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Wesley: Job 13:1 - -- All this which either you or I have discoursed concerning the infinite power and wisdom of God. I know, both by seeing it, by my own observation and e...
All this which either you or I have discoursed concerning the infinite power and wisdom of God. I know, both by seeing it, by my own observation and experience, and by hearing it from my ancestors.

Wesley: Job 13:3 - -- I had rather debate the matter with God than with you. I am not afraid of presenting my person and cause before him, who is a witness of my integrity.
I had rather debate the matter with God than with you. I am not afraid of presenting my person and cause before him, who is a witness of my integrity.

Wesley: Job 13:8 - -- Not judging according to the right of the cause, but the quality or the person.
Not judging according to the right of the cause, but the quality or the person.
As to the dealings of Providence (Job 12:3).

JFB: Job 13:3 - -- Job wishes to plead his cause before God (Job 9:34-35), as he is more and more convinced of the valueless character of his would-be "physicians" (Job ...
Job wishes to plead his cause before God (Job 9:34-35), as he is more and more convinced of the valueless character of his would-be "physicians" (Job 16:2).

Literally, "artful twisters of vain speeches" [UMBREIT].

JFB: Job 13:7 - -- Use fallacies to vindicate God in His dealings; as if the end justified the means. Their "deceitfulness" for God, against Job, was that they asserted ...
Use fallacies to vindicate God in His dealings; as if the end justified the means. Their "deceitfulness" for God, against Job, was that they asserted he was a sinner, because he was a sufferer.

JFB: Job 13:8 - -- God's; that is, be partial for Him, as when a judge favors one party in a trial, because of personal considerations.
God's; that is, be partial for Him, as when a judge favors one party in a trial, because of personal considerations.

JFB: Job 13:8 - -- Namely, with fallacies and prepossessions against Job before judgment (Jdg 6:31). Partiality can never please the impartial God, nor the goodness of t...
Namely, with fallacies and prepossessions against Job before judgment (Jdg 6:31). Partiality can never please the impartial God, nor the goodness of the cause excuse the unfairness of the arguments.

JFB: Job 13:9 - -- Will the issue to you be good, when He searches out you and your arguments? Will you be regarded by Him as pure and disinterested?
Will the issue to you be good, when He searches out you and your arguments? Will you be regarded by Him as pure and disinterested?

JFB: Job 13:10 - -- If ye do, though secretly, act partially. (See on Job 13:8; Psa 82:1-2). God can successfully vindicate His acts, and needs no fallacious argument of ...
If ye do, though secretly, act partially. (See on Job 13:8; Psa 82:1-2). God can successfully vindicate His acts, and needs no fallacious argument of man.
Clarke: Job 13:1 - -- Lo, mine eye hath seen all this - Ye have brought nothing new to me; I know those maxims as well as you: nor have you any knowledge of which I am no...
Lo, mine eye hath seen all this - Ye have brought nothing new to me; I know those maxims as well as you: nor have you any knowledge of which I am not possessed.

Clarke: Job 13:3 - -- Surely I would speak to the Almighty - אולם ulam , O that: - I wish I could speak to the Almighty
Surely I would speak to the Almighty -

Clarke: Job 13:3 - -- I desire to reason with God - He speaks here to reference to the proceedings in a court of justice. Ye pretend to be advocates for God, but ye are f...
I desire to reason with God - He speaks here to reference to the proceedings in a court of justice. Ye pretend to be advocates for God, but ye are forgers of lies: O that God himself would appear! Before him I could soon prove my innocence of the evils with which ye charge me.

Clarke: Job 13:4 - -- Ye are forgers of lies - Ye frame deceitful arguments: ye reason sophistically, and pervert truth and justice, in order to support your cause
Ye are forgers of lies - Ye frame deceitful arguments: ye reason sophistically, and pervert truth and justice, in order to support your cause

Clarke: Job 13:4 - -- Physicians of no value - Ye are as feeble in your reasonings as ye are inefficient in your skill. Ye can neither heal the wound of my mind, nor the ...
Physicians of no value - Ye are as feeble in your reasonings as ye are inefficient in your skill. Ye can neither heal the wound of my mind, nor the disease of my body. In ancient times every wise man professed skill in the healing art, and probably Job’ s friends had tried their skill on his body as well as on his mind. He therefore had, in his argument against their teaching, a double advantage: Your skill in divinity and physic is equal: in the former ye are forgers of lies; in the latter, ye are good-for-nothing physicians. I can see no reason to depart from the general meaning of the original to which the ancient versions adhere. The Chaldee says: "Ye are idle physicians; and, like the mortified flesh which is cut off with the knife, so are the whole of you."The imagery in the former clause is chirurpical, and refers to the sewing together, or connecting the divided sides of wounds; for

Clarke: Job 13:5 - -- Hold your peace! and it should be your wisdom - In Pro 17:28 we have the following apophtheym: "Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted w...
Hold your peace! and it should be your wisdom - In Pro 17:28 we have the following apophtheym: "Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise; and he that shutteth his lips, a man of understanding."There is no reason to say that Solomon quotes from Job: I have already expressed my opinion that the high antiquity attributed to this book is perfectly unfounded, and that there is much more evidence that Solomon was its author, than there is that it was the composition of Moses. But, whenever Job lived, whether before Abraham or after Moses, the book was not written till the time of Solomon, if not later. But as to the saying in question, it is a general apophthegm, and may be found among the wise sayings of all nations. I may observe here, that a silent man is not likely to be a fool; for a fool will be always prating, or, according to another adage, a fool’ s bolt is soon shot. The Latins have the same proverb: Vir sapit, qui pauca loquitur , "A wise man speaks little."

