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Text -- 2 Samuel 19:27-43 (NET)
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To distinguish between true reports and calumnies; See note on "2Sa 14:20".
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:28 - -- Before thy tribunal: we were all at thy mercy: not my estate only but my life also was in thy power, if thou hadst dealt with rigour, and as earthly k...
Before thy tribunal: we were all at thy mercy: not my estate only but my life also was in thy power, if thou hadst dealt with rigour, and as earthly kings use to do with their predecessor's and enemies children.
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For the vindication of mine honour, and the restitution of my estate.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:29 - -- The land shall be divided between thee and him, as it was by my first order, 2Sa 9:10, he and his sons managing it, and supporting themselves out of i...
The land shall be divided between thee and him, as it was by my first order, 2Sa 9:10, he and his sons managing it, and supporting themselves out of it, as they did before, and giving the rest of the profits thereof to thee.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:35 - -- _My senses are grown dull, and incapable of relishing the pleasures of a court. I am past taking pleasures in delicious tastes, or sweet musick, and o...
_My senses are grown dull, and incapable of relishing the pleasures of a court. I am past taking pleasures in delicious tastes, or sweet musick, and other such delights. I am through age both useless and burdensome to others, and therefore most improper for a court life.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:37 - -- That my bones may with little ado, be carried to the place of their rest. The grave is ready for me: let me go and get ready for it, go and die in my ...
That my bones may with little ado, be carried to the place of their rest. The grave is ready for me: let me go and get ready for it, go and die in my nest.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:40 - -- Whereas the men of Judah came entirely and unanimously to the king, the Israelites of the other tribe came in but slowly, and by halves, as being no l...
Whereas the men of Judah came entirely and unanimously to the king, the Israelites of the other tribe came in but slowly, and by halves, as being no less guilty of the rebellion, than the tribe of Judah; but not encouraged to come in by such a gracious message as they were. And this is here mentioned as the occasion both of the contention here following, and of the sedition, 2Sa. 20:1-22.
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That is, conveyed thee over Jordan hastily, not expecting our concurrence.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:41 - -- All thy officers, guards, and soldiers. This is mentioned as an aggravation of their fault, that they did not only carry the king over Jordan, but all...
All thy officers, guards, and soldiers. This is mentioned as an aggravation of their fault, that they did not only carry the king over Jordan, but all his men too, without asking their advice.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:42 - -- Of the same tribe with us, and therefore both oweth the more respect to us, and might expect more respect from us.
Of the same tribe with us, and therefore both oweth the more respect to us, and might expect more respect from us.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:42 - -- We have neither sought nor gained any advantage to ourselves hereby, but only discharged our duty to the king, and used all expedition in bringing him...
We have neither sought nor gained any advantage to ourselves hereby, but only discharged our duty to the king, and used all expedition in bringing him back, which you also should have done, and not have come in by halves, and so coldly as you have done.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:43 - -- They say but ten, though strictly there were eleven; either, because they accounted Joseph (which comprehends both Ephraim and Manasseh under it) for ...
They say but ten, though strictly there were eleven; either, because they accounted Joseph (which comprehends both Ephraim and Manasseh under it) for one tribe, or because Simeon, whose lot lay within the tribe of Judah, were joined with them in this action.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:43 - -- As in the general we have more right in the king and kingdom; so particularly, we have more right in David than you, because you were the first beginn...
As in the general we have more right in the king and kingdom; so particularly, we have more right in David than you, because you were the first beginners, and the most zealous promoters of this rebellion; howsoever, as he is king, we justly claim a greater interest in him, than you; inasmuch as we are the far greatest part of his subjects.
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Wesley: 2Sa 19:43 - -- Instead of mollifying them with gentle words, they answered them with greater fierceness so that David durst not interpose in the matter.
Instead of mollifying them with gentle words, they answered them with greater fierceness so that David durst not interpose in the matter.
JFB: 2Sa 19:24-30 - -- The reception given to Mephibosheth was less creditable to David. The sincerity of that prince's grief for the misfortunes of the king cannot be doubt...
The reception given to Mephibosheth was less creditable to David. The sincerity of that prince's grief for the misfortunes of the king cannot be doubted.
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JFB: 2Sa 19:24-30 - -- The Hebrews cut off the hair on the upper lip (see on Lev 13:45), and cheeks, but carefully cherished it on the chin from ear to ear. Besides dyeing i...
The Hebrews cut off the hair on the upper lip (see on Lev 13:45), and cheeks, but carefully cherished it on the chin from ear to ear. Besides dyeing it black or red colors, which, however, is the exception, and not the rule in the East, there are various modes of trimming it: they train it into a massy, bushy form, swelling and round; or they terminate it like a pyramid, in a sharp point. Whatever the mode, it is always trimmed with the greatest care; and they usually carry a small comb for the purpose. The neglect of this attention to his beard was an undoubted proof of the depth of Mephibosheth's grief. The king seems to have received him upbraidingly, and not to have been altogether sure either of his guilt or innocence. It is impossible to commend the cavalier treatment, any more than to approve the partial award, of David in this case. If he were too hurried and distracted by the pressure of circumstances to inquire fully into the matter, he should have postponed his decision; for if by "dividing the land" (2Sa 19:29) he meant that the former arrangement should be continued by which Mephibosheth was acknowledged the proprietor, and Ziba the farmer, it was a hardship inflicted on the owner to fix him with a tenant who had so grossly slandered him. But if by "dividing the land," they were now to share alike, the injustice of the decision was greatly increased. In any view, the generous, disinterested spirit displayed by Mephibosheth was worthy a son of the noble-hearted Jonathan.|| 08543||1||10||0||@Barzillai the Gileadite==--The rank, great age, and chivalrous devotion of this Gileadite chief wins our respect. His declining to go to court, his recommendation of his son, his convoy across the Jordan, and his parting scene with the king, are interesting incidents. What mark of royal favor was bestowed on Chimham has not been recorded; but it is probable that David gave a great part of his personal patrimony in Beth-lehem to Chimham and his heirs in perpetuity (Jer 41:17).
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JFB: 2Sa 19:35 - -- Bands of professional musicians form a prominent appendage to the courts of Oriental princes.
