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Text -- Ecclesiastes 4:16 (NET)

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4:16 There is no end to all the people nor to the past generations, yet future generations will not rejoice in him. This also is profitless and like chasing the wind.
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Wesley: Ecc 4:16 - -- This humour of the common people hath no end, but passes from one generation to another.

This humour of the common people hath no end, but passes from one generation to another.

Wesley: Ecc 4:16 - -- Before the present generation. And so here are three generations of people noted, the authors of the present change, and their parents, and their chil...

Before the present generation. And so here are three generations of people noted, the authors of the present change, and their parents, and their children; and all are observed to have the same inclinations.

Wesley: Ecc 4:16 - -- They shall be as weary of the successor, though a wise and worthy prince, as their parents were of his foolish predecessor.

They shall be as weary of the successor, though a wise and worthy prince, as their parents were of his foolish predecessor.

JFB: Ecc 4:16 - -- Notwithstanding their now worshipping the rising sun, the heir-apparent, I reflected that "there were no bounds, no stability (2Sa 15:6; 2Sa 20:1), no...

Notwithstanding their now worshipping the rising sun, the heir-apparent, I reflected that "there were no bounds, no stability (2Sa 15:6; 2Sa 20:1), no check on the love of innovation, of all that have been before them," that is, the past generation; so

JFB: Ecc 4:16 - -- That is, the next generation,

That is, the next generation,

JFB: Ecc 4:16 - -- Namely, Rehoboam. The parallel, "shall not rejoice," fixes the sense of "no bounds," no permanent adherence, though now men rejoice in him.

Namely, Rehoboam. The parallel, "shall not rejoice," fixes the sense of "no bounds," no permanent adherence, though now men rejoice in him.

Clarke: Ecc 4:16 - -- There is no end of all the people - This is supposed to refer to the multitudes of people who hail the advent and accession of a new sovereign; for,...

There is no end of all the people - This is supposed to refer to the multitudes of people who hail the advent and accession of a new sovereign; for, as Suetonius remarks, A plerisque adorari solem orientem, "Most people adore the rising sun."But when the new king becomes old, very few regard him; and perhaps he lives long enough to be as much despised by the very persons who before were ready to worship him. This is also a miserable vanity. Thus the blooming heir: -

"Shall feel the sad reverse: honored awhile

Then, like his sire, contemn’ d, abhorr’ d, forgot.

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TSK: Ecc 4:16 - -- no end : 2Sa 15:12, 2Sa 15:13; 1Ki 1:5-7, 1Ki 1:40, 1Ki 12:10-16 they also : Jdg 9:19, Jdg 9:20; 2Sa 18:7, 2Sa 18:8, 2Sa 19:9 this : Ecc 1:14, Ecc 2:1...

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Ecc 4:13-16 - -- These verses set forth the vanity of earthly prosperity even on a throne. Opinion as to their application is chiefly divided between considering the...

These verses set forth the vanity of earthly prosperity even on a throne. Opinion as to their application is chiefly divided between considering them a parable or fiction like that of the childless man in Ecc 4:8 : or as setting forth first the vicissitudes of royal life in two proverbial sayings Ecc 4:13-14, and then Ecc 4:15-16, the vicissitudes or procession of the whole human race, one generation giving place to another, Which in its turn will be forgotten by its successor. On the whole, the first appears to have the better claim.

Ecc 4:13

Child - Rather, young man.

Ecc 4:14

Rather: For out of the house of bondage he goes forth to be a king; although he was born poor in his kingdom, i. e., in the country over which he became king.

Ecc 4:15

I considered ... - literally, I saw "all the population of the young man’ s kingdom."

The second child - This second youth is generally understood to be identical with the one mentioned in Ecc 4:13.

Ecc 4:16

There is - Rather: There was.

That have been before them - Rather, before whom he was, i. e., at the head of whom the young king was. Compare Mic 2:13.

They also that ... him - i. e., The next generation shall forget this chosen king.

Poole: Ecc 4:16 - -- There is no end of all the people: the sense is either, 1. The people which have this humour are without end, or innumerable, as this phrase signifi...

There is no end of all the people: the sense is either,

1. The people which have this humour are without end, or innumerable, as this phrase signifies, Job 22:5 Isa 2:7 9:7 . Or,

2. This humour of the common people hath no end, but passeth from one generation to another; they ever were, and are, and will be unstable and restless, and given to change; which sense the following words seem to favour.

Before them either,

1. Before the two kings above mentioned, the father and the son, or the predecessor and successor. All those who stood or desired to stand in their presence, and waited upon them, as this phrase is used, 2Sa 16:19 1Ki 10:8 . Or rather,

2. Before the present generation of subjects, who earnestly desired and promoted the change of government here expressed; for these are evidently opposed to them that come after , which all interpreters understand of the people, not of the kings. And so here are three generations of people noted, the authors of the present change, and their parents, and their children, and all are observed to have the same inclinations in these matters.

Shall not rejoice in him they shall be as weary of the successor, though a wise and worthy prince, as their parents were of his foolish predecessor; the reason whereof is partly from that itch of novelty and curiosity which is natural and common to mankind, and partly from their vain and foolish hopes of advantage from such changes.