Clarke: Job 13:6 - -- Hear now my reasoning - The speeches in this book are conceived as it delivered in a court of justice, different counselors pleading against each ot...
Hear now my reasoning - The speeches in this book are conceived as it delivered in a court of justice, different counselors pleading against each other. Hence most of the terms are forensic.

Clarke: Job 13:7 - -- Will ye speak wickedly for God? - In order to support your own cause, in contradiction to the evidence which the whole of my life bears to the uprig...
Will ye speak wickedly for God? - In order to support your own cause, in contradiction to the evidence which the whole of my life bears to the uprightness of my heart, will ye continue to assert that God could not thus afflict me, unless flagrant iniquity were found in my ways; for it is on this ground alone that ye pretend to vindicate the providence of God. Thus ye tell lies for God’ s sake, and thus ye wickedly contend for your Maker.

Clarke: Job 13:8 - -- Will ye accept his person? - Do you think to act by him as you would by a mortal; and, by telling lies in his favor, attempt to conciliate his estee...
Will ye accept his person? - Do you think to act by him as you would by a mortal; and, by telling lies in his favor, attempt to conciliate his esteem?

Clarke: Job 13:9 - -- Is it good that he should search you out? - Would it be to your credit if God should try your hearts, and uncover the motives of your conduct? Were ...
Is it good that he should search you out? - Would it be to your credit if God should try your hearts, and uncover the motives of your conduct? Were you tried as I am, how would you appear

Clarke: Job 13:9 - -- Do ye so mock him? - Do ye think that you can deceive him; and by flattering speeches bring him to your terms, as you would bring an undiscerning, e...
Do ye so mock him? - Do ye think that you can deceive him; and by flattering speeches bring him to your terms, as you would bring an undiscerning, empty mortal, like yourselves?

Clarke: Job 13:10 - -- He will surely reprove you - You may expect, not only his disapprobation, but his hot displeasure.
He will surely reprove you - You may expect, not only his disapprobation, but his hot displeasure.
TSK: Job 13:1 - -- Lo : Job 5:9-16, 12:9-25, Job 42:3-6
ear : Job 4:12, Job 5:27, Job 8:8-10, Job 15:17, Job 15:18; Psa 78:3, Psa 78:4; 1Jo 1:3
Lo : Job 5:9-16, 12:9-25, Job 42:3-6
ear : Job 4:12, Job 5:27, Job 8:8-10, Job 15:17, Job 15:18; Psa 78:3, Psa 78:4; 1Jo 1:3

TSK: Job 13:2 - -- Job 12:3, Job 15:8, Job 15:9, Job 34:35, Job 35:16, Job 37:2, Job 40:4, Job 40:5, Job 42:7; 1Co 8:1, 1Co 8:2; 2Co 11:4, 2Co 11:5, 2Co 11:16-18, 2Co 12...

TSK: Job 13:3 - -- Surely : Job 13:22, Job 9:34, Job 9:35, Job 11:5, Job 23:3-7, Job 31:35
I desire : Job 9:3, Job 9:14, Job 9:15; Isa 1:18-20, Isa 41:21; Jer 12:1, Jer ...

TSK: Job 13:4 - -- ye are forgers : Job 4:7-11, Job 5:1-5, Job 8:3, Job 8:4, 18:5-21, Job 21:27-34, 22:6-30; Exo 20:16; Psa 119:69
physicians : Job 6:21, Job 16:2; Jer 6...

TSK: Job 13:5 - -- Oh that ye, Job 13:13, Job 11:3, Job 16:3, Job 18:2, Job 19:2, Job 21:2, Job 21:3, Job 32:1
and it : Pro 17:28; Ecc 5:3; Amo 5:13; Jam 1:19


TSK: Job 13:7 - -- Job 4:7, Job 11:2-4, Job 17:5, Job 32:21, Job 32:22, Job 36:4; Joh 16:2; Rom 3:5-8; 2Co 4:2


TSK: Job 13:9 - -- search : Job 34:36; Psa 44:21, Psa 139:23; Jer 17:10
as one : Job 17:2; Isa 28:22; Gal 6:7, Gal 6:8

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Barnes: Job 13:1 - -- Lo, mine eye hath seen all this - I have seen illustrations of all that I have said, or that you have said about the methods of divine providen...
Lo, mine eye hath seen all this - I have seen illustrations of all that I have said, or that you have said about the methods of divine providence.

Barnes: Job 13:3 - -- Surely I would speak to the Almighty - I would desire to carry my cause directly up to God, and spread out my reasons before him. This Job ofte...
Surely I would speak to the Almighty - I would desire to carry my cause directly up to God, and spread out my reasons before him. This Job often professed to desire; see Job 9:34-35. He felt that God would appreciate the arguments which he would urge, and would do justice to them. His friends he felt were censorious and severe. They neither did justice to his feelings, nor to his motives. They perverted his words and arguments; and instead of consoling him, they only aggravated his trials, and caused him to sink into deeper sorrows. But he felt if he could carry his cause to God, he would do ample justice to him and his cause. The views which he entertained of his friends he proceeds to state at considerable length, and without much reserve, in the following verses.

Barnes: Job 13:4 - -- But ye are forgers of lies - The word lies here seems to be used in a large sense, to denote sophisms, false accusations, errors. They maintain...
But ye are forgers of lies - The word lies here seems to be used in a large sense, to denote sophisms, false accusations, errors. They maintained false positions; they did not see the exact truth in respect to the divine dealings, and to the character of Job. They maintained strenuously that Job was a hypocrite, and that God was punishing him for his sins. They maintained that God deals with people in exact accordance with their charactor in this world, all of which Job regarded as false doctrine, and asserted that they defended it with sophistical arguments invented for the purpose, and thus they could be spoken of as "forgers of lies."
Physicians of no value - The meaning is, that they had come to give him consolation, but nothing that they had said had imparted comfort. They were like physicians sent for to visit the sick, who could do nothing when they came; compare Job 16:2.

