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Text -- 2 Thessalonians 3:11 (NET)

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3:11 For we hear that some among you are living an undisciplined life, not doing their own work but meddling in the work of others.
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Robertson: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear ( akouomen gar ). Fresh news from Thessalonica evidently. For the present tense compare 1Co 11:18. The accusative and the participle is a...

For we hear ( akouomen gar ).

Fresh news from Thessalonica evidently. For the present tense compare 1Co 11:18. The accusative and the participle is a regular idiom for indirect discourse with this verb (Robertson, Grammar , pp. 1040-2). Three picturesque present participles, the first a general description, peripatountas ataktōs , the other two specifying with a vivid word-play, that work not at all, but are busy-bodies (mēden ergazomenous alla periergazomenous ). Literally, doing nothing but doing around. Ellicott suggests, doing no business but being busy bodies. "The first persecution at Thessalonica had been fostered by a number of fanatical loungers (Act 17:5)"(Moffatt). These theological dead-beats were too pious to work, but perfectly willing to eat at the hands of their neighbours while they piddled and frittered away the time in idleness.

Vincent: 2Th 3:11 - -- Working not at all - busybodies ( μηδὲν ἐργαζομένους - περιεργαζομένους ) One of Paul's frequent wordp...

Working not at all - busybodies ( μηδὲν ἐργαζομένους - περιεργαζομένους )

One of Paul's frequent wordplays. See on reprobate mind , Rom 1:28. Not busy, but busybodies. Περιεργάζεσθαι (N.T.o .) is to bustle about a thing: here, to be officious in others' affairs . See on τὰ περίεργα curious arts , Act 19:19, and see on 1Ti 5:13.

Wesley: 2Th 3:11 - -- To which idleness naturally disposes.

To which idleness naturally disposes.

JFB: 2Th 3:11 - -- In the Greek the similarity of sound marks the antithesis, "Doing none of their own business, yet overdoing in the business of others." Busy about eve...

In the Greek the similarity of sound marks the antithesis, "Doing none of their own business, yet overdoing in the business of others." Busy about everyone's business but their own. "Nature abhors a vacuum"; so if not doing one's own business, one is apt to meddle with his neighbor's business. Idleness is the parent of busybodies (1Ti 5:13). Contrast 1Th 4:11.

Clarke: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear that there are some - It is very likely that St. Paul kept up some sort of correspondence with the Thessalonian Church; for he had heard...

For we hear that there are some - It is very likely that St. Paul kept up some sort of correspondence with the Thessalonian Church; for he had heard every thing that concerned their state, and it was from this information that he wrote his second epistle

Clarke: 2Th 3:11 - -- Disorderly - Ατακτως· Out of their rank - not keeping their own place

Disorderly - Ατακτως· Out of their rank - not keeping their own place

Clarke: 2Th 3:11 - -- Working not at all - Either lounging at home, or becoming religious gossips; μηδεν εργαζομενους, doing nothing

Working not at all - Either lounging at home, or becoming religious gossips; μηδεν εργαζομενους, doing nothing

Clarke: 2Th 3:11 - -- Busybodies - Περιεργαζομενους· Doing every thing they should not do - impertinent meddlers with other people’ s business; pr...

Busybodies - Περιεργαζομενους· Doing every thing they should not do - impertinent meddlers with other people’ s business; prying into other people’ s circumstances and domestic affairs; magnifying or minifying, mistaking or underrating, every thing; newsmongers and telltales; an abominable race, the curse of every neighborhood where they live, and a pest to religious society. There is a fine paronomasia in the above words, and evidently intended by the apostle.

Calvin: 2Th 3:11 - -- 11.We hear that there are some among you. It is probable that this kind of drones were, as it were, the seed of idle monkhood. For, from the very beg...