Bands of professional musicians form a prominent appendage to the courts of Oriental princes.
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JFB: 2Sa 19:37 - -- This is an instance of the strong affection of people in the East towards the places of sepulture appropriated to their families.
This is an instance of the strong affection of people in the East towards the places of sepulture appropriated to their families.
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JFB: 2Sa 19:40-43 - -- Whether from impatience to move on or from some other cause, David did not wait till all the tribes had arrived to conduct him on his return to the ca...
Whether from impatience to move on or from some other cause, David did not wait till all the tribes had arrived to conduct him on his return to the capital. The procession began as soon as Amasa had brought the Judahite escort, and the preference given to this tribe produced a bitter jealousy, which was nearly kindling a civil war fiercer than that which had just ended. A war of words ensued between the tribes--Israel resting their argument on their superior numbers; "they had ten parts in the king," whereas Judah had no more than one. Judah grounded their right to take the lead, on the ground of their nearer relationship to the king. This was a claim dangerous to the house of David; and it shows the seeds were already sown for that tribal dissension which, before long, led to the dismemberment of the kingdom.
Clarke: 2Sa 19:27 - -- The king is as an angel of God - As if he had said, I state my case plainly and without guile; thou art too wise not to penetrate the motives from w...
The king is as an angel of God - As if he had said, I state my case plainly and without guile; thou art too wise not to penetrate the motives from which both myself and servant have acted. I shall make no appeal; with whatsoever thou determinest I shall rest contented.
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Clarke: 2Sa 19:29 - -- I have said, Thou and Ziba divide the land - At first, David gave the land of Saul to Mephibosheth; and Ziba, his sons, and his servants, were to wo...
I have said, Thou and Ziba divide the land - At first, David gave the land of Saul to Mephibosheth; and Ziba, his sons, and his servants, were to work that land; and to Mephibosheth, as the lord, he was to give the half of the produce. Ziba met David in his distress with provisions, and calumniated Mephibosheth: David, too slightly trusting to his misrepresentation, and supposing that Mephibosheth was actually such a traitor as Ziba represented him, made him on the spot a grant of his master’ s land. Now he finds that he has acted too rashly, and therefore confirms the former grant; i.e. that Ziba should cultivate the ground, and still continue to give to Mephibosheth, as the lord, the half of the produce. This was merely placing things in statu quo, and utterly annulling the gift that he had made to Ziba. But why did he leave this treacherous man any thing? Answer
1. He was one of the domestics of Saul, and David wished to show kindness to that house
2. He had supplied him with the necessaries of life when he was in the greatest distress; and he thinks proper to continue him in his old office, by way of remuneration
But it was certainly too great a compensation for his services, however then important, when all the circumstances are considered.
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Clarke: 2Sa 19:32 - -- Barzillai was a very aged man - This venerable person had given full proof of his attachment to David by the supplies he had given him when he lay a...
Barzillai was a very aged man - This venerable person had given full proof of his attachment to David by the supplies he had given him when he lay at Mahanaim, where his case was all but desperate; the sincerity of his congratulations now none can suspect. David’ s offer to him was at once noble and liberal: he wished to compensate such a man, and he wished to have at hand such a friend.
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Clarke: 2Sa 19:35 - -- Can thy servant taste what I eat - Here is at once an affecting description of the infirmities of old age; and a correct account of the mode of livi...
Can thy servant taste what I eat - Here is at once an affecting description of the infirmities of old age; and a correct account of the mode of living at an Eastern court in ancient times
Barzillai was fourscore years old; his ear was become dull of hearing, and his relish for his food was gone: he therefore appears to have been not only an old man, but an infirm old man. Besides delicate meats and drinks, we find that vocal music constituted a principal part of court entertainments: male and female singers made a necessary appendage to these banquets, as they do in most Eastern courts to the present day. As David was a most sublime poet, and emphatically styled the sweet singer of Israel, he no doubt had his court well supplied with vocal as well as instrumental performers; and, probably, with poets and poetesses; for it is not likely that he was the only poet of his time, though he undoubtedly was the most excellent.
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Clarke: 2Sa 19:37 - -- Thy servant Chimham - It is generally understood that this was Barzillai’ s son; and this is probable from 1Ki 2:7, where, when David was dying...
Thy servant Chimham - It is generally understood that this was Barzillai’ s son; and this is probable from 1Ki 2:7, where, when David was dying, he said, Show kindness to the sons of Barzillai: and it is very probable that this Chimham was one of them. In Jer 41:17 mention is made of the habitation of Chimham, which was near to Bethlehem; and it is reasonably conjectured that David had left that portion, which was probably a part of his paternal estate, to this son of Barzillai.
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Clarke: 2Sa 19:39 - -- The king kissed Barzillai, and blessed him - The kiss was the token of friendship and farewell; the blessing was a prayer to God for his prosperity,...
The king kissed Barzillai, and blessed him - The kiss was the token of friendship and farewell; the blessing was a prayer to God for his prosperity, probably a prophetical benediction.
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Clarke: 2Sa 19:42 - -- Wherefore then be ye angry for this matter? - We have not done this for our own advantage; we have gained nothing by it; we did it through loyal att...
Wherefore then be ye angry for this matter? - We have not done this for our own advantage; we have gained nothing by it; we did it through loyal attachment to our king.
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Clarke: 2Sa 19:43 - -- We have ten parts in the king, and - more right - We are ten tribes to one, or we are ten times so many as you; and consequently should have been co...
We have ten parts in the king, and - more right - We are ten tribes to one, or we are ten times so many as you; and consequently should have been consulted in this business
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Clarke: 2Sa 19:43 - -- The words of the men of Judah were fiercer than the words of the men of Israel - They had more weight, for they had more reason on their side
It is ...