Barnes: Job 13:5 - -- Oh that ye would altogether hold your peace! - You would show your wisdom by silence. Since you can say nothing that is adapted to give comfort...
Oh that ye would altogether hold your peace! - You would show your wisdom by silence. Since you can say nothing that is adapted to give comfort, or to explain the true state of the case, it would be wise to say nothing; compare Pro 17:28 : "Even a fool when he holdeth his peace is counted wise."

Barnes: Job 13:7 - -- Will ye speak wickedly for God? - That is, will you maintain unjust principles with a view to honor or to vindicate God? Job refers doubtless t...
Will ye speak wickedly for God? - That is, will you maintain unjust principles with a view to honor or to vindicate God? Job refers doubtless to the positions which they had defended in regard to the divine administration - principles which he regarded as unjust, though they had employed them professedly in vindicating God. The sense is, that unjust principles ought not to be advanced to vindicate God. The great cause of truth and justice should always be maintained, and even in attempting to vindicate the divine administration, we ought to make use of no arguments which are not based on that which is right and true. Job means to reproach his friends with having, in their professed vindication of God, advanced sentiments which were at war with truth and justice, and which were full of fallacy and sophistry. And is this never done now? Are sophistical arguments never employed in attempting to vindicate the divine government? Do we never state principles in regard to him which we should esteem to be unjust and dishonorable if applied to man? Do not good people sometimes feel that that government must be defended at all events; and when they can see no reason for the divine dealings, do they not make attempts at vindicating them, which are merely designed to throw dust in the eyes of an opponent, and which are known to be sophistical in their nature? It is wrong to employ a sophistical argument on any subject; and in reasoning on the divine character and dealings, when we come, as we often do, to points which we cannot understand, it is best to confess it. God asks no weak or sophistical argument in his defense; still less can he be pleased with an argument, though in defense of his government, which is based on unjust principles.
And talk deceitfully for him - Use fallacies and sophisms in attempting to vindicate him. Everything in speaking of God, should be true, pure, and sound. Every argument should be free from any appearance of sophism, and should be such as will bear the test of the most thorough examination. No honor is done to God by sophistical arguments, nor can he be pleased when such arguments are employed even to vindicate and honor his character.

Barnes: Job 13:8 - -- Will ye accept his person? - That is, will you be partial to him? The language is such as is used in relation to courts of justice, where a jud...
Will ye accept his person? - That is, will you be partial to him? The language is such as is used in relation to courts of justice, where a judge shows favor to one of the parties on account of birth, rank, wealth, or personal friendship. The idea here is, "will you, from partiality to God, maintain unjust principles, and defend positions which are really untenable?"There was a controversy between Job and God. Job maintained that he was punished too severely; that the divine dealings were unequal and disproportioned to his offences. His friends, he alleges, have not done justice to the arguments which he had urged, but had taken sides with God against him, no matter what he urged or what he said. So little disposed were they to do justice to him and to listen to his vindication, that no matter what he said, they set it all down to impatience, rebellion, and insubmission.
They assumed that he was wrong, and that God was wholly right in all flyings. Of this position that God was right, no one could reasonably complain, and in his sober reflections Job himself would not be disposed to object to it; but his complaint is, that though the considerations which he urged were of the greatest weight, they would not allow their force, simply because they were determined to vindicate God. Their position was, that God dealt with people strictly according to their character; and that no matter what they suffered, their sufferings were the exact measure of their ill desert. Against this position, they would hear nothing that Job could say; and they maintained it by every kind of argument which was at their command - whether sound or unsound, sophistical or solid. Job says that this was showing partiality for God, and he felt that he had a right to complain. We need never show "partiality"even for God. He can be vindicated by just and equal arguments; and we need never injure others while we vindicate him. Our arguments for him should indeed be reverent, and we should desire to vindicate his character and government; but the considerations which we urge need not be those of mere partiality and favor.
Will ye contend for God? - Language taken from a court of justice, and referring to an argument in favor of a party or cause. Job asks whether they would undertake to maintain the cause of God, and he may mean to intimate that they were wholly disqualified for such an undertaking. He not only reproves them for a lack of candor and impartiality, as in the previous expressions, but he means to say that they were unfitted in all respects to be the advocates of God. They did not understand the principles of his administration. Their views were narrow, their information limited, and their arguments either common-place or unsound. According to this interpretation, the emphasis will be on the word "ye"- "will YE contend for God?"The whole verse may mean, "God is not to be defended by mere partiality, or favor. Solid arguments only should be employed in his cause. Such you have not used, and you have shown yourselves to be entirely unfitted for this great argument."
The practical inference which we should draw from this is, that our arguments in defense of the divine administration, should be solid and sound. They should not be mere declamation, or mere assertion. They should be such as will become the great theme, and such as will stand the test of any proper trial that can be applied to reasoning. There are arguments which will "vindicate all God’ s ways to men;"and to search them out should be one of the great employments of our lives. If ministers of the gospel would always abide by these principles, they would often do much more than they do now to commend religion to the sober views of mankind. No people are under greater temptations to use weak or unsound arguments than they are. They feel it to be their duty at all hazards to defend the divine administration. They are in circumstances where their arguments will not be subjected to the searching process which an argument at the bar will be, where a keen and interested opponent is on the alert, and will certainly sift every argument which is urged.
Either by inability to explain the difficulties of the divine government, or by indolence in searching out arguments, or by presuming on the ignorance and dullness of their hearers, or by a pride which will not allow them to confess their ignorance on any subject, they are in danger of attempting to hide a difficulty which they cannot explain, or of using arguments and resorting to reasoning, which would be regarded as unsound or worthless any where else. A minister should always remember that sound reasoning is as necessary in religion as in other things, and that there are always some people who can detect a fallacy or see through sophistry. With what diligent study then should the ministers of the gospel prepare for their work! How careful should they be, as the advocates of God and his cause in a world opposed to him, to find out solid arguments, to meet with candor every objection, and to convince people by sound reasoning, that God is right! Their work is to convince, not to denounce; and if there is any office of unspeakable responsibility on earth, it is that of undertaking to be the advocates of God.

