-9 Wherefore : etc. or, Because they had said, even the blind and the lame, he shall...

Whosoever : Jos 15:16, Jos 15:17; 1Sa 17:25

he shall be : 1Ch 11:6-9

Wherefore : etc. or, Because they had said, even the blind and the lame, he shall not come into the house

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: 2Sa 5:8 - -- i. e. "Whosoever will smite the Jebusites, let him reach both the lame and the blind, who are the hated of David’ s soul, by the gutter or wate...

i. e. "Whosoever will smite the Jebusites, let him reach both the lame and the blind, who are the hated of David’ s soul, by the gutter or water-course, and he shall be chief."The only access to the citadel was where the water had worn a channel (some understand a subterranean channel), and where there was, in consequence, some vegetation in the rock. Joab (see the marginal reference) took the hint, and with all the activity that had distinguished his brother Anabel 2Sa 2:18, climbed up first. The blind and the lame are either literally such, placed there in derision by the Jebusites who thought the stronghold impregnable, or they are the Jebusite garrison, so called in derision by David.

Wherefore they said ... - i. e. it became a proverb (as in 1Sa 19:24). The proverb seems merely to have arisen from the blind and the lame being the hated of David’ s soul, and hence, to have been used proverbially of any that were hated, or unwelcome, or disagreeable.

Poole: 2Sa 5:8 - -- Whosoever getteth up to the gutter i.e. whosoever scaleth the fort, or getteth up to the top of it, where the gutter was. And the lame and the blind...

Whosoever getteth up to the gutter i.e. whosoever scaleth the fort, or getteth up to the top of it, where the gutter was.

And the lame and the blind or even , or especially (for the Hebrew particle vau signifies both ways) the lame and the blind ; i.e. those of them who are set to defend that place; who, as they pretend, should be only the lame and the blind. Others understand it of their idols or images. But they could not properly be said to be smitten , i. e. killed; as that word is used here, and elsewhere.

That are hated of David’ s soul: this belongs to the Jebusite, and the lame and the blind ; and it is explained in 2Sa 5:6 .

He shall be chief and captain: these words are fitly supplied out of 1Ch 11:6 , where they are expressed; and they must needs be understood to make the sense complete. And such ellipses or defects of a part of the sentence are usual in promises, and oaths, and conditional offers, such as this was.

Wherefore they said, The blind and the lame shall not come into the house i.e. whence it became a proverb, or a common saying, used by David and others upon this occasion. Or otherwise, The blind and the lame Jebusites were set to keep the house, i.e. the fort of Zion; and to keep others from coming into it; but now they are shut out of it, and none of them, to wit, either,

1. Of the Jebusites; or,

2. Of blind and lame persons, shall be admitted to come into it again; which David might resolve, and ordain, to keep up the memory of this great exploit, and of the insolent carriage of the Jebusites, and their unhappy success. Or, The blind and the lame shall not come into my house , to wit, into the king’ s palace. And although this might be a general rule and decree of David’ s, yet he might dispense with it in some special cases, as in that of Mephibosheth. But it is not necessary that this should be a proverb; for the words may be thus rendered, as it is in the margin of our Bible, Because they had said, even the blind and the lame , He (i. e. David) shall not come into the house; or, Because they (i. e. the Jebusites) had said, The blind and the lame shall hinder him ; (which words are easily supplied out of 2Sa 5:6 , where having spoken of this more largely, it was sufficient here to mention the most emphatical words, as is usual in such cases;) he shall not come into the house , or hither , as they say, 2Sa 5:6 . i. e. into the fort; for the word house is used very largely and generally in the Hebrew language, for any place, as Jud 16:21 .

Haydock: 2Sa 5:8 - -- Gutters. Hebrew Tsinnor, "through (Nodius) the subterraneous passage," (leading to the tops of the houses.) (Hugo of Vienna) --- Thus Babylon wa...

Gutters. Hebrew Tsinnor, "through (Nodius) the subterraneous passage," (leading to the tops of the houses.) (Hugo of Vienna) ---

Thus Babylon was taken by Cyrus, who passed through the channel of the Euphrates, the waters of which he had let out; though the inhabitants had derided his attempt to take the city by siege, as the men of Jebus do here. Polybius says, "Rabatamana, a city of Arabia, could not be taken, till one of the prisoners shewed the besiegers a subterraneous passage, ( Greek: uponomon ) through which the besieged came down for water." Of the same nature were the gutters here spoken of. (Kennicott) ---

"The king promised to give the command of the army to the man who would pass through the cavities ( Greek: pharaggon ) below, and take the citadel." (Josephus) ---