11.We hear that there are some among you. It is probable that this kind of drones were, as it were, the seed of idle monkhood. For, from the very beginning, there were some who, under pretext of religion, either made free with the tables of others, or craftily drew to themselves the substance of the simple. They had also, even in the time of Augustine, come to prevail so much, that he was constrained to write a book expressly against idle monks, where he complains with good reason of their pride, because, despising the admonition of the Apostle, they not only excuse themselves on the ground of infirmity, but they wish to appear holier than all others, on the ground that they are exempt from labors. He inveighs, with good reason, against this unseemliness, that, while the senators are laborious, the workman, or person in humble life, does not merely live in idleness, 716 but would fain have his indolence pass for sanctity. Such are his views. 717 In the mean time, however, the evil has increased to such an extent, that idle bellies occupy nearly the tenth part of the world, whose only religion is to be well stuffed, and to have exemption from all annoyance 718 of labor. And this manner of life they dignify, sometimes with the name of the Order, sometimes with that of the Rule, of this or that personage. 719

But what does the Spirit say, on the other hand, by the mouth of Paul? He pronounces them all to be irregular and disorderly, by whatever name of distinction they may be dignified. It is not necessary to relate here how much the idle life of monks has invariably displeased persons of sounder judgment. That is a memorable saying of an old monk, which is recorded by Socrates in the Eighth Book of the Tripartite History — that he who does not labor with his hands is like a plunderer. 720 I do not mention other instances, nor is it necessary. Let this statement of the Apostle suffice us, in which he declares that they are dissolute, and in a manner lawless.

Doing nothing. In the Greek participles there is, an elegant (προσωνομασία) play upon words, which I have attempted in some manner to imitate, by rendering it as meaning that they do nothing, but have enough to do in the way of curiosity. 721 He censures, however, a fault with which idle persons are, for the most part, chargeable, that, by unseasonably bustling about, they give trouble to themselves and to others. For we see, that those who have nothing to do are much more fatigued by doing nothing, than if they were employing themselves in some very important work; they run hither and thither; wherever they go, they have the appearance of great fatigue; they gather all sorts of reports, and they put them in a confused way into circulation. You would say that they bore the weight of a kingdom upon their shoulders. Could there be a more remarkable exemplification of this than there is in the monks? For what class of men have less repose? Where does curiosity reign more extensively? Now, as this disease has a ruinous effect upon the public, Paul admonishes that it ought not to be encouraged by idleness.

TSK: 2Th 3:11 - -- walk : 2Th 3:6 working : 1Th 4:11; 1Ti 5:13; 1Pe 4:15

walk : 2Th 3:6

working : 1Th 4:11; 1Ti 5:13; 1Pe 4:15

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Barnes: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear - It is not known in what way this was made known to Paul, whether by Timothy, or by some other one. He had no doubt of its truth, ...

For we hear - It is not known in what way this was made known to Paul, whether by Timothy, or by some other one. He had no doubt of its truth, and he seems to have been prepared to believe it the more readily from what he saw when he was among them.

Which walk disorderly - See the notes, 2Th 3:6.

But are busy-bodies - Compare the 1Ti 5:13 note; 1Pe 4:15 note. That is, they meddled with the affairs of others - a thing which they who have nothing of their own to busy themselves about will be very likely to do. The apostle had seen that there was a tendency to his when he was in Thessalonica, and hence he had commanded them to "do their own business;"1Th 4:11. The injunction, it seems, had availed little, for there is no class of persons who will heed good counsel so little as those who have a propensity to intermeddle with the affairs of others. One of the indispensable things to check this is, that each one should have enough to do himself; and one of the most pestiferous of all persons is he who has nothing to do but to look after the affairs of his neighbors. In times of affliction and want, we should be ready to lend our aid. At other times, we should feel that he can manage his own affairs as well as we can do it for him; or if he cannot, it is his business, not ours. The Greek word used occurs only here, and in 1Ti 5:13; compare the notes on Phi 2:4.

Poole: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear: the apostle gives the reason of this discourse he fell into about disorder, and commends, yea, commands, a remedy against it. He had hea...

For we hear: the apostle gives the reason of this discourse he fell into about disorder, and commends, yea, commands, a remedy against it. He had heard of this disorderly walking, else his discourse might have been esteemed vain and needless. Reports are to obtain credit according to the quality of the person that makes them, his end therein, and probability of truth. He took notice of reports brought to him about the divisions that were at Corinth, 1Co 11:18 .