Barnes: Job 13:9 - -- Is it good that he should search you out? - Would it be well for you if he should go into an investigation of your character, and of the argume...
Is it good that he should search you out? - Would it be well for you if he should go into an investigation of your character, and of the arguments which you adduce? The idea is, that if God should make such an investigation, the result would be highly unfavorable to them. Perhaps Job means to intimate that, if they were subjected to the kind of trial that he had been, it would be seen that they could not bear it. "Or as one man mocketh another."The idea here is, "it is possible to delude or deceive man, but God cannot be deceived. You may conceal your thoughts and motives from man, but you cannot from God. You may use arguments that may impose upon man - you may employ fallacies and sophisms which he cannot detect, but every such effort is vain with God;"compare Gal 6:7.

Barnes: Job 13:10 - -- He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons - If you show partiality, you will incur his disapprobation. This seems to have mu...
He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons - If you show partiality, you will incur his disapprobation. This seems to have much era proverbial cast, and to mean that under no possible circumstances was it right to show partiality. No matter for whom it may be done, it will be displeasing to God. Even if it be in favor of the righteous, the widow, the fatherless, or of himself, if there is not a disposition to judge according to truth and evidence, God will frown upon you. No matter who the parties might be; no matter what their rank; no matter what friendship there might be for one or the other of them, it was never to be assumed that one was right and the other wrong without evidence. The exact truth was to be sought after, and the judgement made up accordingly. Even when God was one of the parties, the same course was to be pursued. His character was capable of being successfully vindicated, and he would not be pleased to have his cause defended or decided by partiality, or by mere favor. Hence, he encourages people to bring forth their strong reasons, and to adduce all that can be said against his government and laws. See the notes at Isa. 41:1-21.
Poole: Job 13:1 - -- All this which either you or I have discoursed concerning the infinite power and wisdom of God, I know, both by seeing it, i.e. by my own observatio...
All this which either you or I have discoursed concerning the infinite power and wisdom of God, I know, both by seeing it, i.e. by my own observation and experience, and by hearing it from my ancestors; so that I did not need your tedious and impertinent discourses concerning those matters.

Poole: Job 13:3 - -- According to thy wish, Job 11:5 , I had rather debate the matter with God than with you. I am not afraid of presenting my person and cause before hi...
According to thy wish, Job 11:5 , I had rather debate the matter with God than with you. I am not afraid of presenting my person and cause before him, who is a witness of my integrity, and would not deal so unmercifully with me as you do.

Poole: Job 13:4 - -- Forgers of lies i.e. authors of false doctrine, to wit, that great afflictions are peculiar to hypocrites and wicked men.
Physicians of no value un...
Forgers of lies i.e. authors of false doctrine, to wit, that great afflictions are peculiar to hypocrites and wicked men.
Physicians of no value unfaithful and unskilful; prescribing bad remedies, and misapplying good ones.

Poole: Job 13:5 - -- For then your ignorance and folly had been concealed, which is now manifest. Compare Pro 17:28 .
For then your ignorance and folly had been concealed, which is now manifest. Compare Pro 17:28 .

Poole: Job 13:6 - -- i.e. Attend to it, and consider it more seriously than you have done.
The pleadings of my lips i.e. the arguments which I shall produce.
i.e. Attend to it, and consider it more seriously than you have done.
The pleadings of my lips i.e. the arguments which I shall produce.

Poole: Job 13:7 - -- Will you utter falsehoods upon pretence of pleasing God, or of maintaining God’ s honour or justice? Doth he need such defences?
Will you utter falsehoods upon pretence of pleasing God, or of maintaining God’ s honour or justice? Doth he need such defences?

Poole: Job 13:8 - -- Will ye accept his person? not judging according to the right of the cause, but the quality of the person, as corrupt judges do.
Will ye contend i....
Will ye accept his person? not judging according to the right of the cause, but the quality of the person, as corrupt judges do.
Will ye contend i.e. wrangle and quarrel with me, and cavil at my speeches, and pervert my meaning?
For God i.e. that you may gratify him, or defend his rights.

Poole: Job 13:9 - -- Is it good? will it be to your credit and comfort?
Search you out i.e. narrowly examine your hearts and discourses, whether you have uttered truth ...
Is it good? will it be to your credit and comfort?
Search you out i.e. narrowly examine your hearts and discourses, whether you have uttered truth or falsehood, and whether your speeches proceed from true zeal for God, or from your own prejudices and passions, and from a desire to curry favour with him.
Do ye so mock him to wit, by covering your uncharitableness and corrupt affections with pretences of piety, as if God could not discern your artifices; or by pleading his cause with weak and foolish arguments, which is a kind of mockery to him, and an injury to his cause; or by seeking to flatter him with false praises, as if he did distribute the things of this world with exact justice, prospering only the good, and severely afflicting none but wicked men?