The words of the men of Judah were fiercer than the words of the men of Israel - They had more weight, for they had more reason on their side
It is pleasant when every province, canton, district, and county, vie with each other in personal attachment to the prince, and loyal attachment to his government. From such contentions as these civil wars are never likely to arise. And how blessed it must be for the country where the king merits all this! where the prince is the pastor and father of his people, and in all things the minister of and to them for good
It is criminal in the prince not to endeavor to deserve the confidence and love of his people; and it is highly criminal in the people not to repay such endeavors with the most loyal and affectionate attachment
Where the government is not despotic, the king acts by the counsels of his ministers, and while he does so he is not chargeable with miscarriages and misfortunes; they either came through bad counsels, or directly thwarting providences. On this ground is that political maxim in our laws formed, the king can do no wrong. Sometimes God will have things otherwise than the best counsels have determined, because he sees that the results will, on the whole, be better for the peace and prosperity of that state. "God is the only Ruler of princes."And as the peace of the world depends much on civil government, hence kings and civil governors are peculiar objects of the Almighty’ s care. Wo to him who labors to bring about a general disaffection; as such things almost invariably end in general disappointment and calamity. It is much easier to unsettle than to settle; to pull down than to build up.
TSK: 2Sa 19:27 - -- slandered : 2Sa 16:3; Exo 20:16; Psa 15:3, Psa 101:5; Jer 9:4
as an angel : 2Sa 14:17, 2Sa 14:20; 1Sa 29:9
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TSK: 2Sa 19:28 - -- were : Gen 32:10
dead men : Heb. men of death, 1Sa 26:16
didst thou : 2Sa 9:7, 2Sa 9:8, 2Sa 9:10, 2Sa 9:13
to cry : 2Ki 8:3
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TSK: 2Sa 19:29 - -- Why speakest : Job 19:16, Job 19:17; Pro 18:13; Act 18:15
Thou : Deu 19:17-19; Psa 82:2, Psa 101:5
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TSK: 2Sa 19:32 - -- fourscore : Gen 5:27, Gen 9:29, Gen 25:7, Gen 47:28, Gen 50:26; Deu 34:7; Psa 90:3-10; Pro 16:31
provided : 2Sa 17:27
for he was : 1Sa 25:2; Job 1:3
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TSK: 2Sa 19:34 - -- How long have I to live : Heb. How many days are the years of my life, Gen 47:9; Job 14:14; Psa 39:5, Psa 39:6; 1Co 7:29; Jam 4:14
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TSK: 2Sa 19:35 - -- can I discern : Job 6:30, Job 12:11; Heb 5:14; 1Pe 2:3
taste : Ecc 12:1-5
I hear : Ezr 2:65; Neh 7:67; Exo 2:8, Exo 12:4
a burden : 2Sa 13:25, 2Sa 15:...
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TSK: 2Sa 19:37 - -- Let thy : The whole of this little episode is extremely interesting, and contains an affecting description of the infirmities of old age. The venerab...
Let thy : The whole of this little episode is extremely interesting, and contains an affecting description of the infirmities of old age. The venerable and kind Barzillai was fourscore years old; his ear was become dull of hearing, and his relish for even royal dainties was gonecaps1 . tcaps0 he evil days had arrived in which he was constrained to say, ""I have no pleasure in them""(Ecc 12:1). As he was too old either to enjoy the pleasures of a court, or to be of any further service to the king, he finishes his affecting address to the aged monarch with the request, that he would suffer him to enjoy what old men naturally desire, to ""die in mine own city, and be buried by the grave of my father and mother;""at the same time commending his son Chimham to his kind offices.
I may die : Gen 48:21; Jos 23:14; Luk 2:29, Luk 2:30; 2Ti 4:6; 2Pe 1:14
by the grave : Gen 47:30, Gen 49:29-31, Gen 50:13; 1Ki 13:22
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TSK: 2Sa 19:39 - -- the king : The kiss was the token of friendship and farewell; the blessing was a prayer to God for his prosperitycaps1 . pcaps0 robably a prophetical...
the king : The kiss was the token of friendship and farewell; the blessing was a prayer to God for his prosperitycaps1 . pcaps0 robably a prophetical benediction.
kissed Barzillai : Gen 31:55, Gen 45:15; Rth 1:14; 1Ki 19:20; Act 20:37; 1Th 5:26
blessed : 2Sa 6:18, 2Sa 6:20, 2Sa 13:25; Gen 14:19, Gen 28:3, Gen 47:7, Gen 47:10; Luk 2:34
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TSK: 2Sa 19:41 - -- Why have : Jdg 8:1, Jdg 12:1; Joh 7:5, Joh 7:6
stolen : 2Sa 19:3; Gen 31:26, Gen 31:27
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TSK: 2Sa 19:43 - -- We have : 2Sa 20:1, 2Sa 20:6; 1Ki 12:16
ten parts : 2Sa 5:1; Pro 13:10
despise us : Heb. set us at light
our advice : 2Sa 19:9, 2Sa 19:14; Gal 5:20, G...
We have : 2Sa 20:1, 2Sa 20:6; 1Ki 12:16
ten parts : 2Sa 5:1; Pro 13:10
despise us : Heb. set us at light
our advice : 2Sa 19:9, 2Sa 19:14; Gal 5:20, Gal 5:26; Phi 2:3
the words : Jdg 8:1, Jdg 9:23, Jdg 12:1-6; Pro 15:1, Pro 17:14, Pro 18:19; Rom 12:21; Gal 5:15, Gal 5:20; Jam 1:20, Jam 3:2-10, Jam 3:14-16, Jam 4:1-5; Whatever value or respect the men of Israel at this time professed for their king, they would not have quarrelled so fiercely about their own credit and interest in recalling him, if they had been truly sorry for their former rebellion.
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Barnes: 2Sa 19:29 - -- Unable to get to the bottom of the story, and perhaps unwilling to make an enemy of Ziba, David compromised the matter by dividing the land, thus pa...
Unable to get to the bottom of the story, and perhaps unwilling to make an enemy of Ziba, David compromised the matter by dividing the land, thus partially revoking his hasty sentence 2Sa 16:4. We still see the impatient temper of David.
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Barnes: 2Sa 19:37 - -- Chimham - From marginal references it appears that Chimham, having accepted David’ s offer, came and settled near Bethlehem. His house was...
Chimham - From marginal references it appears that Chimham, having accepted David’ s offer, came and settled near Bethlehem. His house was still called after him at the time of the captivity.
