
Text -- 2 Samuel 19:1-8 (NET)




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Wesley: 2Sa 19:3 - -- Not openly and triumphantly, as conquerors use to do; but secretly, as if they were afraid and ashamed, lest David should see them, and look upon them...
Not openly and triumphantly, as conquerors use to do; but secretly, as if they were afraid and ashamed, lest David should see them, and look upon them with an evil eye, as those that had an hand in killing of his beloved son.

Wesley: 2Sa 19:5 - -- By disappointing their just hopes of praises and rewards, and by requiting them with contempt and tacit rebukes.
By disappointing their just hopes of praises and rewards, and by requiting them with contempt and tacit rebukes.

Wesley: 2Sa 19:6 - -- This is not be understood as exactly true; but David's carriage gave too much colour to such a suggestion; and such sharpness of speech was in a manne...
This is not be understood as exactly true; but David's carriage gave too much colour to such a suggestion; and such sharpness of speech was in a manner necessary to awaken the king out of his lethargy, and to preserve him from the impendent mischiefs.
JFB: 2Sa 19:3 - -- The rumor of the king's disconsolate condition spread a universal and unseasonable gloom. His troops, instead of being welcomed back (as a victorious ...
The rumor of the king's disconsolate condition spread a universal and unseasonable gloom. His troops, instead of being welcomed back (as a victorious army always was) with music and other demonstrations of public joy, slunk secretly and silently into the city, as if ashamed after the commission of some crime.

JFB: 2Sa 19:5 - -- By withdrawing thyself to indulge in grief, as if their services were disagreeable and their devotion irksome to thee. Instead of hailing their return...
By withdrawing thyself to indulge in grief, as if their services were disagreeable and their devotion irksome to thee. Instead of hailing their return with joy and gratitude, thou hast refused them the small gratification of seeing thee. Joab's remonstrance was right and necessary, but it was made with harshness. He was one of those persons who spoil their important services by the insolence of their manners, and who always awaken a feeling of obligation in those to whom they render any services. He spoke to David in a tone of hauteur that ill became a subject to show towards his king.

JFB: 2Sa 19:7 - -- The king felt the truth of Joab's reprimand; but the threat by which it was enforced, grounded as it was on the general's unbounded popularity with th...
The king felt the truth of Joab's reprimand; but the threat by which it was enforced, grounded as it was on the general's unbounded popularity with the army, showed him to be a dangerous person; and that circumstance, together with the violation of an express order to deal gently for his sake with Absalom, produced in David's mind a settled hatred, which was strongly manifested in his last directions to Solomon.

He appeared daily in the usual place for the hearing of causes.

JFB: 2Sa 19:8 - -- That is, the loyal natives who had been faithful to his government, and fought in his cause.
That is, the loyal natives who had been faithful to his government, and fought in his cause.

JFB: 2Sa 19:8 - -- That is, the adherents of Absalom, who, on his defeat, had dispersed and saved themselves by flight.
That is, the adherents of Absalom, who, on his defeat, had dispersed and saved themselves by flight.
Clarke: 2Sa 19:2 - -- The victory - was turned into mourning - Instead of rejoicing that a most unnatural and ruinous rebellion had been quashed, the people mourned over ...
The victory - was turned into mourning - Instead of rejoicing that a most unnatural and ruinous rebellion had been quashed, the people mourned over their own success, because they saw their king so immoderately afflicted for the loss of his worthless son.

The king covered his face - This was the custom of mourners

Clarke: 2Sa 19:4 - -- O my son Absalom - Calmet has properly remarked that the frequent repetition of the name of the defunct, is common in the language of lamentation. T...
O my son Absalom - Calmet has properly remarked that the frequent repetition of the name of the defunct, is common in the language of lamentation. Thus Virgil, act. v., ver. 51: -
Daphnin que team tollemus ad astra
Daphnin ad astra feremus: amavit nos quoque Daphnis
"With yours, my song I cheerfully shall join
To raise your Daphnis to the powers Divine
Daphnis I’ ll raise unto the powers above
For dear to me was Daphnis’ well tried love.
See the notes on the preceding chapter, 2 Samuel 18 (note).

Clarke: 2Sa 19:5 - -- Thou hast shamed this day - Joab’ s speech to David on his immoderate grief for the death of his rebellious son is not only remarkable for the ...
Thou hast shamed this day - Joab’ s speech to David on his immoderate grief for the death of his rebellious son is not only remarkable for the insolence of office, but also for good sense and firmness. Every man who candidly considers the state of the case, must allow that David acted imprudently at least; and that Joab’ s firm reproof was necessary to arouse him to a sense of his duty to his people. But still, in his manner, Joab had far exceeded the bonds of that reverence which a servant owes to his master, or a subject to his prince. Joab was a good soldier, but in every respect a bad man, and a dangerous subject.