This reward is expressly mentioned in 1 Paralipomenon xi. 6, with the person who obtained it; (St. Jerome, Trad.) and it seems, after David, this ought to be inserted, "shall be the head and captain. And Joab, the son of Sarvia, went up first, and was made the general." (Haydock) ---

Hatred. Hebrew, "that are hated by David's soul." Cajetan supposes that the Jebusites in the citadel, are thus distinguished from those who dwelt peaceably in the lower town, with the Israelites. (Calmet) ---

Proverb. Protestants insert, " He shall be head and captain. Wherefore they said, the blind....into the house." What is translated temple, may denote also, "the house" of David, or "the place" where this provocation had been given. (Haydock) ---

Idols shall never be adored in the true Church. (Worthington) ---

Some think that the blind and the lame were excluded from the temple, or from David's palace. But we find that they had free access to the temple; (Matthew xxi. 14., and Acts iii. 2.) and Miphiboseth ate at David's table, though he was lame. If the Jebusites be designated, they were already excluded from the temple, like other infidels of Chanaan. (Calmet) ---

Josephus ([Antiquities?] vii. 3.) insinuates, that "David drove them from Jerusalem," though we read of Areuna residing there, chap. xxiv.16. But he might be a proselyte before, and not dwell in the fort. The expression seems however to be proverbial, to signify any very difficult enterprize, which proves successful, and contrary to expectation. (Haydock) ---

The Jebusites were thus derided (Sanctius) in their turn. (Tirinus) ---

Whether Joab took this strong place by a subterraneous passage, (Haydock) or scaled the walls, and so got to the top, whence the water falls, as from a gutter; (Calmet) it is certain that he displayed the utmost valour, and thus obtained the confirmation of his authority, which David would perhaps have willingly taken from him, (Salien) if another had offered himself, and performed this hazardous enterprize. (Haydock) ---

He made a fair offer to all Israel, as they probably expected. (Kennicott)

Gill: 2Sa 5:8 - -- And David said on that day,.... On which he took the strong hold of Zion: whosoever getteth up to the gutter; where it is generally supposed the bl...

And David said on that day,.... On which he took the strong hold of Zion:

whosoever getteth up to the gutter; where it is generally supposed the blind and lame were, whether images or real men: but what is meant by "Tzinnur", we render "gutter", is not easy to say; we follow some of the Jewish writers, who take it to be a canal, or water spout, used to carry off the water from roofs of houses into cisterns, as the word is rendered in Psa 42:7; which is the only place besides this in which it is used in Scripture; but R. Isaiah takes it to be the bar or bolt of the gate, and the sense to be, whoever got up to the gate, and got in at that, unbolting it, or breaking through it; the Targum interprets it of the tower of the city, or strong fortress, and so Abarbinel; but Jarchi says it was a ditch, agreeably to which Bochart h translates the words, and indeed more agreeably to the order of them;"whosoever smites the Jebusites, let him cast into the ditch (next the wall) both the blind and the lame, extremely hated by David.''But a learned modern writer i gives a more ingenious and probable interpretation of these words thus;"whosoever (first) smiteth the Jebusites, and through the subterraneous passages reaches the lame and the blind, &c.''and which seems to be favoured by Josephus, as he observes; who says k, the king promised the command of the whole army to him who should δια των υποκειμενων φαραγγων, "through the subterraneous cavities", go up to the citadel, and take it: to which I would add that the word is used in the Chaldee paraphrase of Ecc 1:7, of the several subterraneous passages, through which the rivers flow out of and reflow into the ocean: remarkable is the note of Theodoret,

"a certain Hebrew says, Aquila renders it "through a pipe"; on which, he observes, David being willing to spare the walls of the city, ordered the citizens should enter into the city by an aqueduct;''according to the Jews, there, was a cave underground, which reached from the king's house in Jerusalem to Jericho, when it was taken by Nebuchadnezzar; See Gill on Jer 39:4; in which story there may be a mixture of fable; yet it is not improbable that there was such a subterraneous passage; since Dio Cassius l speaks of several such, through which the Jews made their escape in the last siege of the city:

and smiteth the Jebusites, and the lame and the blind; or even the lame and the blind men the Jebusites had placed to mock David; and therefore it follows:

that are hated of David's soul: because he was despised and jeered at by them, and through them: if these could be understood of their idols and images, the phrase would be easily accounted for, nothing being more abominable to David than idolatry:

he shall be chief and captain; these words are not in the original text here, but are supplied from 1Ch 11:6; that is, he shall be chief commander of the army, as Joab became, who was the first that went up and smote them:

wherefore they said, the blind and the lame shall not come into the house; that is, either the Jebusites said this, that their images, called in derision by David the blind and the lame, if these did not keep David out, they should never be intrusted with the safety of their fort any more m; or rather because the blind and the lame men said this of David, he shall not come into the house, the fort, or citadel, therefore David hated them; which is the sense of the above learned writer n.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 2Sa 5:8 Heb “the house.” TEV takes this as a reference to the temple (“the Lord’s house”).