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Barnes: 2Sa 19:39 - -- The "people"is the term especially applied in this narrative to David’ s followers 2Sa 15:17; 2Sa 16:14; 2Sa 17:2; 2Sa 18:1-2; 2Sa 19:2-3. They...
The "people"is the term especially applied in this narrative to David’ s followers 2Sa 15:17; 2Sa 16:14; 2Sa 17:2; 2Sa 18:1-2; 2Sa 19:2-3. They crossed by the ford, while David and his household, accompanied by Barzillai and Chimham, came over in the ferry.
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Barnes: 2Sa 19:41 - -- It seems that David and his whole party made a halt at Gilgal 2Sa 19:15; 1Sa 11:14, and possibly made some solemn agreement there about the kingdom....
It seems that David and his whole party made a halt at Gilgal 2Sa 19:15; 1Sa 11:14, and possibly made some solemn agreement there about the kingdom. But while they were there, "all the men of Israel,"representatives from the tribes not included in "half the people of Israel"2Sa 19:40, came up in great wrath at finding that the restoration had been accomplished without consulting them, and accused the men of Judah of unfair dealing.
Poole: 2Sa 19:27 - -- As an angel of God to distinguish between true reports and calumnies: See Poole on "2Sa 14:20" .
As an angel of God to distinguish between true reports and calumnies: See Poole on "2Sa 14:20" .
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Poole: 2Sa 19:28 - -- Before my lord the king i.e. before thy tribunal: we were all at thy mercy; not my estate only, (which thou hast now granted to Ziba,) but my life al...
Before my lord the king i.e. before thy tribunal: we were all at thy mercy; not my estate only, (which thou hast now granted to Ziba,) but my life also was in thy power, if thou hadst dealt with rigour, and as earthly kings use to do with their predecessors’ and enemies’ children. For otherwise by the law of God Saul himself had not deserved to die by David’ s hands, as David himself confessed; much less his children, who were not to die for their father’ s sins, Deu 24:16 . But Mephibosheth speaks like a courtier, and like an orator, aggravating matters against himself, that he might seem to justify the king’ s sentence, and to submit to it; and so insinuate himself unto the king’ s favour.
To cry any more unto the king to wit, for the vindication of mine honour, and the restitution of my estate.
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Poole: 2Sa 19:29 - -- Why speakest thou any more of thy matters? For as Ziba was present, so doubtless he was not silent, but said and did what he could to make good his f...
Why speakest thou any more of thy matters? For as Ziba was present, so doubtless he was not silent, but said and did what he could to make good his former charge; which must needs occasion many words before the king. And the king was not now at leisure for long debates, and therefore makes an end of the matter.
I have said to wit, within myself; I have considered the matter as far as now I can, and upon the whole am come to this resolution, wherein I expect that thou and he do both acquiesce. Or, I do now say ; I pronounce this sentence in the cause.
Thou and Ziba divide the land: the meaning is either,
1. The land shall be divided between thee and him, as it was by my first order, 2Sa 9:10 ; he and his sons managing it, and supporting themselves out of it, as they did before, and giving the rest of the profits thereof to thee. And to this the following words may well enough be accommodated, Yea, let him take all, to wit, to his own sole use.
Or, 2. The right and profits of the land shall be equally divided between you. It seems a very rash and harsh sentence, and very unbecoming David’ s wisdom, and justice, and gratitude to Jonathan; and Ziba seems to have deserved death for falsely accusing his master of treason, rather than a recompence. But the whole transaction of the matter is not here set down. Possibly Ziba might bring plausible pretences to justify his accusation; and it might be pretended that Mephibosheth neglected the trimming and dressing himself only in policy, and that for a season, till David and his family had destroyed one another by their civil wars, and given him a fit opportunity to take the crown. So that David might really be at a loss what to determine. And Ziba had given proof of his affections to David by an act of kindness which could not be without hazard to himself, 2Sa 16:1,2 , which Mephibosheth had not done. And possibly this was only a present sentence, and David resolved to examine things more thoroughly when he had more leisure, and then to make a more full and final determination of the business; which also he might do, though it be not here recorded; for we must not think that nothing was done and said about such things but what is mentioned in Scripture. Besides, Ziba being a powerful man, and the crown not yet firmly fixed upon the king’ s head, David might think fit to suspend his final sentence till a more convenient season, and not now to provoke him too much by taking away all his estate from him at once, but to proceed against him by degrees. Howsoever, this is certain, we cannot pass a right judgment upon this action of David’ s, unless we understood all the circumstances of it, which we cannot pretend to do.
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Poole: 2Sa 19:30 - -- I am contented to lose all, being fully satisfied with the happiness of seeing my dear and dread sovereign restored to his crown, and truth and peac...
I am contented to lose all, being fully satisfied with the happiness of seeing my dear and dread sovereign restored to his crown, and truth and peace returned to his kingdom.
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And then to cross Jordan again, and so return to his native land.
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Poole: 2Sa 19:34 - -- Seeing my time of continuance in this world is but short, it is not advisable to change my habitation, or to give thee or myself any further trouble...
Seeing my time of continuance in this world is but short, it is not advisable to change my habitation, or to give thee or myself any further trouble.
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Poole: 2Sa 19:35 - -- My senses are grown dull, and uncapable of relishing the delights of the court. I am past taking pleasure in delicious tastes, or sweet music, and o...
My senses are grown dull, and uncapable of relishing the delights of the court. I am past taking pleasure in delicious tastes, or sweet music, and other such delights of the court. I am through age both useless and burdensome to others, and therefore most improper for a court life.
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Poole: 2Sa 19:36 - -- A little way over Jordan a little onward in thy way to Jerusalem, and then return.
Recompense it me or, recompense me , to wit, for my small kindn...
A little way over Jordan a little onward in thy way to Jerusalem, and then return.
Recompense it me or, recompense me , to wit, for my small kindness to thee at Mahanaim, which was but a part of my duty to thee.
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Poole: 2Sa 19:40 - -- Conducted the king attended upon him on his journey towards Jerusalem.
And also half the people of Israel whereas the men of Judah came entirely an...
Conducted the king attended upon him on his journey towards Jerusalem.