Clarke: 2Sa 19:8 - -- The king - sat in the gate - The place where justice was administered to the people.
The king - sat in the gate - The place where justice was administered to the people.



TSK: 2Sa 19:4 - -- covered : 2Sa 15:30
O my son : It is allowed by competent critics that the lamentation of David over his son, of which this forms a part, is exceeding...
covered : 2Sa 15:30
O my son : It is allowed by competent critics that the lamentation of David over his son, of which this forms a part, is exceedingly pathetic; and Calmet properly remarks, that the frequent repetition of the name of the deceased is common in the language of lamentation. 2Sa 18:33

TSK: 2Sa 19:5 - -- Thou hast : Every one must admit that David’ s immoderate grief for his rebellious son was imprudent, and that Joab’ s firm and sensible rep...
Thou hast : Every one must admit that David’ s immoderate grief for his rebellious son was imprudent, and that Joab’ s firm and sensible reproof was necessary to arouse him to a sense of his duty to his peoplecaps1 . bcaps0 ut, in his manner, Joab far exceeded the bounds of that reverence which a servant owes to his master, or a subject to his prince.

TSK: 2Sa 19:6 - -- In that : etc. Heb. By loving, etc
thou regardest : etc. Heb. princes or servants are not to thee. then it had. 2Sa 3:24, 2Sa 3:25; Job 34:18; Pro 19...

TSK: 2Sa 19:7 - -- comfortably unto thy : Heb. to the heart of thy, Gen 34:3; Pro 19:15; Isa 40:1; Hos 2:14 *marg.
there : Pro 14:28
all the evil : Psa 71:4-6, Psa 71:9-...
comfortably unto thy : Heb. to the heart of thy, Gen 34:3; Pro 19:15; Isa 40:1; Hos 2:14 *marg.
there : Pro 14:28
all the evil : Psa 71:4-6, Psa 71:9-11, Psa 71:18-20, Psa 129:1, Psa 129:2

TSK: 2Sa 19:8 - -- sat in the gate : How prudently and mildly David took the reproof and counsel given him! He shook off his grief, anointed his head, and washed his fa...
sat in the gate : How prudently and mildly David took the reproof and counsel given him! He shook off his grief, anointed his head, and washed his face, that he might not appear unto men to mourn, and then made his appearance at the gate of the city, which was the public place of resort for the hearing of causes and giving judgment, as well as a place to ratify special bargains. Thither the people flocked to congratulate him on his and their safety, and that all was well. When we are convinced of a fault, we must amend, though we are told of it by our inferiors in a way which is peculiarly painful to our natural feelings. This ancient custom still obtains in the East; for when Dr. Pococke returned from viewing the town of ancient Byblus, he says, ""The sheik and the elders were sitting in the gate of the city, after the ancient manner, and I sat awhile with them.""2Sa 18:4, 2Sa 18:24
for Israel : 2Sa 19:3, 2Sa 18:6-8; 1Ki 22:36; 2Ki 14:12

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Barnes: 2Sa 19:5 - -- Had Absalom gained the victory, it is likely that, according to the manner of Oriental despots, he would have sought to secure his throne by killing...

Barnes: 2Sa 19:8 - -- David saw the justice of what Joab said, and the new danger which threatened him if he did not rouse himself from his grief. For Israel ... - ...
It was told Joab by his messengers, upon their return.

Poole: 2Sa 19:3 - -- Not openly, and orderly, and triumphantly, as conquerors use to do; but secretly, and disorderly, and asunder, as if they were afraid and ashamed, l...
Not openly, and orderly, and triumphantly, as conquerors use to do; but secretly, and disorderly, and asunder, as if they were afraid and ashamed, lest David should see them, and look upon them with an evil eye, as those that had a hand in the killing of his dearly beloved son.

Poole: 2Sa 19:4 - -- The king covered his face as a deep mourner, as one that desired neither to see, nor to be seen by any others.
The king covered his face as a deep mourner, as one that desired neither to see, nor to be seen by any others.