Poole: Job 13:10 - -- i.e. Punish you; as this word is oft used, as hath been once and again observed.
Secretly though it be concealed in your own breasts, and no eye s...
i.e. Punish you; as this word is oft used, as hath been once and again observed.
Secretly though it be concealed in your own breasts, and no eye see it; yea, though it be so close that your own minds and consciences, through ignorance, or inadvertency, or slothfulness, do not perceive it; yet He, who is greater than your consciences, sees and knows it.
All, without your information. (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 13:3 - -- Reason. Hebrew, "to dispute with, or before God," concerning the matter which we have in hand. He appeals to God, as to the judge of all.
Reason. Hebrew, "to dispute with, or before God," concerning the matter which we have in hand. He appeals to God, as to the judge of all.

Haydock: Job 13:4 - -- Having. Hebrew, "But ye are sewers of lies." (Calmet) ---
Septuagint, "unskilful surgeons, (who, instead of sewing up a wound, increase it) and al...
Having. Hebrew, "But ye are sewers of lies." (Calmet) ---
Septuagint, "unskilful surgeons, (who, instead of sewing up a wound, increase it) and all of you doctors of evil;" vain empirics. ---
Maintainers. Protestants, "ye are all physicians of no value." (Haydock)

Haydock: Job 13:5 - -- Men. Proverbs xvii. 28. If you had been silent, you might still have had the reputation of wisdom. (Calmet)
Men. Proverbs xvii. 28. If you had been silent, you might still have had the reputation of wisdom. (Calmet)

Judgment. Hebrew, "pleading" before our common judge. (Haydock)

Haydock: Job 13:8 - -- Accept. Hebrew, "will you not be seized with fear?" Olympiodorus translates, "will you stad in his presence, and dispute with him?" (Calmet) ---
...
Accept. Hebrew, "will you not be seized with fear?" Olympiodorus translates, "will you stad in his presence, and dispute with him?" (Calmet) ---
Septuagint, "Are you sent to be judges?" &c., or, do you suppose that you hope to gain his favour? (Calmet) ---
He knows the state of my soul best; then I myself: but you are quite in the dark. (Worthington)

Haydock: Job 13:9 - -- Or. Hebrew, "Is it good that he should examine you, would you escape?" (Calmet)
Or. Hebrew, "Is it good that he should examine you, would you escape?" (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 13:10 - -- His. Hebrew, "persons." Because you see me afflicted, you infer that I am guilty; and think this mode of judging most honourable to God, whom you ...
His. Hebrew, "persons." Because you see me afflicted, you infer that I am guilty; and think this mode of judging most honourable to God, whom you wish thus to please. (Haydock) ---
But he stands not in need of lies; (Calmet) and something farther is still to be proved. (Haydock) ---
You judge rashly, as if you designed to please a prince, (Menochius) without examining the cause of the accused. (Haydock)
Gill: Job 13:1 - -- Lo, mine eye hath seen all this,.... Or "all those things" h he had been discoursing of, concerning the wisdom and power of God, and his friends also...
Lo, mine eye hath seen all this,.... Or "all those things" h he had been discoursing of, concerning the wisdom and power of God, and his friends also; some of these he had seen instances of, he had been an eyewitness of them, and could give an ocular testimony to them; and others he had discerned with the eyes of his understanding, being opened and enlightened, and had a clear and distinct view of them, so that he had seen and knew as much of these things as any of them had. Some i interpret it "all" other things, pertaining to the same subject; by what he had said, it might be concluded he knew more; this was but a sample or specimen of his knowledge, which, when observed, it might be perceived what an understanding he had in such divine things: the words are indeed absolute, "my eye hath seen all things" k, which must not be taken in the largest and comprehensive sense of all things to be seen, heard, and understood; for though Job's knowledge was very great, yet it did not take so great a compass as this; many things in nature his eye had not seen, others in providence he could not discern, and but a small portion of God, of his nature, perfections, ways, and works, was known by him, as he himself confesses elsewhere, Job 26:14; this therefore must be limited and restrained to the subject matter in hand, and to what he and his friends had been treating of:
mine ear hath heard; some things he had knowledge of by the report of others, from his forefathers, his ancestors, men of capacity and probity, that could be credited, and safely depended on, and even some things by revelation from God; for if Eliphaz his friend had an heavenly vision, and a divine revelation, which his ear received a little of, why may it not be thought that Job also was sometimes favoured with visions and revelations from God, whereby he became more intimately acquainted with divine and spiritual things?
and understood it; that is, what he had seen and heard; some things may be seen, and yet not known what they are; and other things may be heard, and not understood; but Job had an understanding of what he had seen with his own eyes, or had received by revelation, human or divine: and all this is introduced with a "lo" or "behold"; not as a note of admiration at his knowledge, though the things known by him were wonderful, but as a note of attention to them, and to his remark on them, and as expressive of the certainty of his sight, hearing, and understanding of these things.

Gill: Job 13:2 - -- What ye know, the same do I know also,.... Concerning God and his perfections, his sovereignty, holiness, justice, wisdom, power, goodness, &c. and c...
What ye know, the same do I know also,.... Concerning God and his perfections, his sovereignty, holiness, justice, wisdom, power, goodness, &c. and concerning his providences, and his dealings with men in an ordinary or in an extraordinary way:
I am not inferior unto you; as might be deduced from the preceding discourse; See Gill on Job 12:3.