That there are some among you: and the persons that he here chargeth the report upon, are not all, but some only, and he nameth none; for as to the body of the church, he had confidence they did, and would do, the things he commanded, 2Th 3:4 . And he requires them to withdraw from the disorderly.

Which walk among you disorderly, working not at all: and the disorder he chargeth upon these some is:

1. Mhden ergazomenouv , that they worked not at all, at least not the work of their own place, as it follows.

2. But are busybodies busy, and yet idle, and not working; periergazomenouv curieusement, French Bible; as the curious arts of sorcerers are called perierga , Act 19:19 . The word signifies working about, and denotes either vain curiosity, meddling in matters that they ought not, or going round their proper work, but not falling or fixing upon it. The same the apostle speaks of younger widows, 1Ti 5:13 , who learnt to be idle, and yet were busybodies; and such are called allotrioepiskopoi , 1Pe 4:15 . And the one follows from the other; for they that are idle and neglect their own business will be apt to intermeddle in another’ s: and they that are not keepers at home, will be gadders abroad, and so not eat their own, but others’ bread, which the apostle here reproves, as dishonourable to the Christian profession; and, as a further remedy, doth with much earnestness address his speech particularly to them.

Gill: 2Th 3:11 - -- For we hear that there are some,.... This is the reason of the order or command given in 2Th 3:6 for withdrawing from disorderly persons. When the apo...

For we hear that there are some,.... This is the reason of the order or command given in 2Th 3:6 for withdrawing from disorderly persons. When the apostle was with them, he observed that there were idle persons among them, and therefore gave orders then, that if they would not work, they should not eat; and in his former epistle, having intelligence that there were still such persons among them, he exhorts them to their duty, and puts the church upon admonishing them; and still information is given him, that there were some such persons yet among them; for as the apostle had the care of all the churches upon him, so he kept a correspondence with them, and by one means or another, by sending messengers to them, or by receiving letters from those he corresponded with, he learned the state of them; and his information was generally good, and what might be depended upon; see 1Co 1:11 as it was in this case relating to some persons: which walk among you disorderly; and who they were, and which also explains 2Th 3:6, are immediately observed: working not at all; at their callings, trades, and businesses in which they were brought up, but lived an idle and lazy life: and this was walking disorderly indeed, even contrary to the order of things before the fall, when man was in a state of innocence; for before sin entered into the world, Adam was put into the garden of Eden to keep and dress it; man was created an active creature, and made for work and business; and to live without, is contrary to the order of creation, as well as to the order of civil societies, and of religious ones, or churches, and even what irrational creatures do not.

But are busy bodies; though they work not at all at their own business, yet are very busy in other men's matters, and have the affairs of kingdoms, and cities, and towns, and neighbourhoods, and churches, and families, upon their hands; which they thrust themselves into, and intermeddle with, though they have no business at all with them: these wander from house to house, and curiously inquire into personal and family affairs, are tattlers, full of prate and talk, and, like the Athenians, spend all their time in telling or hearing new things; and they also speak things which they should not; they carry tales from one to another, and privately whisper things to the disadvantage of their fellow creatures and Christians, and backbite and slander them. These are the pests of nations and neighbourhoods, the plagues of churches, and the scandal of human nature; see 1Ti 5:13.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 2Th 3:11 There is a play on words in the Greek: “working at nothing, but working around,” “not keeping busy but being busybodies.”

Geneva Bible: 2Th 3:11 For we hear that there are some which walk among ( 7 ) you disorderly, working not at all, ( 8 ) but are busybodies. ( 7 ) How great a fault idleness...

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TSK Synopsis: 2Th 3:1-18 - --1 Paul craves their prayers for himself;3 testifies what confidence he has in them;5 makes request to God in their behalf;6 gives them divers precepts...

MHCC: 2Th 3:6-15 - --Those who have received the gospel, are to live according to the gospel. Such as could work, and would not, were not to be maintained in idleness. Chr...

Matthew Henry: 2Th 3:6-15 - -- The apostle having commended their obedience for the time past, and mentioned his confidence in their obedience for the time to come, proceeds to gi...