Poole: 2Sa 19:5 - -- Joab came into the house either the gate-house, or his now dwelling-house in the city, to which he was retired, that he might more freely indulge him...
Joab came into the house either the gate-house, or his now dwelling-house in the city, to which he was retired, that he might more freely indulge himself in the expressions of his grief.
Thou hast shamed the faces of all thy servants by disappointing their just hopes of praises and rewards, and by requiting them with contempt and tacit rebukes.
Thy life, and the lives of thy sons, and of thy daughters, and of thy wives, and of thy concubines all which Absalom struck at, and had sooner or later actually taken away, if he had not been cut off in such a manner, without expecting thy knowledge or consent; and therefore thy carriage towards them that have saved the lives of thee and thine, with the utmost hazard of their own, is highly unjust and ungrateful.

Poole: 2Sa 19:6 - -- This is not to be understood as exactly true in the rigour of it, but only comparatively and hyperbolically spoken; for David desired their preserva...
This is not to be understood as exactly true in the rigour of it, but only comparatively and hyperbolically spoken; for David desired their preservation and Absalom’ s too: but it must be considered that Joab was now in a high transport of passion, which might easily hurry him into indecent expressions; and that David’ s carriage gave too much colour to such a suggestion; and that such sharpness of speech was in a manner necessary to awaken the king out of his lethargy, and to preserve him from the impendent mischiefs.

Poole: 2Sa 19:7 - -- I swear by the Lord: this oath was either assertory of what he believed might in reason be expected, as likely in great measure to come to pass; or e...
I swear by the Lord: this oath was either assertory of what he believed might in reason be expected, as likely in great measure to come to pass; or else promissory; or rather, minatory of what he by his influence could and would effect; and if so, it was much more than became him to say to his sovereign, and could only be excused by the circumstances, which at. this time might make it seem necessary: for David was indeed to blame in taking no more notice of their good service (however Joab might be faulty also in disobeying the king’ s express command as to Absalom’ s person); and great reason there was that David, as Joab did-now advise, should show himself less displeased to the people, who had exposed their lives to preserve him and his.
If thou go not forth to the gate to show thyself to thy people, and kindly and thankfully to acknowledge the good service that they have now done thee.
There will not tarry one with thee this night the hearts of all thy people will forthwith be irrecoverably alienated from thee, and they will look out for some other person on whom they may set the crown.

Poole: 2Sa 19:8 - -- The king arose, and sat in the gate He was come forth out of his retirement, and appeared in public on the seat of judgment, at the gate of the city,...
The king arose, and sat in the gate He was come forth out of his retirement, and appeared in public on the seat of judgment, at the gate of the city, to receive the addresses of his people, and mind the affairs of the kingdom.
All the people came before the king to congratulate him for the victory, and to profess their subjection to him. So Joab’ s speech, though very severe and presumptuous, was it seems a word in season, and had that good effect which he designed.
Secure. Septuagint, "I will continually nourish thy old age." (Haydock)

Haydock: 2Sa 19:2 - -- Mourning, as is commonly the case in civil wars. The king being oppressed with grief, a triumph was out of season. (Menochius)
Mourning, as is commonly the case in civil wars. The king being oppressed with grief, a triumph was out of season. (Menochius)

Haydock: 2Sa 19:3 - -- Shunned. Hebrew, "stole away," fearing to enter; though they did at last, in a clandestine manner, (Calmet) by another gate. (Menochius)
Shunned. Hebrew, "stole away," fearing to enter; though they did at last, in a clandestine manner, (Calmet) by another gate. (Menochius)

Haydock: 2Sa 19:4 - -- Head, continuing to mourn. See chap. xv. 30. ---
Absalom. The name is often repeated, as is usual on such occasions. (Virgil, Eclogues v.) ---
...
Head, continuing to mourn. See chap. xv. 30. ---
Absalom. The name is often repeated, as is usual on such occasions. (Virgil, Eclogues v.) ---
Thus Bion says, "I bewail Adonis. The beautiful Adonis is no more," &c.

Haydock: 2Sa 19:5 - -- Shamed; deceived the expectations. See Joel ii. 12. Joab was one of those who spoil all their services by ostentation and rudeness. Like the first...
Shamed; deceived the expectations. See Joel ii. 12. Joab was one of those who spoil all their services by ostentation and rudeness. Like the first Anthony, Immodicus lingua, obsequii insolens, nimius commemorandis quæ meruisset. (Tacitus, Hist. iv.) ---
He speaks to David, his king, as one friend would not do to another. "That sort of men is truly odious, who upbraid with their kindness; which those who have experienced, rather than the authors, ought to remember." (Cicero, Amicit.)