Gill: Job 13:3 - -- Surely I would speak to the Almighty,.... Or "therefore I would speak" l, since he knew as much as his friends, and they knew no more than he, if so m...
Surely I would speak to the Almighty,.... Or "therefore I would speak" l, since he knew as much as his friends, and they knew no more than he, if so much, he would have no more to do with them, they should not be his judges; nor would he be determined by them, but would appeal to God, and plead his own cause before him, by whom he doubted not he should be candidly heard; he knew that he was the Judge of all the earth, and would do right; and that he sat on a throne judging righteously, and would maintain his right and his cause; that he would judge him according to his righteousness and integrity, of which he was conscious, and would pass a just decisive sentence in his favour, and give the cause for him against his friends, as he afterwards did; for this is not to be understood of speaking to him in prayer, though that is a speech either of the heart or of the tongue, or of both, to God; and which he allows of, yea, delights in, and which is a wonderful condescension; and therefore it may be used with boldness and freedom, and which gracious souls are desirous of; and the consideration of God being "almighty", or "all sufficient", is an argument, motive, and inducement to them to speak or pray unto him, since he is able to do all things for them they want or desire of him; but here it is to be understood of speaking to him, or before him, in a judicial way, at his bar, before his tribunal, he sitting as a Judge to hear the cause, and decide the controversy between Job and his friends. So, he render it, "I would speak for the Almighty, and desire to reason for God" m; seeing he knew so much of him; not speak against him, as his friends suggested he had, but for him, on behalf of his sovereignty, justice, holiness, wisdom, and strength, as he had done, and would do yet more; by which he would have it known, that as he had as much knowledge as they, he was as zealous as any of them to plead for God, and defend him, and promote his honour and glory to the uttermost; but the other sense is best:
and I desire to reason with God: not at the bar of his justice, with respect to the justification of his person by his own righteousness; so no man can reason with God, as to approve himself just with him; nor will any sensible man desire to enter into judgment with him on that foot; a poor sensible sinner may reason with God at the throne of grace, and plead for pardoning mercy and justifying grace through the blood and righteousness of Christ, and from the declarations, proclamations, and promises of grace through him; but of neither of these sorts of reasoning, are the words to be understood, but of debating the matter in controversy between Job and his friends before God, that he might hear it, and decide it; this was what Job was desirous of, of having the cause brought before him, the case stated and pleaded, and reasoned on in his presence; this he signifies would be a pleasure to him; he "should delight" to have it so, as the word n here used may be interpreted.

Gill: Job 13:4 - -- But ye are forgers of lies,.... This is a hard and very harsh saying; Job was now in a passion, provoked by his friends, and retorts upon them what t...
But ye are forgers of lies,.... This is a hard and very harsh saying; Job was now in a passion, provoked by his friends, and retorts upon them what they had charged him with, Job 11:3; so often in controversies and disputes between good men undue heats arise, and unbecoming words drop from their lips and pens; to tell lies is a bad thing, but to forge them, to tell a studied premeditated lie, is dreadfully shocking, contrary to the grace of God, and which good men cannot allow themselves in, it is the character of bad men, see Isa 63:8; but it may be Job may not design lies in a strict and proper sense, but falsehoods and untruths; for though no lie is of the truth, yet every untruth is not a lie; because a man may deliver an untruth, not knowing it to be so, but taking it for a truth, speaks it, without any design to impose upon and deceive others. Doctrinal lies may be intended, such as the false prophets told, whereby they made the hearts of the righteous sad, and were the untempered mortar they daubed with, Eze 13:10; and the word here used has the same signification, and may be rendered, "daubers of lies" o; that colour over things, and make falsehoods look like truths, and deliver them for such, and like others speak lies in hypocrisy: now those here referred to were these, that God did not afflict good men, at least in any very severe manner, and that Job, being thus afflicted, was a bad man, and an hypocrite; both these Job charges as lies:
ye are all physicians of no value; or "idol physicians" p; not that pretended to the cure of idols, but were no better than idols themselves, and understood no more how to cure than they, than an Heathen deity, the god of physic Aesculapius, or anyone that might be reckoned such; but was no other than an image of wood or stone, and so could not be possessed of the faculty of healing, and such were Job's friends; an idol is nothing, and is good for nothing, and such were they as physicians, they were idol physicians, like the "idol shepherd", Zec 11:17; of no value at all: the Rabbins q say, the word used signifies a nerve or sinew of the neck, which when broken is incurable; and such physicians were they, that could do him no service, no more than cure a broken neck; this is to be understood of them, not as physicians of his body, that they pretended not to be; he was greatly diseased from head to foot, and had no hope of a recovery of his health, nor did they pretend to prescribe for him, nor does he reproach them on that account; but as physicians of his soul, afflicted and distressed, they came to administer comfort to him under his afflictions, but they were miserable comforters, as he elsewhere calls them, Job 16:2; instead of acting the part of the good Samaritan, and pouring in oil and wine into his wounds, Luk 10:34, they poured in vinegar, and made them bleed and smart the more, and added affliction to his affliction; instead of healing, they wounded him yet more and more; and, instead of binding up his wounds, opened them wider, and gave him sensible pain; instead of giving him the cordials of the Gospel, they gave him the corrosives the law; and instead of pointing out unto him the gracious promises of God, for the support of his afflicted soul, they loaded him with charges of sin, and set him to work by repentance and reformation to obtain the forgiveness of them: they said many good things, but misapplied them, being ignorant of the case, and so were physicians of no value; as such are who are ignorant of the nature and causes of a disease, and therefore make wrong prescriptions, though the medicines they prescribe may in themselves be good: indeed, in the cases of souls, or for the healing of the diseases of the soul, which are natural and hereditary, epidemical and universal, nauseous and loathsome, and of themselves mortal, all physicians are of no value; but Jesus Christ, who is the only physician of souls, the able, skilful, and infallible one, that cures all fully freely that apply unto him; bodily physicians are no use in such cases, nor merry companions, nor legal preachers, who direct to supple the wounds with tears of repentance, and bind them up with rags of a man's own righteousness; Christ is the only Saviour, his blood the balsam that heals every wound, and his righteousness that affords peace, joy, and comfort to afflicted minds, and delivers from those weights and pressures of mind with which they are bowed down.