And also half the people of Israel whereas the men of Judah came entirely and unanimously to the king, as is noted here, and above, 2Sa 19:14 , the Israelites of the other tribes came in but slowly, and by halves, as being no less guilty of the rebellion than the tribe of Judah; but not encouraged and invited to come in by such a particular and gracious message as they were. And this is here mentioned as the occasion both of the contention here following, and of the sedition, 2Sa 20 .
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Poole: 2Sa 19:41 - -- All the men of Israel to wit, such as were present.
Stolen thee away i.e. conveyed thee over Jordan hastily and privily, not expecting nor desiring...
All the men of Israel to wit, such as were present.
Stolen thee away i.e. conveyed thee over Jordan hastily and privily, not expecting nor desiring our consent and concurrence in the business, which we were no less ready to afford than they. It is also a secret reflection upon the king, for permitting this precipitation.
All David’ s men i.e. all thy men; such changes of persons being most frequent in the Hebrew language; thy officers, and guards, and soldiers. This is mentioned as an aggravation of their fault, that they did not only carry the king over Jordan, but all his men too, without asking their advice.
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Poole: 2Sa 19:42 - -- Near of kin to us of the same tribe with us, and therefore both oweth the more respect to us, and might expect and challenge more respect from us. Ha...
Near of kin to us of the same tribe with us, and therefore both oweth the more respect to us, and might expect and challenge more respect from us. Hath he given us any gift? we have neither sought nor gained any advantage to ourselves hereby, but only discharged our duty to the king, and used all expedition in bringing him back, which you also should have done, and not have come in by halves, and so coldly as you have done. See 2Sa 19:40 .
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Poole: 2Sa 19:43 - -- We have ten parts they say but ten, though strictly there were eleven; either because they accounted Joseph (which comprehends both Ephraim and Manas...
We have ten parts they say but ten, though strictly there were eleven; either because they accounted Joseph (which comprehends both Ephraim and Manasseh under it) for one tribe, as it is sometimes reckoned; or because Simeon, whose lot lay within the tribe of Judah, were joined with them in this action.
In the king i.e. in the kingdom, and the management of the affairs of it; the word king being put for kingdom , as it is 2Ch 23:20 Isa 23:15 Dan 7:17 Hos 10:15 . Or, in the king’ s person, and the disposal thereof.
We have also more right in David than ye as in the general we have more right in the king and kingdom, so particularly we have more right in David, than you, because you were the first beginners and the most zealous promoters of this rebellion; and as David is nearest of kin to you, so he hath been most injured by you; howsoever, as he is king, we justly claim a greater interest in him than you, inasmuch as we are the far greatest part of his subjects.
That our advice should not be first had in bringing back our king that we being the far greater number, should not have the first and chiefest vote in this action. But the words are by some, and may well be, rendered interrogatively, And was not my word first about bringing the king back ? Did not we make the first mention of it, before you could be drawn to it? For so indeed they did, 2Sa 19:11 ; and therefore the neglect of their advice herein might seem more inexcusable.
The words of the men of Judah were fiercer instead of mollifying them with gentle words, they answered them with greater fierceness and insolency; so that David durst not interpose himself in the matter.
Haydock: 2Sa 19:27 - -- God. It is not necessary for me to say any more in my defence. Thou art convinced of my innocence; and the accusation was in itself improbable, as ...
God. It is not necessary for me to say any more in my defence. Thou art convinced of my innocence; and the accusation was in itself improbable, as I could never expect to be better treated by another king. I am resigned to abide by thy decision. (Haydock) ---
I cannot complain. (Calmet)
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Haydock: 2Sa 19:28 - -- Death, on account of Saul's persecution, and his sons assuming the purple; so that all his adherents might have been justly slain. (Calmet) ---
Cry...
Death, on account of Saul's persecution, and his sons assuming the purple; so that all his adherents might have been justly slain. (Calmet) ---
Cry, as if I had been wronged. (Menochius)
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Haydock: 2Sa 19:29 - -- More. Hebrew adds, "concerning thy affairs. I have said, Thou and Siba divide the inheritance." (Haydock) ---
Thou as the owner, Siba as the admi...
More. Hebrew adds, "concerning thy affairs. I have said, Thou and Siba divide the inheritance." (Haydock) ---
Thou as the owner, Siba as the administrator, or steward, as he was before. (Jun. Malv.[Junius?; Malvenda?]) ---
Sanchez thinks that David made a compensation to Miphiboseth, for what he left in the hands of his servant, as he did not wish to disturb the harmony of the day, nor to inflict any punishment on offenders. (Menochius) ---
But most interpreters accuse David of injustice, in suffering Siba to reap the fruits of his perfidy, &c. (Salien) (Calmet, &c.) ---
It is not probable, however, that he would deviate from his wonted generosity, nor suffer Miphiboseth to be injured, if he were convinced of his innocence. Perhaps he might judge it expedient that Siba should have a separate establishment, as he was now unfit to act in his former capacity, and had shewn some sort of affection towards his sovereign, when his own son, and most of his subjects, had revolted against him. (Haydock)
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Burden, as I am unfit for any service. (Menochius)
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Haydock: 2Sa 19:36 - -- With thee. He did not proceed as far as Galgal; (Haydock) but took his leave of the king, intimating, what we never witness at the present day, that...
With thee. He did not proceed as far as Galgal; (Haydock) but took his leave of the king, intimating, what we never witness at the present day, that he was too old to enjoy the pleasures of a court! (Calmet)
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Chamaam, is supposed to have been the son of the good old man. (Calmet)
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Haydock: 2Sa 19:40 - -- There; coming up, for the most part, after the king had crossed the river. They had intended to have escorted him from Mahanaim. (Haydock)
There; coming up, for the most part, after the king had crossed the river. They had intended to have escorted him from Mahanaim. (Haydock)
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Stolen; as if the king were not the common father of all. (Salien)
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Haydock: 2Sa 19:42 - -- Nearer related. (Haydock) ---
Us. What advantage have we gained? or, what have you lost? (Calmet)
Nearer related. (Haydock) ---
Us. What advantage have we gained? or, what have you lost? (Calmet)
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Haydock: 2Sa 19:43 - -- Ten parts. They might have said they were twelve tribes for one; and though the tribe of Juda was more numerous than many others, it was not equal t...
