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Text -- Jeremiah 15:12 (NET)

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15:12 Can you people who are like iron and bronze break that iron fist from the north?
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Dictionary Themes and Topics: Steel | METALS | Israel | Iron | IRON (1) | Copper | Backsliders | BREAK | more
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Jer 15:12 - -- As the northern iron and steel is the hardest, and no iron could break that, so God having edged and hardened their enemies, the Chaldeans, all opposi...

As the northern iron and steel is the hardest, and no iron could break that, so God having edged and hardened their enemies, the Chaldeans, all opposition to them would signify nothing.

JFB: Jer 15:12 - -- Rather, brass or copper, which mixed with "iron" (by the Chalybes near the Euxine Pontus, far north of Palestine), formed the hardest metal, like our ...

Rather, brass or copper, which mixed with "iron" (by the Chalybes near the Euxine Pontus, far north of Palestine), formed the hardest metal, like our steel. Can the Jews, hardy like common iron though they be, break the still hardier Chaldees of the north (Jer 1:14), who resemble the Chalybian iron hardened with copper? Certainly not [CALVIN]. HENDERSON translates. "Can one break iron, (even) the northern iron, and brass," on the ground that English Version makes ordinary iron not so hard as brass. But it is not brass, but a particular mixture of iron and brass, which is represented as harder than common iron, which was probably then of inferior texture, owing to ignorance of modern modes of preparation.

Clarke: Jer 15:12 - -- Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel? - Shall our weak forces be able to oppose and overcome the powers of the Chaldeans? נחשת nech...

Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel? - Shall our weak forces be able to oppose and overcome the powers of the Chaldeans? נחשת nechasheth , which we here translate steel, property signifies brass or copper united with tin, which gives it much hardness, and enables it to bear a good edge.

Calvin: Jer 15:12 - -- This verse also has been taken in different ways by interpreters: some take the word iron, when repeated in a different case, “Will iron break ir...

This verse also has been taken in different ways by interpreters: some take the word iron, when repeated in a different case, “Will iron break iron?” but others think the subject wanting in the clause, and consider people to be understood, “Will the Jews break the iron, even the iron from the north, and not only the iron but the brass also, or, the the brass mixed with iron?” There is in reality no difference, but in words only. If we read, “Will the iron break the iron from the north?” the meaning will be, “Though there be great hardness in you, can it yet break that which is in the Assyrians? but ye are not equal to them: make your strength as great as you please, still the Chaldeans will be harder to break you; for if ye are iron, they are brass or steel, and so it will not be possible for you to sustain their violent attacks.”

As the meaning of the Prophet is sufficiently evident, I will not insist on words, though the rendering I most approve is this, “Will iron break the iron (the repetition is emphatical) from the north and the brass?”

We here also see that the design of the holy man was, to divest the Jews of that false confidence in which they boasted: for how was it, that they were so refractory, except that they did not dread any misfortune? As then they were secure, predictions had but little weight with them. Hence the Prophet, in order to beat down this ferocity, says, that there would be greater hardness in the Chaldeans, for they would be like iron, yea, and steel also. 141 It follows —

TSK: Jer 15:12 - -- Shall iron : Jer 1:18, Jer 1:19, Jer 21:4, Jer 21:5; Job 40:9; Isa 45:9; Hab 1:5-10

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Jer 15:12 - -- The steel - " brass,"i. e., bronze. By the "iron"is meant Jeremiah’ s intercession; but this cannot alter the divine purpose to send Judah ...

The steel - " brass,"i. e., bronze. By the "iron"is meant Jeremiah’ s intercession; but this cannot alter the divine purpose to send Judah into exile, which is firm as steel and brass. For "brass"see Exo 25:3 note. The alloy of copper and zinc now called brass was entirely unknown to the ancients.

Poole: Jer 15:12 - -- There is a great variety among interpreters as to this verse also, some interpreting this as a prophecy that none should break the prophet, whom God...

There is a great variety among interpreters as to this verse also, some interpreting this as a prophecy that none should break the prophet, whom God would make

as the northern iron and steel which was the hardest of all iron, the Chalybes (from whom steel had its name Chalybs ) being northern people, and the most famous of any then known in the world for tempering iron to make it hard and tough; others interpreting it, as denying that there should ever be an agreement betwixt the Jews and the Chaldeans: but to me the words of the next verse seem to give us the sense, that the Jews should certainly be overrun and conquered by the Babylonians; for as the northern iron and steel is the hardest, and no iron could break that, so God having edged and hardened their enemies the Chaldeans, all their opposition to them would signify nothing.

PBC: Jer 15:12 - -- See Philpot: THE NORTHERN IRON AND THE STEEL

See Philpot: THE NORTHERN IRON AND THE STEEL

Haydock: Jer 15:12 - -- Iron. Shall the iron (that is, the strength of Juda) stand against the stronger iron of the north, (that is, of Babylon) or enter into an alliance...