Gill: Job 13:5 - -- And that ye would altogether hold your peace,.... Since what they said of him was not true, nor anything to the purpose, or that tended to the comfort...
And that ye would altogether hold your peace,.... Since what they said of him was not true, nor anything to the purpose, or that tended to the comfort of his afflicted soul, but the reverse; and therefore he could have wished they had never broke silence, but continued as they were the first seven days of their visit; and now, since they had spoken, and had done no good by speaking, but hurt, he desires for the future they would be silent, and say no more:
and it should be your wisdom: it would be the greatest evidence of it they could give; they had shown none by speaking; it would be a proof of some in them, should they hold their peace; a very biting expression this see Pro 17:28.

Gill: Job 13:6 - -- Hear now my reasoning,.... Job entreats his friends that they would be no longer speakers, but hearers; that they would vouchsafe to sit still, and he...
Hear now my reasoning,.... Job entreats his friends that they would be no longer speakers, but hearers; that they would vouchsafe to sit still, and hear what he had to say; though he was greatly afflicted, he had not lost his reason, wisdom was not driven out from him, Job 6:13; he had still with him his reasoning powers, which he was capable of making use of, and even before God, and desires that they would attend to what he had to say on his own behalf:
and hearken to the pleadings of my lips; he was capable of pleading his own cause, and he was desirous of doing it before God as his Judge; and begs the favour of his friends to be silent, and hear him out, and then let judgment be given, not by them, but by God himself.

Gill: Job 13:7 - -- Will you speak wickedly for God?.... As he suggests they did; they spoke for God, and pleaded for the honour of his justice, by asserting he did not a...
Will you speak wickedly for God?.... As he suggests they did; they spoke for God, and pleaded for the honour of his justice, by asserting he did not afflict good men, which they thought was contrary to his justice; but: then, at the same time, they spoke wickedly of Job, that he being afflicted of God was a bad man, and an hypocrite; and this was speaking wickedly for God, to vindicate his justice at the expense of his character, which there was no need to do; and showed that they were poor advocates for God, since they might have vindicated the honour of his justice, and yet allowed that he afflicted good men, and that Job was such an one:
and talk deceitfully for him? or tell lies for him, namely, those just mentioned, that only wicked men, and not good men, were afflicted by him, and that Job was a bad man, and an hypocrite.

Gill: Job 13:8 - -- Will ye accept his person?.... Accepting persons ought not to be done in judgment by earthly judges; which is done when they give a cause to one throu...
Will ye accept his person?.... Accepting persons ought not to be done in judgment by earthly judges; which is done when they give a cause to one through favour and affection to his person, because rich, or their friend, and against another, because otherwise; and something like this Job intimates his friends did in the present case; they only considered what God was, holy, just, wise, and good in all he did, and so far they were right, and too much respect cannot be given him; but the fault was, that they only attended to this, and did not look into the cause of Job itself, but wholly neglected it, and gave it against him, he being poor, abject, and miserable, on the above consideration of the perfections of God; which looked like what is called among men acceptation, or respect of persons:
will ye contend for God? it is right to contend for God, for the being of God against atheists, for the perfections of God, his sovereignty, his omniscience, omnipresence, &c. against those that deny them, for his truths and doctrines, word, worship, and ordinances, against the corrupters of them; but then he and those are not to be contended for in a foolish and imprudent manner, or with a zeal, not according to knowledge, much less with an hypocritical one, as was Jehu's, 2Ki 10:28; God needs no such advocates, he can plead his own cause, or make use of persons that can do it in a better manner, and to better purpose.

Gill: Job 13:9 - -- Is it good that he should search you out?.... That is, God; searching is ascribed to him after the manner of men; not that he is ignorant of persons o...
Is it good that he should search you out?.... That is, God; searching is ascribed to him after the manner of men; not that he is ignorant of persons or things he searches after, or exercises that application, diligence, and industry, and takes those pains which are necessary in men to find out anything; when he makes search, it is not on his own account, but others; at least it is only to show his knowledge of persons and things, and to make men known to others, or things to them themselves; and is here to be understood in a judicial sense, as it frequently is the case, so it was here, a man that is "first in his own cause", as the wise man says, Pro 18:17, "seemeth just"; to himself and others; it looks upon the representation he makes of things as if he was in the right: "but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him"; traverses his arguments in his own vindication, and shows the fallacy of them; so Job's friends, making the worst of his cause, and the best of their own, seemed right in their own eyes; but God, who is the searcher of hearts, and who knows all things, could see through their coverings of things, and could not be deceived by them, but would find them out, and expose them; as he did afterwards, when he gave judgment against them, and declared they had not said that which was right, as his servant Job had, Job 42:7; and therefore it was not to their profit and advantage, and to their honour and credit, to be searched out by him, or to run the risk of it, as they did, which is the amount of this question:
or as one mocketh another, do ye so mock him? men may be mocked by their fellow creatures, either by words or gestures, as good men usually are in all ages, especially the prophets of the Lord, and the ministers of his word; or they may he deceived and imposed upon by the false glosses and colourings of artful men, as simple men are deceived by the fair speeches of false teachers, which is no other than an illusion of them, or mocking them: in the first sense God may be mocked, though he should not; there have been and will be such bold and daring creatures as to mock at his promises and his providence, to mock at his word, ordinances, and ministers, which is interpreted by him a mocking and despising himself; but in the latter sense he cannot be mocked, and it is a vain thing to attempt it; "be not deceived, God is not mocked", Gal 6:7; he sees through all the fallacious reasonings of men; he judges not according to outward appearance; he sees and knows the heart, and all the views and designs of men, and can detect all their sophisms and false glosses; he is not to be deceived by specious pretences of doing such and such actions for his glory, as casting out good men, and their names, or traducing their characters that he may be glorified, or killing them to do him service, Isa 66:5; he is not to be flattered as one man may flatter another; to do this with him, is to mock him, he is not to be mocked in this way.

