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Eliphaz’s Second Speech
15:1 Then Eliphaz the Temanite answered: 15:2 “Does a wise man answer with blustery knowledge, or fill his belly with the east wind? 15:3 Does he argue with useless talk, with words that have no value in them? 15:4 But you even break off piety, and hinder meditation before God. 15:5 Your sin inspires your mouth; you choose the language of the crafty. 15:6 Your own mouth condemns you, not I; your own lips testify against you. 15:7 “Were you the first man ever born? Were you brought forth before the hills? 15:8 Do you listen in on God’s secret council? Do you limit wisdom to yourself? 15:9 What do you know that we don’t know? What do you understand that we don’t understand?
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Eliphaz son of Esau,a man of Teman who was a friend of Job
 · Temanite resident(s) of the region of Teman


Dictionary Themes and Topics: VAIN | Uncharitableness | SHEBNA | REASON; REASONABLE; REASONING | Pride | Prayerlessness | Mysteries | Job | HILL; MOUNT; MOUNTAIN | God | ELIPHAZ (2) | DEVOTION; DEVOTIONS | Belly | more
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Job 15:2 - -- Satisfy his mind and conscience.

Satisfy his mind and conscience.

Wesley: Job 15:2 - -- With discourses not only unprofitable, but also pernicious both to himself and others; as the east - wind was in those parts.

With discourses not only unprofitable, but also pernicious both to himself and others; as the east - wind was in those parts.

Wesley: Job 15:4 - -- Heb. thou makes void fear; the fear of God, piety and religion, by thy unworthy speeches of God, and by those false and pernicious principles, that Go...

Heb. thou makes void fear; the fear of God, piety and religion, by thy unworthy speeches of God, and by those false and pernicious principles, that God makes no difference between good and bad in the course of his providence, but equally prospers or afflicts both: thou dost that which tends to the subversion of the fear and worship of God.

Wesley: Job 15:4 - -- Thou dost by thy words and principles, as far as in thee lies, banish prayer out of the world, by making it useless and unprofitable to men.

Thou dost by thy words and principles, as far as in thee lies, banish prayer out of the world, by making it useless and unprofitable to men.

Wesley: Job 15:5 - -- Thy words discover the naughtiness of thy heart.

Thy words discover the naughtiness of thy heart.

Wesley: Job 15:5 - -- Thou speakest wickedly, and craftily: thou coverest thy impious principles with fair pretences of piety.

Thou speakest wickedly, and craftily: thou coverest thy impious principles with fair pretences of piety.

JFB: Job 15:2 - -- Which Job claims to be.

Which Job claims to be.

JFB: Job 15:2 - -- Hebrew, "windy knowledge"; literally, "of wind" (Job 8:2). In Ecc 1:14, Hebrew, "to catch wind," expresses to strive for what is vain.

Hebrew, "windy knowledge"; literally, "of wind" (Job 8:2). In Ecc 1:14, Hebrew, "to catch wind," expresses to strive for what is vain.

JFB: Job 15:2 - -- Stronger than the previous "wind," for in that region the east wind is the most destructive of winds (Isa 27:8). Thus here,--empty violence.

Stronger than the previous "wind," for in that region the east wind is the most destructive of winds (Isa 27:8). Thus here,--empty violence.

JFB: Job 15:2 - -- The inward parts, the breast (Pro 18:8).

The inward parts, the breast (Pro 18:8).

JFB: Job 15:4 - -- Reverence for God (Job 4:6; Psa 2:11).

Reverence for God (Job 4:6; Psa 2:11).

JFB: Job 15:4 - -- Meditation, in Psa 104:34; so devotion. If thy views were right, reasons Eliphaz, that God disregards the afflictions of the righteous and makes the w...

Meditation, in Psa 104:34; so devotion. If thy views were right, reasons Eliphaz, that God disregards the afflictions of the righteous and makes the wicked to prosper, all devotion would be at an end.

JFB: Job 15:5 - -- The sophistry of thine own speeches proves thy guilt.

The sophistry of thine own speeches proves thy guilt.

JFB: Job 15:6 - -- No pious man would utter such sentiments.

No pious man would utter such sentiments.