Barclay: 2Th 3:6-18 - --Here Paul is dealing, as he had to deal in the previous letter, with the situation produced by those who took the wrong attitude to the Second Comin...

Constable: 2Th 3:6-15 - --B. Church discipline 3:6-15 The false teaching that had entered the church had produced some inappropria...

Constable: 2Th 3:11-13 - --2. Specific instructions concerning the idle 3:11-13 3:11 The teaching that Christ could return at any moment had led some of the believers into idlen...

College: 2Th 3:1-18 - --2 THESSALONIANS 3 V. EXHORTATIONS (3:1-16) As in most of his letters, Paul ends 2 Thessalonians with a series of instructions and exhortations as to...

McGarvey: 2Th 3:11 - --For we hear [probably by the returning messenger who carried his first epistle] of some that walk among you disorderly, that work not at all, but are ...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) Second Thessalonians From Corinth a.d. 50 Or 51 By Way of Introduction It is plain that First Thessalonians did not settle all the difficulties ...

JFB: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) Its GENUINENESS is attested by POLYCARP [Epistle to the Philippians, 11], who alludes to 2Th 3:15. JUSTIN MARTYR [Dialogue with Trypho, p. 193.32], al...

JFB: 2 Thessalonians (Outline) ADDRESS AND SALUTATION: INTRODUCTION: THANKSGIVING FOR THEIR GROWTH IN FAITH AND LOVE, AND FOR THEIR PATIENCE IN PERSECUTIONS, WHICH ARE A TOKEN FOR ...

TSK: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) The First Epistle to the Thessalonians, it is generally agreed, was the earliest written of all St. Paul’s epistles, whence we see the reason and pr...

TSK: 2 Thessalonians 3 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 2Th 3:1, Paul craves their prayers for himself; 2Th 3:3, testifies what confidence he has in them; 2Th 3:5, makes request to God in their...

Poole: 2 Thessalonians 3 (Chapter Introduction) THESSALONIANS CHAPTER 3

MHCC: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) The second epistle to the Thessalonians was written soon after the first. The apostle was told that, from some expressions in his first letter, many e...

MHCC: 2 Thessalonians 3 (Chapter Introduction) (2Th 3:1-5) The apostle expresses confidence in the Thessalonians, and prays for them. (2Th 3:6-15) He charges them to withdraw from disorderly walke...

Matthew Henry: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Second Epistle of St. Paul to the Thessalonians This Second Epistle was written soon after the form...

Matthew Henry: 2 Thessalonians 3 (Chapter Introduction) In the close of the foregoing chapter, the apostle had prayed earnestly for the Thessalonians, and now he desires their prayers, encouraging them t...

Barclay: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) A GENERAL INTRODUCTION TO THE LETTERS OF PAUL The Letters Of Paul There is no more interesting body of documents in the New Testament than the letter...

Barclay: 2 Thessalonians 3 (Chapter Introduction) A Final Word (2Th_3:1-5) Discipline In Brotherly Love (2Th_3:6-18)

Constable: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) Introduction Historical background This epistle contains evidence that Paul had recent...

Constable: 2 Thessalonians (Outline)

Constable: 2 Thessalonians 2 Thessalonians Bibliography Barclay, William. The Letters to the Philippians, Colossians and Thessalonians. Da...

Haydock: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) THE SECOND EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL, THE APOSTLE, TO THE THESSALONIANS. INTRODUCTION. In this epistle St. Paul admonishes the Thessalonians to be c...

Gill: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 THESSALONIANS This second epistle was written, not from Athens, as the subscription testifies, nor from Rome, as Athanasius a sup...

Gill: 2 Thessalonians 3 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 THESSALONIANS 3 In this chapter the apostle requests of the Thessalonians, that they would pray for him, and other Gospel ministe...

College: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION The pressures of persecution, apparent in 1 Thessalonians, have intensified in this letter. In its three brief chapters the reader perce...

College: 2 Thessalonians (Outline) OUTLINE I. GREETING - 1:1-2 II. OPENING THANKSGIVING, ENCOURAGEMENT AND PRAYER - 1:3-12 A. Thanksgiving for the Thessalonians' Growth and Endu...

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