Haydock: 2Sa 19:6 - -- Thee. What insolence! Kings are often forced to brook the affronts of their higher servants, as well as other masters. There is a gradation in hum...
Thee. What insolence! Kings are often forced to brook the affronts of their higher servants, as well as other masters. There is a gradation in human affairs, which make the next in dignity and power think himself equal to the highest. Similis ero altissimo, Isaias xiv. 14. (Haydock) ---
David sincerely desired the welfare of all his people, as well as of Absalom. (Menochius)

Haydock: 2Sa 19:7 - -- To. ( satisfac ). Hebrew, "speak to the heart," &c., with a cheerful countenance, to testify that their services will be rewarded. (Calmet)
To. ( satisfac ). Hebrew, "speak to the heart," &c., with a cheerful countenance, to testify that their services will be rewarded. (Calmet)

Haydock: 2Sa 19:8 - -- Israel, the rebels, as distinguished form Juda, or those who adhered to David; though many of all the tribes sided with Absalom, ver. 11. (Haydock)
Israel, the rebels, as distinguished form Juda, or those who adhered to David; though many of all the tribes sided with Absalom, ver. 11. (Haydock)
Gill: 2Sa 19:1 - -- And it was told Joab,.... When returned to Mahanaim, or on his way to it; perhaps by the messengers he sent; and this report he had before he saw the ...
And it was told Joab,.... When returned to Mahanaim, or on his way to it; perhaps by the messengers he sent; and this report he had before he saw the king:
behold, the king weepeth and mourneth for Absalom; for the death of him, instead of rejoicing at the victory obtained, and the deliverance from his enemies.

Gill: 2Sa 19:2 - -- And the victory that day was turned into mourning unto all the people,.... They also mourned too, instead of expressing joy upon the occasion:
for...
And the victory that day was turned into mourning unto all the people,.... They also mourned too, instead of expressing joy upon the occasion:
for the people heard say that day how the king was grieved for his son; this report was spread among them, which damped their joy, and hindered them from giving any tokens of it, as were usual at such times.

Gill: 2Sa 19:3 - -- And the people got them by stealth that day into the city,.... Did not march into it in companies, in a public and triumphant manner, as conquerors us...
And the people got them by stealth that day into the city,.... Did not march into it in companies, in a public and triumphant manner, as conquerors used to do; but entered in a private manner, one by one, or a very few together, not caring to be seen or known, at least by the king, as fearing they had incurred his displeasure: but
as people being ashamed steal away when they flee in battle; as if they had been conquered, and not conquerors; nay, had acted a cowardly part, and ran away; and so cared not to be seen, lest they should be reproached, or suffer for their cowardice.

Gill: 2Sa 19:4 - -- But the king covered his face,.... And would not see his generals, and thank them for their services: but wrapped himself in his mantle, after the man...
But the king covered his face,.... And would not see his generals, and thank them for their services: but wrapped himself in his mantle, after the manner of mourners:
and the king cried with a loud voice, O my son Absalom! O Absalom, my son, my son! and this was some time, perhaps some days after he had received the news of his death, since Joab and the army were returned from the battle; had it been a sudden start of passion, upon first hearing thee news, and had continued a few hours, it would have been more excusable; but to continue some days, as it is very probable it did, was very unbecoming.

Gill: 2Sa 19:5 - -- And Joab came into the house to the king,.... For by this time he was removed from the chamber over the gate to his own dwelling house or palace, wher...
And Joab came into the house to the king,.... For by this time he was removed from the chamber over the gate to his own dwelling house or palace, where he continued the same doleful ditty as at first:
and said, thou hast shamed this day the faces of all thy servants; they cannot lift up their heads, and look any in the face, nor one another; but behave as if they had committed some very great fault, in fighting with the rebels, and beating them:
which this day have saved thy life, and the lives of thy sons, and of thy daughters, and the lives of thy wives, and the lives of thy concubines; which in all probability would have been taken away if the victory had been on the side of Absalom.

Gill: 2Sa 19:6 - -- In that thou lovest thine enemies, and hatest thy friends,.... Which though not strictly true, there was some appearance of it, which is here greatly ...
In that thou lovest thine enemies, and hatest thy friends,.... Which though not strictly true, there was some appearance of it, which is here greatly exaggerated; in that he expressed so much grief and sorrow for Absalom his enemy, who had rebelled against him, and showed so little regard to his friends, that had exposed their lives for him:
for thou hast declared this day: by his conduct and behaviour, mourning for his rebellious son, and taking no notice of his faithful servants:
that thou regardest neither princes nor servants; neither the officers of the army, the generals and captains, nor the common soldiers: since neither the one were admitted into his presence privately, nor had the other public thanks as they entered the city, as might have been expected: or "that thou hast no princes and servants" g; none that are accounted of as such; they are nothing with thee, in no esteem at all, as if thou hadst none:
for this day I perceive that if Absalom had lived, and all we had died this day, then it had pleased thee well; this was carrying the matter too far; for though it would have been agreeable to David if Absalom had lived, and not been slain, yet not that his army should perish, or his people be destroyed; it would have pleased him well if both had lived.