JFB: Job 15:7 - -- That is, Art thou wisdom personified? Wisdom existed before the hills; that is, the eternal Son of God (Pro 8:25; Psa 90:2). Wast thou in existence be...

That is, Art thou wisdom personified? Wisdom existed before the hills; that is, the eternal Son of God (Pro 8:25; Psa 90:2). Wast thou in existence before Adam? The farther back one existed, the nearer he was to the Eternal Wisdom.

JFB: Job 15:8 - -- Rather, "Wast thou a listener in the secret council of God?" The Hebrew means properly the cushions of a divan on which counsellors in the East usuall...

Rather, "Wast thou a listener in the secret council of God?" The Hebrew means properly the cushions of a divan on which counsellors in the East usually sit. God's servants are admitted to God's secrets (Psa 25:14; Gen 18:17; Joh 15:15).

JFB: Job 15:8 - -- Rather, didst thou take away, or borrow, thence (namely, from the divine secret council) thy wisdom? Eliphaz in this (Job 15:8-9) retorts Job's words ...

Rather, didst thou take away, or borrow, thence (namely, from the divine secret council) thy wisdom? Eliphaz in this (Job 15:8-9) retorts Job's words upon himself (Job 12:2-3; Job 13:2).

JFB: Job 15:9 - -- Or, "with us," Hebraism for "we are aware of."

Or, "with us," Hebraism for "we are aware of."

Clarke: Job 15:2 - -- Should a wise man utter vain knowledge - Or rather, Should a wise man utter the science of wind? A science without solidity or certainty

Should a wise man utter vain knowledge - Or rather, Should a wise man utter the science of wind? A science without solidity or certainty

Clarke: Job 15:2 - -- And fill his belly with the east wind? - בטן beten , which we translate belly, is used to signify any part of the cavity of the body, whether th...

And fill his belly with the east wind? - בטן beten , which we translate belly, is used to signify any part of the cavity of the body, whether the region of the thorax or abdomen; here it evidently refers to the lungs, and may include the cheeks and fauces. The east wind, קדים kadim , is a very stormy wind in the Levant, or the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea, supposed to be the same with that called by the Greeks ευροκλυδων, euroclydon , the east storm, mentioned Act 27:14. Eliphaz, by these words, seems to intimate that Job’ s speech was a perfect storm or tempest of words.

Clarke: Job 15:3 - -- Should he reason with unprofitable talk? - Should a man talk disrespectfully of his Maker, or speak to him without reverence? and should he suppose ...

Should he reason with unprofitable talk? - Should a man talk disrespectfully of his Maker, or speak to him without reverence? and should he suppose that he has proved any thing, when he has uttered words of little meaning, and used sound instead of sense?

Clarke: Job 15:4 - -- Thou castest off fear - Thou hast no reverence for God

Thou castest off fear - Thou hast no reverence for God

Clarke: Job 15:4 - -- And restrainest prayer - Instead of humbling thyself, and making supplication to thy Judge, thou spendest thy time in arraigning his providence and ...

And restrainest prayer - Instead of humbling thyself, and making supplication to thy Judge, thou spendest thy time in arraigning his providence and justifying thyself. When a man has any doubts whether he has grieved God’ s Spirit, and his mind feels troubled, it is much better for him to go immediately to God, and ask forgiveness, than spend any time in finding excuses for his conduct, or laboring to divest it of its seeming obliquity. Restraining or suppressing prayer, in order to find excuses or palliations for infirmities, indiscretions, or improprieties of any kind, which appear to trench on the sacred limits of morality and godliness, may be to a man the worst of evils: humiliation and prayer for mercy and pardon can never be out of their place to any soul of man who, surrounded with evils, is ever liable to offend.

Clarke: Job 15:5 - -- For thy mouth uttereth - In attempting to justify thyself, thou hast added iniquity to sin, and hast endeavored to impute blame to thy Maker

For thy mouth uttereth - In attempting to justify thyself, thou hast added iniquity to sin, and hast endeavored to impute blame to thy Maker

Clarke: Job 15:5 - -- The tongue of the crafty - Thou hast varnished thy own conduct, and used sophistical arguments to defend thyself. Thou resemblest those cunning pers...