Gill: Job 13:10 - -- He will surely reprove you,.... Or "in reproving he will reprove you" r; he will certainly do it, it may be depended upon, and be expected; he will ne...
He will surely reprove you,.... Or "in reproving he will reprove you" r; he will certainly do it, it may be depended upon, and be expected; he will never suffer sin to go unreproved and uncorrected; he will do it to the purpose, with sharpness and severity, as the nature of the crime requires; he reproves by his spirit, and it is well for men when he thoroughly, and in a spiritual and saving way, reproves them by him, and convinces them of sin, righteousness, and judgment; and he reproves by his word, which is written for reproof and correction; and by his ministers, one part of whose work it is to rebuke and reprove men for bad practices, and bad principles; and in some cases they are to use sharpness, and which when submitted to, and kindly taken, it is well; and sometimes he reproves by his providences, by afflictive dispensations, and that either in love, as he rebukes his own children, or in wrath and hot displeasure, as others, which is here designed; and as it is always for sin he rebukes men, so particularly he rebukes for the following, as might be expected:
if ye do secretly accept persons; acceptance of persons in judgment is prohibited by God, and is highly resented by him; yea, even the acceptance of his own person to the prejudice of the character of an innocent man; which seems to be what Job has respect unto, as appears from Job 13:8; and some versions render it, "if ye accept his face" a; and though this may be done no openly and publicly, but in a covert and secret manner, under disguise, and with specious pretences to the honour and glory of God.

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NET Notes: Job 13:1 Hebrew has כֹּל (kol, “all”); there is no reason to add anything to the text to gain a meaning “all this....

NET Notes: Job 13:2 The verb “fall” is used here as it was in Job 4:13 to express becoming lower than someone, i.e., inferior.

NET Notes: Job 13:3 The infinitive הוֹכֵחַ (hokheakh) is from the verb יָכַח (yakhakh), which mean...

NET Notes: Job 13:4 The literal rendering of the construct would be “healers of worthlessness.” Ewald and Dillmann translated it “patchers” based ...

NET Notes: Job 13:5 The text literally reads, “and it would be for you for wisdom,” or “that it would become your wisdom.” Job is rather sarcastic...

NET Notes: Job 13:6 The Hebrew word רִבוֹת (rivot, “disputes, contentions”) continues the imagery of presenting a legal ca...

NET Notes: Job 13:7 The expression “for God” means “in favor of God” or “on God’s behalf.” Job is amazed that they will say fals...

NET Notes: Job 13:8 The same root is used here (רִיב, riv, “dispute, contention”) as in v. 6b (see note).

NET Notes: Job 13:9 Both the infinitive and the imperfect of תָּלַל (talal, “deceive, mock”) retain the ה (he) (GKC ...

NET Notes: Job 13:10 The use of the word “in secret” or “secretly” suggests that what they do is a guilty action (31:27a).
Geneva Bible: Job 13:3 Surely I would speak to the Almighty, and I desire ( a ) to reason with God.
( a ) For although he knew that God was just, which was revealed in his ...

Geneva Bible: Job 13:4 But ye [are] forgers of lies, ye [are] all ( b ) physicians of no value.
( b ) You do not well apply your medicine to the disease.

Geneva Bible: Job 13:7 Will ye speak ( c ) wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him?
( c ) He condemns their zeal, who did not have knowledge, nor regarded they to co...

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 13:1-28
TSK Synopsis: Job 13:1-28 - --1 Job reproves his friends for partiality.14 He professes his confidence in God; and entreats to know his own sins, and God's purpose in afflicting hi...
MHCC -> Job 13:1-12
MHCC: Job 13:1-12 - --With self-preference, Job declared that he needed not to be taught by them. Those who dispute are tempted to magnify themselves, and lower their breth...
Matthew Henry -> Job 13:1-12
Matthew Henry: Job 13:1-12 - -- Job here warmly expresses his resentment of the unkindness of his friends. I. He comes up with them as one that understood the matter in dispute as ...
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 13:1-2 - --
1 Lo, mine eye hath seen all,
Mine ear hath heard and marked it.
2 What ye know do I know also,
I do not stand back behind you.
Job has brought ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 13:3-6 - --
3 But I would speak to the Almighty,
And I long to reason with God.
4 And ye however are forgers of lies,
Physicians of no value are ye all.
5 O...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 13:7-11 - --
7 Will ye speak what is wrong for God,
And speak what is deceitful for Him?
8 Will ye be partial for Him,
Or will ye play the part of God's advo...
Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14
The two soliloquies of Job (c...

Constable: Job 12:1--14:22 - --6. Job's first reply to Zophar chs. 12-14
In these chapters Job again rebutted his friends and t...