Geneva Bible: 2Sa 5:8 And David said on that day, Whosoever getteth up to the gutter, and smiteth the Jebusites, and the lame and the blind, [that are] hated of David's sou...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 5:1-25 - --1 The tribes come to Hebron and anoint David over Israel.4 David's age.6 He taking Zion from the Jebusites, dwells in it.11 Hiram sends to David.13 El...

Maclaren: 2Sa 5:1-12 - --2 Samuel 5:1-12 The dark day on Gilboa put the Philistines in possession of most of Saul's kingdom. Only in the south David held his ground, and Abner...

MHCC: 2Sa 5:6-10 - --The enemies of God's people are often very confident of their own strength, and most secure when their day to fall draws nigh. But the pride and insol...

Matthew Henry: 2Sa 5:6-10 - -- If Salem, the place of which Melchizedec was king, was Jerusalem (as seems probable from Psa 76:2), it was famous in Abraham's time. Joshua, in his ...

Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 5:6-10 - -- Conquest of the Stronghold of Zion, and Choice of Jerusalem as the Capital of the Kingdom (cf. 1Ch 11:4, 1Ch 11:9). - These parallel accounts agree ...

Constable: 2Sa 1:1--8:18 - --V. DAVID'S TRIUMPHS chs. 1--8 The first 20 chapters of 2 Samuel are divisible into four uni...

Constable: 2Sa 3:6--5:17 - --B. The Unification of the Kingdom 3:6-5:16 The writer also documented God's blessing on David in this re...

Constable: 2Sa 5:1-12 - --3. David's acceptance by all Israel 5:1-12 In 1004 B.C. David became king of all Israel and Juda...

Guzik: 2Sa 5:1-25 - --2 Samuel 5 - David Made King Over a United Israel A. David reigns over all Israel. 1. (1-3) The elders of Israel recognize David as king over Israel...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 2 Samuel (Outline) AN AMALEKITE BRINGS TIDINGS OF SAUL'S DEATH. (2Sa. 1:1-16) DAVID LAMENTS SAUL AND JONATHAN. (2Sa 1:17-27) DAVID, BY GOD'S DIRECTION, GOES UP TO HEBRO...

TSK: 2 Samuel 5 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 2Sa 5:1, The tribes come to Hebron and anoint David over Israel; 2Sa 5:4, David’s age; 2Sa 5:6, He taking Zion from the Jebusites, dwel...

Poole: 2 Samuel 5 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 5 The tribes come to Hebron to anoint David king over all Israel: the years of his reign at Hebron and Jerusalem: his age, 2Sa 5:1-5...

MHCC: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) This book is the history of the reign of king David. It relates his victories, the growth of the prosperity of Israel, and his reformation of the stat...

MHCC: 2 Samuel 5 (Chapter Introduction) (2Sa 5:1-5) David king over all Israel. (2Sa 5:6-10) He takes the strong-hold of Zion. (2Sa 5:11-16) David's kingdom established. (2Sa 5:17-25) He ...

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Second Book of Samuel This book is the history of the reign of king David. We had in the foregoing ...

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel 5 (Chapter Introduction) How far Abner's deserting the house of Saul, his murder, and the murder of Ish-bosheth, might contribute to the perfecting of the revolution, and t...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Second Samuel continues the history begun in 1 Samuel. Please see my comments regarding 2 Samuel's title, d...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Outline) Outline (Continued from notes on 1 Samuel) V. David's triumphs chs. 1-8 ...

Constable: 2 Samuel 2 Samuel Bibliography Achtemeier, Paul J., and Elizabeth Achtemeier. The Old Testament Roots of Our Faith. Phil...

Haydock: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE SECOND BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE SECOND BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This Book contains the transactions of David till the end ...

Gill: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 SAMUEL This book, in many copies of the Hebrew Bible, is carried on without any new title put unto it; the reason of it is, becau...

Gill: 2 Samuel 5 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO SECOND SAMUEL 5 In this chapter we have an account of all the tribes of Israel coming to Hebron, and anointing David king over them...

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