Gill: 2Sa 19:7 - -- Now therefore arise, go forth,.... Arise from his couch, he was watering with his tears, and go forth from his house, where he had shut himself up ret...
Now therefore arise, go forth,.... Arise from his couch, he was watering with his tears, and go forth from his house, where he had shut himself up retired from all company, to the gate of the city, where the people passed and repassed, and there was a concourse of them: this he said not by way of command, but by way of advice; though all along he seems to take too much upon him, and to speak unbecoming a subject, and not with that decency as was necessary in, speaking to a king; but it may be observed, that a general of an army had great power over princes in those times; and presumed very much on their interest in the army, which led them sometimes not to behave with that decorum as became them:
and speak comfortably unto thy servants; commend them for their courage and faithfulness, thank them for their services, and reward them suitably; at least give them assurance of it:
for I swear by the Lord; by the Word of the Lord, as the Targum; this he said to arouse him, and make him bestir himself, and think what was proper for him to do:
if thou go not forth, there will not tarry one with thee this night; signifying that he would use his interest in the army to go off with it, and set up another king; and did not doubt of success, as well knowing what temper and humour the people were in through the king's conduct:
and that will be worse unto thee than all the evil that befell thee from thy youth until now; for when he was persecuted by Saul he had a number of friends that adhered close to him; and when Ishbosheth was set up against him by Abner as king of Israel, the tribe of Judah cleaved to him, anointed him their king, and abode by him; wherefore, should he now be abandoned by his army, his case would be worse than ever it had been.

Gill: 2Sa 19:8 - -- Than the king arose, and sat in the gate,.... Of the city, a public place, where the inhabitants met on divers accounts at times, and where there were...
Than the king arose, and sat in the gate,.... Of the city, a public place, where the inhabitants met on divers accounts at times, and where there were always people passing and repassing:
and they told unto all the people; or it was reported to the soldiers particularly:
saying, behold the king doth sit in the gate; has laid aside his mourning, appears in public, and receives his friends, and attends to business:
and all the people came before the king; to congratulate him on the victory obtained, to receive his thanks and his favours:
for Israel had fled every man to his tent: or to his city, as the Targum; that is, those that followed Absalom; which is observed not on account of what goes before, but of what follows after; see 2Sa 18:17.

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Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:4 But the king ( a ) covered his face, and the king cried with a loud voice, O my son Absalom, O Absalom, my son, my son!
( a ) As they do that mourn.

Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:5 And Joab came into the ( b ) house to the king, and said, Thou hast shamed this day the faces of all thy servants, which this day have saved thy life,...

Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:8 Then the king arose, and sat in the ( c ) gate. And they told unto all the people, saying, Behold, the king doth sit in the gate. And all the people c...

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TSK Synopsis -> 2Sa 19:1-43
TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 19:1-43 - --1 Joab causes the king to cease his mourning.9 The Israelites are earnest to bring the king back.11 David sends to the priests to incite them of Judah...
MHCC -> 2Sa 19:1-8
MHCC: 2Sa 19:1-8 - --To continue to lament for so bad a son as Absalom, was very unwise, and very unworthy. Joab censures David, but not with proper respect and deference ...
Matthew Henry -> 2Sa 19:1-8
Matthew Henry: 2Sa 19:1-8 - -- Soon after the messengers had brought the news of the defeat and death of Absalom to the court of Mahanaim, Joab and his victorious army followed, t...
Keil-Delitzsch -> 2Sa 19:1-8
Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 19:1-8 - --
2Sa 19:1-3
David's mourning, and Joab's reproof. - 2Sa 19:1-6. When Joab was told that the king was mourning and weeping for Absalom, he went to ...
Constable: 2Sa 9:1--20:26 - --VI. DAVID'S TROUBLES chs. 9--20
Chapters 9-20 contrast with chapters 2-8 in that this later section is negative ...

Constable: 2Sa 13:1--20:26 - --C. David's Rejection and Return chs. 13-20
This is the longest literary section in the Court History of ...

Constable: 2Sa 15:1--20:26 - --2. Absalom's attempt to usurp David's throne chs. 15-20
Absalom was never Yahweh's choice to suc...
