
Text -- 2 Thessalonians 3:11 (NET)




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Robertson -> 2Th 3:11
Robertson: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear ( akouomen gar ).
Fresh news from Thessalonica evidently. For the present tense compare 1Co 11:18. The accusative and the participle is a...
For we hear (
Fresh news from Thessalonica evidently. For the present tense compare 1Co 11:18. The accusative and the participle is a regular idiom for indirect discourse with this verb (Robertson, Grammar , pp. 1040-2). Three picturesque present participles, the first a general description,
Vincent -> 2Th 3:11
Vincent: 2Th 3:11 - -- Working not at all - busybodies ( μηδὲν ἐργαζομένους - περιεργαζομένους )
One of Paul's frequent wordp...
Working not at all - busybodies (
One of Paul's frequent wordplays. See on reprobate mind , Rom 1:28. Not busy, but busybodies.
Wesley -> 2Th 3:11
To which idleness naturally disposes.
JFB -> 2Th 3:11
JFB: 2Th 3:11 - -- In the Greek the similarity of sound marks the antithesis, "Doing none of their own business, yet overdoing in the business of others." Busy about eve...
In the Greek the similarity of sound marks the antithesis, "Doing none of their own business, yet overdoing in the business of others." Busy about everyone's business but their own. "Nature abhors a vacuum"; so if not doing one's own business, one is apt to meddle with his neighbor's business. Idleness is the parent of busybodies (1Ti 5:13). Contrast 1Th 4:11.
Clarke: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear that there are some - It is very likely that St. Paul kept up some sort of correspondence with the Thessalonian Church; for he had heard...
For we hear that there are some - It is very likely that St. Paul kept up some sort of correspondence with the Thessalonian Church; for he had heard every thing that concerned their state, and it was from this information that he wrote his second epistle

Disorderly -

Clarke: 2Th 3:11 - -- Working not at all - Either lounging at home, or becoming religious gossips; μηδεν εργαζομενους, doing nothing
Working not at all - Either lounging at home, or becoming religious gossips;