The tongue of the crafty - Thou hast varnished thy own conduct, and used sophistical arguments to defend thyself. Thou resemblest those cunning persons, ערומים arumim , who derive their skill and dexterity from the old serpent, "the nachash, who was ערום arum , subtle, or crafty, beyond all the beasts of the field;"Gen 3:1. Thy wisdom is not from above, but from beneath.

Clarke: Job 15:7 - -- Art thou the first man that was born? - Literally, "Wert thou born before Adam?"Art thou in the pristine state of purity and innocence? Or art thou ...

Art thou the first man that was born? - Literally, "Wert thou born before Adam?"Art thou in the pristine state of purity and innocence? Or art thou like Adam in his first state? It does not become the fallen descendant of a fallen parent to talk as thou dost

Clarke: Job 15:7 - -- Made before the hills? - Did God create thee the beginning of his ways? or wert thou the first intelligent creature which his hands have formed?

Made before the hills? - Did God create thee the beginning of his ways? or wert thou the first intelligent creature which his hands have formed?

Clarke: Job 15:8 - -- Hast thou heard the secret of God? - " Hast thou hearkened in God’ s council?"Wert thou one of the celestial cabinet, when God said, Let Us mak...

Hast thou heard the secret of God? - " Hast thou hearkened in God’ s council?"Wert thou one of the celestial cabinet, when God said, Let Us make man in Our image, and in Our likeness

Clarke: Job 15:8 - -- Dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? - Dost thou wish us to understand that God’ s counsels were revealed to none but thyself? And dost thou d...

Dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? - Dost thou wish us to understand that God’ s counsels were revealed to none but thyself? And dost thou desire that we should give implicit credence to whatsoever thou art pleased to speak? These are all strong sarcastic questions, and apparently uttered with great contempt.

Clarke: Job 15:9 - -- What knowest thou - Is it likely that thy intellect is greater than ours; and that thou hast cultivated it better than we have done ours

What knowest thou - Is it likely that thy intellect is greater than ours; and that thou hast cultivated it better than we have done ours

Clarke: Job 15:9 - -- What understandest thou - Or, Dost thou understand any thing, and it is not with us? Show us any point of knowledge possessed by thyself, of which w...

What understandest thou - Or, Dost thou understand any thing, and it is not with us? Show us any point of knowledge possessed by thyself, of which we are ignorant.

TSK: Job 15:1 - -- Eliphaz : Job 2:11, Job 4:1, Job 22:1, Job 42:7, Job 42:9

TSK: Job 15:2 - -- a wise man : Job 11:2, Job 11:3, Job 13:2; Jam 3:13 vain knowledge : Heb. knowledge of wind, Job 6:26, Job 8:2 fill : Hos 12:1

a wise man : Job 11:2, Job 11:3, Job 13:2; Jam 3:13

vain knowledge : Heb. knowledge of wind, Job 6:26, Job 8:2

fill : Hos 12:1

TSK: Job 15:3 - -- he reason : Job 13:4, Job 13:5, Job 16:2, Job 16:3, Job 26:1-3; Mal 3:13-15; Mat 12:36, Mat 12:37; Col 4:6; 1Ti 6:4, 1Ti 6:5

TSK: Job 15:4 - -- castest off : Heb. makest void, Job 4:5, Job 4:6, Job 6:14; Psa 36:1-3, Psa 119:126; Zep 1:6; Rom 3:31; Gal 2:21 restrainest : Job 5:8, Job 27:10; 1Ch...

castest off : Heb. makest void, Job 4:5, Job 4:6, Job 6:14; Psa 36:1-3, Psa 119:126; Zep 1:6; Rom 3:31; Gal 2:21

restrainest : Job 5:8, Job 27:10; 1Ch 10:13, 1Ch 10:14; Hos 7:14; Amo 6:10; Luk 18:1

prayer : or, speech.

TSK: Job 15:5 - -- uttereth : Heb. teacheth, Job 9:22-24, Job 12:6; Mar 7:21, Mar 7:22; Luk 6:45; Jam 1:26 thou choosest : Psa 50:19, Psa 50:20, Psa 52:2-4, Psa 64:3, Ps...