Haydock: Ecc 4:16 - -- In him. Many are perfectly unacquainted with the king, who finds so many admirers about his person, and even of these the greatest part begin to be ...

In him. Many are perfectly unacquainted with the king, who finds so many admirers about his person, and even of these the greatest part begin to be presently disgusted, and wish for another change.

Gill: Ecc 4:16 - -- There is no end of all the people, even of all that have been before them,.... Before the present generation, the living that walked under the sun; ...

There is no end of all the people, even of all that have been before them,.... Before the present generation, the living that walked under the sun; a vast number they were that lived before them, and they were of the same restless temper and disposition; changeable in their affection and behaviour towards their governors; no end of their number, nor any stable affection for, nor settled satisfaction in, their rulers; but this itch of novelty, of having new princes over them, went from age to age, from generation to generation. Some understand this of the king and his son, the predecessor and successor, and of those that went before them; and of their behaviour to the kings that reigned before them; the people have not their end or satisfaction in their governors, but are restless: which comes to the same sense;

they also that come after shall not rejoice in him; that come after the present generation, and after both the reigning prince, and even after his successor; they will not rejoice long in him that shall be upon the throne after them, any more than the present subjects of the old king, or those that now pay their court to the heir apparent; they will be so far from rejoicing in him, that they will loath and despise him, and wish him dead or dethroned, and another in his room.

Surely this also is vanity and vexation of spirit; to a king, to see himself thus used by his subjects; for a short time extolled and praised, and then despised and forsaken.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Ecc 4:16 The word “like” does not appear in the Hebrew text, but is supplied in the translation for clarity.

Geneva Bible: Ecc 4:16 [There is] no ( l ) end of all the people, [even] of all that have been before them: they also that come after shall not rejoice in him. Surely this a...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Ecc 4:1-16 - --1 Vanity is increased unto men by oppression;4 by envy;5 by idleness;7 by covetousness;9 by solitariness;13 by wilfulness.

MHCC: Ecc 4:13-16 - --People are never long easy and satisfied; they are fond of changes. This is no new thing. Princes see themselves slighted by those they have studied t...

Matthew Henry: Ecc 4:13-16 - -- Solomon was himself a king, and therefore may be allowed to speak more freely than another concerning the vanity of kingly state and dignity, which ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Ecc 4:15-16 - -- "I saw all the living which walk under the sun on the side of the youth, the second who shall enter upon the place of the former: no end of all the ...

Constable: Ecc 2:18--6:10 - --B. General Observations 2:18-6:9 Thus far Solomon had reflected on the futility of all human endeavor ge...

Constable: Ecc 4:4-16 - --3. The motivations of labor 4:4-16 The phrase "vanity and striving after wind" (vv. 4, 16) brack...

Constable: Ecc 4:13-16 - --Position and prestige 4:13-16 It is also futile to work to gain advancement and populari...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) The Hebrew title is Koheleth, which the speaker in it applies to himself (Ecc 1:12), "I, Koheleth, was king over Israel." It means an Assembler or Con...

JFB: Ecclesiastes (Outline) INTRODUCTION. (Ecc. 1:1-18)

TSK: Ecclesiastes 4 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Ecc 4:1, Vanity is increased unto men by oppression; Ecc 4:4, by envy; Ecc 4:5, by idleness; Ecc 4:7, by covetousness; Ecc 4:9, by solita...

Poole: Ecclesiastes 4 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 4 The vanity of oppression, by reason of which the dead and the unborn are better than the living, Ecc 4:1-3 . Of envy, sloth, quarrel, Ecc...

MHCC: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) The name of this book signifies " The Preacher." The wisdom of God here preaches to us, speaking by Solomon, who it is evident was the author. At the...

MHCC: Ecclesiastes 4 (Chapter Introduction) (Ecc 4:1-3) Miseries from oppression. (Ecc 4:4-6) Troubles from envy. (Ecc 4:7, Ecc 4:8) The folly of covetousness. (Ecc 4:9-12) The advantages of ...

Matthew Henry: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Ecclesiastes We are still among Solomon's happy men, his happy servants, that stood contin...

Matthew Henry: Ecclesiastes 4 (Chapter Introduction) Solomon, having shown the vanity of this world in the temptation which those in power feel to oppress and trample upon their subjects, here further...

Constable: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The title of this book in the Hebrew text is all of verse 1. The Se...

Constable: Ecclesiastes (Outline)

Constable: Ecclesiastes Ecclesiastes Bibliography Archer, Gleason L., Jr. "The Linguistic Evidence for the Date of Ecclesiastes'." Jour...

Haydock: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) ECCLESIASTES. INTRODUCTION. This Book is called Ecclesiastes, or the preacher, (in Hebrew, Coheleth ) because in it Solomon, as an excelle...

Gill: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO ECCLESIASTES This book has been universally received into the canon of the Scriptures, by Jews and Christians. The former, indeed, ...

Gill: Ecclesiastes 4 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO ECCLESIASTES 4 In this chapter the wise man reassumes the consideration of the case of the abuse of power, to show that there is no...

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