Ten parts. They might have said they were twelve tribes for one; and though the tribe of Juda was more numerous than many others, it was not equal to them all. (Calmet) ---
But the disproportion was by no means so great as ten to one; so that the Israelites unjustly pretended, that they had so much greater pretensions to the honour of bringing the king to his capital, in a sort of triumph. David might perhaps have waited a little longer, (Haydock) and shewed less predilection for his own tribe. (Calmet) (Salien) ---
But what obligation was there for either? He had been long enough from Jerusalem, and eager to return, as soon as Amasa brought to him the tribe of Juda, and several of Benjamin, ver. 16. What hindered the rest from coming in time? They seem to have pretended more loyalty than they really possessed; otherwise they would not have joined in every rebellion. (Haydock) ---
First. Hebrew may be, "did not I first propose the bringing back the king?" ver. 11. (Calmet) ---
Israel. Tostat says, it is probable Juda asserted that the king did not, at all, belong to Israel; and hence Seba repeated the words with indignation, chap. xx. 1. It is wonderful that David did not repress this altercation. Abulensis supposes that he leaned too much towards his own tribe; for which, if true, we behold he was soon chastised; as God is always ready to reward or punish his servants. (Salien) ---
But all that David said is not recorded. He could hardly have continued silent. All his endeavours to appease the sedition were, however, rendered abortive, by the evil dispositions of his subjects. (Haydock)
Gill: 2Sa 19:27 - -- And he hath slandered thy servant unto my lord the king,.... By suggesting that he stayed at Jerusalem with a view to the kingdom, hoping that the qua...
And he hath slandered thy servant unto my lord the king,.... By suggesting that he stayed at Jerusalem with a view to the kingdom, hoping that the quarrel between David and Absalom would issue in the restoration of it to his father's family; which was a mere calumny, he having had no such thought, nor was there any foundation for it:
but my lord the king is an angel of God; for understanding and wisdom, to discern the falsehood of such suggestions:
do therefore what is good in thine eyes; condemn him or acquit him; reject him or receive him into favour; he entirely submitted himself to him, to do with him as seemed good in his sight.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:28 - -- For all of my, father's house were but dead men before my lord the king,.... Or "men of death" m; worthy of death, not on account of Saul's persecuti...
For all of my, father's house were but dead men before my lord the king,.... Or "men of death" m; worthy of death, not on account of Saul's persecution, for which his family did not deserve to suffer; rather for the attempt of Ishbosheth to get the kingdom from him, which might be deemed treason, and so the family was tainted for it; though the sense may be only this, that their lives lay at his mercy, and that if he had dealt with rigour and severity towards them, as was usual for princes to do towards the family of their predecessors, who had any claim to the kingdom, put them to death, this would have been their case:
yet didst thou set thy servant among them that eat at thine own table; which was showing him great kindness, and doing him great honour:
what right therefore have I yet to cry any more unto the king? to ask any favour of him, or make any complaint to him.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:29 - -- And the king said unto him, why speakest thou any more of thy matters?.... Of his father's family, and the injuries done by them to David, and of the ...
And the king said unto him, why speakest thou any more of thy matters?.... Of his father's family, and the injuries done by them to David, and of the benefits and favours which he had received from David, or of his temporal affairs, of his estate, which David had given away to Ziba:
I have said, thou and Ziba divide the land; revoking his last grant to Ziba, which gave him all that belonged to Mephibosheth, 2Sa 16:4; he established his first decree, that Ziba should have half the profit of the land for tilling it, and the other half be given to Mephibosheth; he did not choose to punish Ziba for slandering his master, being inclined to clemency and mercy, and determined to show no severity at that time; and might be in some fear of Ziba, being a considerable man, lest he should raise a new insurrection, if he bore hard upon him; besides, he might have a large share in his affection, having made a present to him in the time of his distress, and was one of the first that came to meet him upon his return, 2Sa 19:17.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:30 - -- And Mephibosheth said unto the king, yea, let him take all,.... The whole estate, as David had given it to him; he was content that that last grant sh...
And Mephibosheth said unto the king, yea, let him take all,.... The whole estate, as David had given it to him; he was content that that last grant should stand:
forasmuch as my lord the king is come again in peace unto his own house; his palace in Jerusalem; which was a strong expression of affection for him, and loyalty to him. (Solomn used a similar test to determine which woman's baby was alive. 1Ki 3:16. He purposed the baby be cut in two to reveal who the real mother was. Likewise, David suggests the property should be divided between Ziba and Miphibosheth to determine the true loyalty of the later. 2Sa 19:29 Editor.)
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Gill: 2Sa 19:31 - -- And Barzillai the Gileadite came down from Rogelim,.... The place of his habitation, to Jordan, see 2Sa 17:27,
and went over Jordan with the king t...
And Barzillai the Gileadite came down from Rogelim,.... The place of his habitation, to Jordan, see 2Sa 17:27,
and went over Jordan with the king to conduct him over Jordan; to accompany him over the river, and then take his leave of him.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:32 - -- Now Barzillai was a very aged man, even fourscore years old,.... Which was ten years beyond the common term of man's life, and reckoned a very great ...
Now Barzillai was a very aged man, even fourscore years old,.... Which was ten years beyond the common term of man's life, and reckoned a very great age in David's time, and has been ever since, and still is, see Psa 90:10,
and he had provided the king of sustenance while he lay at Mahanaim: had supported him and his family, furnished him with provisions, and all the necessaries of life, during his stay there:
for he was a very great man; in wealth and riches, and was a very liberal man, and a man of great wisdom and good sense; and very probably was a man of great grace, which taught him his duty to his prince, and influenced him to show mercy to him in distress.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:33 - -- And the king said to Barzillai, come thou over with me,.... Over Jordan; Barzillai came with an intent to accompany the king over Jordan; but the king...
And the king said to Barzillai, come thou over with me,.... Over Jordan; Barzillai came with an intent to accompany the king over Jordan; but the king meant not only to go over Jordan, but when over to go further with him, even to Jerusalem:
and I will feed thee with me in Jerusalem; meaning, that he should dwell with him in his palace, and eat at his table, in return for feeding him at Mahanaim.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:34 - -- And Barzillai said unto the king,.... In answer to the grateful proposal he made:
how long have I to live; that could not be said with exactness by...