Clarke: 2Th 3:11 - -- Busybodies - Περιεργαζομενους· Doing every thing they should not do - impertinent meddlers with other people’ s business; pr...
Busybodies -
Calvin -> 2Th 3:11
Calvin: 2Th 3:11 - -- 11.We hear that there are some among you. It is probable that this kind of drones were, as it were, the seed of idle monkhood. For, from the very beg...
11.We hear that there are some among you. It is probable that this kind of drones were, as it were, the seed of idle monkhood. For, from the very beginning, there were some who, under pretext of religion, either made free with the tables of others, or craftily drew to themselves the substance of the simple. They had also, even in the time of Augustine, come to prevail so much, that he was constrained to write a book expressly against idle monks, where he complains with good reason of their pride, because, despising the admonition of the Apostle, they not only excuse themselves on the ground of infirmity, but they wish to appear holier than all others, on the ground that they are exempt from labors. He inveighs, with good reason, against this unseemliness, that, while the senators are laborious, the workman, or person in humble life, does not merely live in idleness, 716 but would fain have his indolence pass for sanctity. Such are his views. 717 In the mean time, however, the evil has increased to such an extent, that idle bellies occupy nearly the tenth part of the world, whose only religion is to be well stuffed, and to have exemption from all annoyance 718 of labor. And this manner of life they dignify, sometimes with the name of the Order, sometimes with that of the Rule, of this or that personage. 719
But what does the Spirit say, on the other hand, by the mouth of Paul? He pronounces them all to be irregular and disorderly, by whatever name of distinction they may be dignified. It is not necessary to relate here how much the idle life of monks has invariably displeased persons of sounder judgment. That is a memorable saying of an old monk, which is recorded by Socrates in the Eighth Book of the Tripartite History — that he who does not labor with his hands is like a plunderer. 720 I do not mention other instances, nor is it necessary. Let this statement of the Apostle suffice us, in which he declares that they are dissolute, and in a manner lawless.
Doing nothing. In the Greek participles there is, an elegant (
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Barnes -> 2Th 3:11
Barnes: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear - It is not known in what way this was made known to Paul, whether by Timothy, or by some other one. He had no doubt of its truth, ...
For we hear - It is not known in what way this was made known to Paul, whether by Timothy, or by some other one. He had no doubt of its truth, and he seems to have been prepared to believe it the more readily from what he saw when he was among them.
Which walk disorderly - See the notes, 2Th 3:6.
But are busy-bodies - Compare the 1Ti 5:13 note; 1Pe 4:15 note. That is, they meddled with the affairs of others - a thing which they who have nothing of their own to busy themselves about will be very likely to do. The apostle had seen that there was a tendency to his when he was in Thessalonica, and hence he had commanded them to "do their own business;"1Th 4:11. The injunction, it seems, had availed little, for there is no class of persons who will heed good counsel so little as those who have a propensity to intermeddle with the affairs of others. One of the indispensable things to check this is, that each one should have enough to do himself; and one of the most pestiferous of all persons is he who has nothing to do but to look after the affairs of his neighbors. In times of affliction and want, we should be ready to lend our aid. At other times, we should feel that he can manage his own affairs as well as we can do it for him; or if he cannot, it is his business, not ours. The Greek word used occurs only here, and in 1Ti 5:13; compare the notes on Phi 2:4.
Poole -> 2Th 3:11
Poole: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear: the apostle gives the reason of this discourse he fell into about disorder, and commends, yea, commands, a remedy against it. He had hea...
For we hear: the apostle gives the reason of this discourse he fell into about disorder, and commends, yea, commands, a remedy against it. He had heard of this disorderly walking, else his discourse might have been esteemed vain and needless. Reports are to obtain credit according to the quality of the person that makes them, his end therein, and probability of truth. He took notice of reports brought to him about the divisions that were at Corinth, 1Co 11:18 .
That there are some among you: and the persons that he here chargeth the report upon, are not all, but some only, and he nameth none; for as to the body of the church, he had confidence they did, and would do, the things he commanded, 2Th 3:4 . And he requires them to withdraw from the disorderly.
Which walk among you disorderly, working not at all: and the disorder he chargeth upon these some is:
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2. But are busybodies busy, and yet idle, and not working;
Gill -> 2Th 3:11
Gill: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear that there are some,.... This is the reason of the order or command given in 2Th 3:6 for withdrawing from disorderly persons. When the apo...
For we hear that there are some,.... This is the reason of the order or command given in 2Th 3:6 for withdrawing from disorderly persons. When the apostle was with them, he observed that there were idle persons among them, and therefore gave orders then, that if they would not work, they should not eat; and in his former epistle, having intelligence that there were still such persons among them, he exhorts them to their duty, and puts the church upon admonishing them; and still information is given him, that there were some such persons yet among them; for as the apostle had the care of all the churches upon him, so he kept a correspondence with them, and by one means or another, by sending messengers to them, or by receiving letters from those he corresponded with, he learned the state of them; and his information was generally good, and what might be depended upon; see 1Co 1:11 as it was in this case relating to some persons: which walk among you disorderly; and who they were, and which also explains 2Th 3:6, are immediately observed: working not at all; at their callings, trades, and businesses in which they were brought up, but lived an idle and lazy life: and this was walking disorderly indeed, even contrary to the order of things before the fall, when man was in a state of innocence; for before sin entered into the world, Adam was put into the garden of Eden to keep and dress it; man was created an active creature, and made for work and business; and to live without, is contrary to the order of creation, as well as to the order of civil societies, and of religious ones, or churches, and even what irrational creatures do not.
But are busy bodies; though they work not at all at their own business, yet are very busy in other men's matters, and have the affairs of kingdoms, and cities, and towns, and neighbourhoods, and churches, and families, upon their hands; which they thrust themselves into, and intermeddle with, though they have no business at all with them: these wander from house to house, and curiously inquire into personal and family affairs, are tattlers, full of prate and talk, and, like the Athenians, spend all their time in telling or hearing new things; and they also speak things which they should not; they carry tales from one to another, and privately whisper things to the disadvantage of their fellow creatures and Christians, and backbite and slander them. These are the pests of nations and neighbourhoods, the plagues of churches, and the scandal of human nature; see 1Ti 5:13.

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NET Notes: 2Th 3:11 There is a play on words in the Greek: “working at nothing, but working around,” “not keeping busy but being busybodies.”
Geneva Bible -> 2Th 3:11
Geneva Bible: 2Th 3:11 For we hear that there are some which walk among ( 7 ) you disorderly, working not at all, ( 8 ) but are busybodies.
( 7 ) How great a fault idleness...

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TSK Synopsis -> 2Th 3:1-18
TSK Synopsis: 2Th 3:1-18 - --1 Paul craves their prayers for himself;3 testifies what confidence he has in them;5 makes request to God in their behalf;6 gives them divers precepts...
MHCC -> 2Th 3:6-15
MHCC: 2Th 3:6-15 - --Those who have received the gospel, are to live according to the gospel. Such as could work, and would not, were not to be maintained in idleness. Chr...
Matthew Henry -> 2Th 3:6-15
Matthew Henry: 2Th 3:6-15 - -- The apostle having commended their obedience for the time past, and mentioned his confidence in their obedience for the time to come, proceeds to gi...
Barclay -> 2Th 3:6-18
Barclay: 2Th 3:6-18 - --Here Paul is dealing, as he had to deal in the previous letter, with the situation produced by those who took the wrong attitude to the Second Comin...
Constable -> 2Th 3:6-15; 2Th 3:11-13
Constable: 2Th 3:6-15 - --B. Church discipline 3:6-15
The false teaching that had entered the church had produced some inappropria...