Iron. Shall the iron (that is, the strength of Juda) stand against the stronger iron of the north, (that is, of Babylon) or enter into an alliance upon equal footing with it? No, certainly; but it must be broken by it. (Challoner) ---

Iron is not easily united with brass, though Pliny ([Natural History?] xxxiv. 4.) mentions a statue of this nature. Neither iron nor brass can stand against steel, which is meant by the iron from the north. The Jews shall not hurt Jeremias, ver. 20., and chap. i. 17. (Calmet) ---

Protestants, "shall iron break the northern iron and the steel?" The riches of Juda shall become a prey, ver. 13. (Haydock) ---

Stronger kingdoms easily oppress their weak allies. (Worthington)

Gill: Jer 15:12 - -- Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel? Can iron break iron, especially that which comes from the north, which was harder than the common ir...

Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel? Can iron break iron, especially that which comes from the north, which was harder than the common iron; or steel, the hardest of all? though the Jews were hard as iron, they could not prevail against and overcome Jeremiah, who was made an iron pillar and brasen walls against them, Jer 1:18, and so these words are spoken for his comfort and encouragement: or they may respect the Jews and the Chaldeans; and the sense be, that the Jews, as mighty and as strong as they fancied themselves to be, and boasted that they were, they could not find themselves a match for the Chaldean army, which came out of the north; and may be said to be as hard as the northern iron, which came from the Chalybes, a people in the north, near Pontus, from whom steel has its name in the Latin tongue; and this sense agrees with what follows.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Jer 15:12 Compare Isa 10:5-6 for the idea here.

Geneva Bible: Jer 15:12 Shall ( n ) iron break the northern iron and the steel? ( n ) As for the people, though they seemed strong as iron, yet they would not be able to res...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Jer 15:1-21 - --1 The utter rejection and manifold judgments of the Jews.10 Jeremiah, complaining of their spite, receives a promise for himself;12 and a threatening ...

MHCC: Jer 15:10-14 - --Jeremiah met with much contempt and reproach, when they ought to have blessed him, and God for him. It is a great and sufficient support to the people...

Matthew Henry: Jer 15:10-14 - -- Jeremiah has now returned from his public work and retired into his closet; what passed between him and his God there we have an account of in these...

Keil-Delitzsch: Jer 15:10-21 - -- Complaint of the Prophet, and Soothing Answer of the Lord. - His sorrow at the rejection by God of his petition so overcomes the prophet, that he gi...

Constable: Jer 2:1--45:5 - --II. Prophecies about Judah chs. 2--45 The first series of prophetic announcements, reflections, and incidents th...

Constable: Jer 2:1--25:38 - --A. Warnings of judgment on Judah and Jerusalem chs. 2-25 Chapters 2-25 contain warnings and appeals to t...

Constable: Jer 15:10--26:1 - --3. Warnings in view of Judah's hard heart 15:10-25:38 This section of the book contains several ...

Constable: Jer 15:10-21 - --The prophet's inner struggles and Yahweh's responses 15:10-21 This pericope contains two instances in which Jeremiah faced crushing discouragement in ...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) JEREMIAH, son of Hilkiah, one of the ordinary priests, dwelling in Anathoth of Benjamin (Jer 1:1), not the Hilkiah the high priest who discovered the ...

JFB: Jeremiah (Outline) EXPOSTULATION WITH THE JEWS, REMINDING THEM OF THEIR FORMER DEVOTEDNESS, AND GOD'S CONSEQUENT FAVOR, AND A DENUNCIATION OF GOD'S COMING JUDGMENTS FOR...

TSK: Jeremiah 15 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Jer 15:1, The utter rejection and manifold judgments of the Jews; Jer 15:10, Jeremiah, complaining of their spite, receives a promise for...

Poole: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) BOOK OF THE PROPHET JEREMIAH THE ARGUMENT IT was the great unhappiness of this prophet to be a physician to, but that could not save, a dying sta...

Poole: Jeremiah 15 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 15 The Jews’ rejection, and judgments, especially of four kinds; the sins which procured them, Jer 15:1-9 . The prophet complaineth t...

MHCC: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) Jeremiah was a priest, a native of Anathoth, in the tribe of Benjamin. He was called to the prophetic office when very young, about seventy years afte...

MHCC: Jeremiah 15 (Chapter Introduction) (Jer 15:1-9) The destruction of the wicked described. (Jer 15:10-14) The prophet laments such messages, and is reproved. (Jer 15:15-21) He supplicat...

Matthew Henry: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of the Prophet Jeremiah The Prophecies of the Old Testament, as the Epistles of the New, are p...

Matthew Henry: Jeremiah 15 (Chapter Introduction) When we left the prophet, in the close of the foregoing chapter, so pathetically poring out his prayers before God, we had reason to hope that in t...

Constable: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The title of this book derives from its writer, the late seventh an...

Constable: Jeremiah (Outline) Outline I. Introduction ch. 1 A. The introduction of Jeremiah 1:1-3 B. T...

Constable: Jeremiah Jeremiah Bibliography Aharoni, Yohanan, and Michael Avi-Yonah. The Macmillan Bible Atlas. Revised ed. London: C...

Haydock: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) THE PROPHECY OF JEREMIAS. INTRODUCTION. Jeremias was a priest, a native of Anathoth, a priestly city, in the tribe of Benjamin, and was sanct...

Gill: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JEREMIAH The title of the book in the Vulgate Latin version is, "the Prophecy of Jeremiah"; in the Syriac and Arabic versions, "the...

Gill: Jeremiah 15 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JEREMIAH 15 This chapter contains the Lord's answer to the prophet's prayers, in which he declares himself inexorable, and had reso...

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