And Barzillai said unto the king,.... In answer to the grateful proposal he made:
how long have I to live; that could not be said with exactness by any; but it might be probably conjectured from the age he was of, and the infirmities that attended him, that he could not live long; it was but a short time he had to be in the world:
that I should go up with the king to Jerusalem? take so long a journey as that, seeing he might die before he got thither; and if he did not, since it could not be thought he should live long, he could not think of it, or judge it advisable at such an age to take such a journey, change his place of abode, and manner of living.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:35 - -- I am this day fourscore years old,.... Not that that day was precisely his birthday, but that he was about such an age, very little under or over; ve...
I am this day fourscore years old,.... Not that that day was precisely his birthday, but that he was about such an age, very little under or over; very probably he was full that age:
and can I discern between good and evil? signifying, either that his intellectual powers were impaired, and could not distinguish what was right and wrong, and so could be of no service to David in his privy council, or any court of judicature, he was fit for no post or office under him; or that his natural senses were not quick to distinguish between good and bad, particularly between good and bad food, which he could neither discern by smell nor taste, as follows:
can thy servant taste what I eat or what I drink? have any gust or relish of, or take any delight or pleasure in eating and drinking; so that the most delicious food, and richest wines, and all the dainties of a king's table, would signify nothing to him:
can I hear any more the voice of singing men and singing women? either being so deaf that he could not hear them at all, or however not with any delight; the evil days being come upon him, in which he could take no pleasure in the diversions of a court:
wherefore then should thy servant be yet a burden unto my lord the king? he could neither take any pleasure himself, nor be of any service to the king, but on the contrary a burden to him; not only on account of his sustenance, and being obliged to have servants to attend him, which might be the least part of his burden, but his company would be disagreeable and troublesome, through the infirmities of old age upon him.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:36 - -- Thy servant will go a little way over Jordan with the king,.... That is, go a little way after he was over Jordan with him, and then return to his own...
Thy servant will go a little way over Jordan with the king,.... That is, go a little way after he was over Jordan with him, and then return to his own city:
and why should the king recompense it with such a reward? the sense is, why should the king recompense so trifling a thing as I have done, and which was but my duty, with such a reward, as to maintain me in so grand a manner at his court?
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Gill: 2Sa 19:37 - -- Let thy servant, I pray thee, turn back again,.... To his own city, after he is gone ever Jordan, and seen the king a little way on his journey:
th...
Let thy servant, I pray thee, turn back again,.... To his own city, after he is gone ever Jordan, and seen the king a little way on his journey:
that I may die in my own city: the city of Rogelim, where perhaps he was born, and had lived all his days, and where it is natural for people to desire to die, even in their native place:
and be buried by the grave of my father, and of my mother: or "in" their grave, as Kimchi and Ben Melech, in the sepulchre of his fathers, where men usually choose to be buried:
but behold, thy servant Chimham: who was his son; and so the Syriac and Arabic versions express it, my son Chimham:
let him go over with my lord the king; not only over Jordan, but to Jerusalem with him:
and do to him what shall seem good unto thee; advance him, and put him into any post or office the king should think fit, or bestow a pension upon him, or give him an estate to live upon, or whatever he pleased.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:38 - -- And the king answered, Chimham shall go over with me,.... He admitted of him instead of his father:
and I will do unto him that which shall seem go...
And the king answered, Chimham shall go over with me,.... He admitted of him instead of his father:
and I will do unto him that which shall seem good unto thee; he puts it to Barzillai, and leaves it with him to ask what he would for his son, and he would grant it. We nowhere read what it was that Barzillai asked, or whether he asked anything; only this we read, that some hundreds of years afterward there was a place called the habitation of Chimham near Bethlehem, Jer 41:17; which makes it probable that David gave him a paternal estate of his there, since Bethlehem was his city; and the Targum on that place is expressly for it; See Gill on Jer 41:17,
and whatsoever thou shalt require of me, that will I do for thee; whatever suit he should make to him, or whatever favour he should ask of him hereafter, when returned to his own city, he would grant it to him, if it could be possibly done; such a sense should he always retain of his kindness to him.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:39 - -- And all the people went over Jordan,.... That were with David:
and when the king was come over; over Jordan, had got to the other side of it, whith...
And all the people went over Jordan,.... That were with David:
and when the king was come over; over Jordan, had got to the other side of it, whither Barzillai accompanied him:
the king kissed Barzillai, and blessed him; took his leave of him with a kiss, as friends were wont to do at parting, thanked him for all his favours, wished him well, and prayed to God to bless him with all blessings temporal and spiritual:
and he returned to his own place: his own city Rogelim, having crossed over again the river Jordan.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:40 - -- Then the king went on to Gilgal,.... Which, according to Josephus n, was fifty furlongs from Jordan, six miles and a quarter:
and Chimham went on w...
Then the king went on to Gilgal,.... Which, according to Josephus n, was fifty furlongs from Jordan, six miles and a quarter:
and Chimham went on with him; after Barzillai had left them, and accompanied the king to Jerusalem:
and all the people of Judah conducted the king; to Jerusalem; who came to meet him, 2Sa 19:15,
and also half the people of Israel; or a part of them, as the word used signifies, and not always an equal half, so Kimchi observes; even such of Israel as went out with David at first, and the a thousand men of Benjamin that came to meet him, 2Sa 19:17.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:41 - -- And, behold, all the men of Israel came to the king,.... A large number of them, the other part that did not come over with David, some of their princ...
And, behold, all the men of Israel came to the king,.... A large number of them, the other part that did not come over with David, some of their principal men, who met him upon the road:
and said unto the king, why have our brethren, the men of Judah, stolen thee away; secretly, privately, and unknown to them, and were bringing him back to Jerusalem:
and have brought the king, and his household, and all David's men with him, over Jordan? him, and his family, and soldiers.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:42 - -- And all the men of Judah answered the men of Israel,.... Such of them as went down to fetch the king back, replied to the men of Israel that now met t...
And all the men of Judah answered the men of Israel,.... Such of them as went down to fetch the king back, replied to the men of Israel that now met them, and objected to their conduct:
because the king is near of kin to us; being of their tribe, and his palace was within their borders, and therefore they were proper persons to bring him home:
wherefore then be ye angry for this matter? for bringing the king back, and being the first in it; for who so proper as they, not only to do their duty, but to show their affection to the king as early as possible?
have we eaten at all of the king's cost? they had maintained themselves at their own expense, going and returning; they had no self-interest or selfish views to serve, but on the contrary had been at a considerable charge to meet the king, and conduct him home:
or hath he given us any gift? no, he had not, nor did they expect any; it was not with a view to any reward that they had taken this step, but purely out of affection to the king, and for the good of their country.
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Gill: 2Sa 19:43 - -- And the men of Israel answered the men of Judah, and said,.... They replied to them, as follows:
we have ten parts in the king; being ten tribes, r...
And the men of Israel answered the men of Judah, and said,.... They replied to them, as follows:
we have ten parts in the king; being ten tribes, reckoning Simeon in the tribe of Judah, within which it lay, Jos 19:1,
and we have, also more right in David than ye; being more numerous than they; or, according to the Targum, they had more affection and good will towards David than the men of Judah, though he was of their tribe, and dwelt among them; since the rebellion was begun, and was cherished and carried on among them:
why then did ye despise us, that our advice should not be first had in bringing back our king? they were as ready and as desirous as they to fetch the king back; and since they were far the largest body of men, and the far greater part of the nation, they thought they ought to have been consulted in an affair of so much importance, and that doing it without them was slighting them, and casting contempt upon them, and insinuating as if they were enemies to the king; or, as the Targum expresses it,"was not my word first to bring back my king?''the first motion was from them, as appears from 2Sa 19:11; and therefore the thing should not have been done without them; they should have been apprized of it, that they might at least have joined them, and shared in the honour with them of bringing the king back:
and the words of the men of Judah were fiercer than the words of the men of Israel; not those that are here recorded, but what followed, and are not written, being so very warm and indecent; and David being silent in this hot dispute between them, which was interpreted taking the part of Judah, the men of Israel were incensed at it; and hence arose a new rebellion, of which more in the next chapter how it began, and was crushed.
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NET Notes: 2Sa 19:40 The translation follows the Qere and many medieval Hebrew mss in reading the Hiphil verb הֶעֱבִיר...
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NET Notes: 2Sa 19:43 The translation understands the verb in a desiderative sense, indicating the desire but not necessarily the completed action of the party in question....
Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:27 And he hath slandered thy servant unto my lord the king; but my lord the king [is] as an ( m ) angel of God: do therefore [what is] good in thine eyes...
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Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:28 For all [of] my father's house were ( n ) but dead men before my lord the king: yet didst thou set thy servant among them that did eat at thine own ta...
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Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:29 And the king said unto him, Why speakest thou any more of thy matters? I have said, Thou and Ziba divide the ( o ) land.
( o ) David did evil in taki...
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Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:35 I [am] this day fourscore years old: [and] can I discern between good and evil? can thy servant taste what I eat or what I drink? can I hear any more ...
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Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:37 Let thy servant, I pray thee, turn back again, that I may die in mine own city, [and be buried] by the grave of my father and of my mother. But behold...
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Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:40 Then the king went on to ( r ) Gilgal, and Chimham went on with him: and all the people of Judah conducted the king, and also half the people of ( s )...
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Geneva Bible: 2Sa 19:41 And, behold, all the men of Israel came to the king, and said unto the king, Why have our brethren the men of Judah stolen thee away, and have brought...
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TSK Synopsis -> 2Sa 19:1-43
TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 19:1-43 - --1 Joab causes the king to cease his mourning.9 The Israelites are earnest to bring the king back.11 David sends to the priests to incite them of Judah...
Maclaren -> 2Sa 19:34-37
Maclaren: 2Sa 19:34-37 - --2 Samuel 19:34-37
People often fancy that religion is only good to die by, and many exhortations are addressed to the young, founded on the possibilit...
MHCC: 2Sa 19:24-30 - --David recalls the forfeiture of Mephibosheth's estate; and he expressed joy for the king's return. A good man contentedly bears his own losses, while ...
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MHCC: 2Sa 19:31-39 - --Barzillai thought he had done himself honour in doing the king any service. Thus, when the saints shall be called to inherit the kingdom, they will be...
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MHCC: 2Sa 19:40-43 - --The men of Israel though themselves despised, and the fiercer words of the men of Judah produced very bad effects. Much evil might be avoided, if men ...
Matthew Henry: 2Sa 19:24-30 - -- The day of David's return was a day of bringing to remembrance, a day of account, in which what had passed in his flight was called over again; amon...
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Matthew Henry: 2Sa 19:31-39 - -- David had already graced the triumphs of his restoration with the generous remission of the injuries that had been done to him; we have him here gra...
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Matthew Henry: 2Sa 19:40-43 - -- David came over Jordan attended and assisted only by the men of Judah; but when he had advanced as far as Gilgal, the first stage on this side Jorda...
Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 19:24-30 - --
David's conduct towards Mephibosheth admits still less of justification.
2Sa 19:24
Mephibosheth, the son, i.e., grandson, of Saul, had also come...
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Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 19:31-39 - --
Barzillai comes to greet David. - 2Sa 19:31. Barzillai the octogenarian "had also come down from Roglim and gone across the Jordan with the king, t...
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Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 19:40-43 - --
Quarrel between Israel and Judah about the restoration of the king. - 2Sa 19:40. David went across to Gilgal (in the plain of the Jordan: Jos 4:19)...
Constable: 2Sa 9:1--20:26 - --VI. DAVID'S TROUBLES chs. 9--20
Chapters 9-20 contrast with chapters 2-8 in that this later section is negative ...
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Constable: 2Sa 13:1--20:26 - --C. David's Rejection and Return chs. 13-20
This is the longest literary section in the Court History of ...
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Constable: 2Sa 15:1--20:26 - --2. Absalom's attempt to usurp David's throne chs. 15-20
Absalom was never Yahweh's choice to suc...
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