TSK: Job 15:6 - -- own mouth : Job 9:20; Psa 64:8; Mat 12:37, Mat 26:65; Luk 19:22 thine own : Job 33:8-12, Job 34:5-9, Job 35:2, Job 35:3, Job 40:8, Job 42:3

TSK: Job 15:7 - -- the first : Job 15:10, Job 12:12; Gen 4:1 or wast thou : Job 38:4-41; Psa 90:2; Pro 8:22-25

the first : Job 15:10, Job 12:12; Gen 4:1

or wast thou : Job 38:4-41; Psa 90:2; Pro 8:22-25

TSK: Job 15:8 - -- the secret : Job 11:6; Deu 29:29; Psa 25:14; Pro 3:32; Jer 23:18; Amo 3:7; Mat 11:25; Mat 13:11, Mat 13:35; Joh 15:15; Rom 11:34, Rom 16:25, Rom 16:26...

TSK: Job 15:9 - -- knowest : Job 13:2, Job 26:3, Job 26:4; 2Co 10:7, 2Co 11:5, 2Co 11:21-30

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Barnes: Job 15:2 - -- Should a wise man - Referring to Job, and to his claims to be esteemed wise; see Job 12:3; Job 13:2, Job 13:6. The argument of Eliphaz here is,...

Should a wise man - Referring to Job, and to his claims to be esteemed wise; see Job 12:3; Job 13:2, Job 13:6. The argument of Eliphaz here is, that the sentiments which Job had advanced were a sufficient refutation of his pretensions to wisdom. A wise man would not be guilty of "mere talk,"or of using language that conveyed no ideas.

Utter - literally, answer. It refers to the replies which Job had made to the arguments of his friends.

Vain knowledge - Margin, "Knowledge of wind."So the Hebrew; see Job 6:26; Job 7:7. The "wind"is used to denote what is unsubstantial, vain, changing. Here it is used as an emblem of remarks which were vain, empty, and irrelevant.

And fill his belly - Fill his mind with unsubstantial arguments or sentiments - as little fitted for utility as the east wind is for food. The image is, "he fills himself with mere wind, and then blows it out under pretence of delivering the maxims of wisdom."

With the east wind - The east wind was not only tempestuous and vehement, but sultry, and destructive to vegetation. It passed over vast deserts, and was characterized by great dryness and heat. It is used here to denote a manner of discourse that had in it nothing profitable.

Barnes: Job 15:3 - -- Should he reason with unprofitable talk? - It does not become a man professing to be wise to make use of words that are nothing to the purpose....

Should he reason with unprofitable talk? - It does not become a man professing to be wise to make use of words that are nothing to the purpose. The sense is, that what Job said amounted to just nothing.

Barnes: Job 15:4 - -- Yea, thou castest off fear - Margin, Makest void. Fear here means the fear or reverence of God; and the idea is, that Job had not maintained a ...

Yea, thou castest off fear - Margin, Makest void. Fear here means the fear or reverence of God; and the idea is, that Job had not maintained a proper veneration or respect for his Maker in his argument. He had defended principles and made assertions which implied great disrespect for the Deity. If those doctrines were true; if he was right in his views about God, then he was not a being who could be reverenced. No confidence could be placed in his government; no worship of such a being could be maintained. Eliphaz does not refer here so much to what was personal with Job, as to his principles. He does not mean so much to affirm that he himself had lost all reverence for God, as that his arguments led to that. Job had maintained that God did not in this life reward and punish people strictly according to their deserts. If this was so, Eliphaz says, then it would be impossible to honor him, and religion and worship would be at an end.

The Hebrew word rendered "castest off"- more accurately rendered in the margin "makest void"( תפר tāpēr ) - implies this. "And restrainest prayer before God."Margin, "speech."The Hebrew word שׂיחה śı̂ychâh means properly "meditation"- and particularly meditation about divine things: Psa 119:97. Then it means "devotion"- as to meditate on divine things is a part of devotion. It may be applied to any part of devotion, and seems to be not improperly rendered "prayer."It is that devotion which finds utterance in the language of prayer. The word rendered "restrainest"- תגרע tı̂gâra‛ - means to shave off - like the beard; then to cut off, to take away, detract, withhold; and the idea here is, that the views which Job maintained were such as "to sap the very foundations of religion."If God treated the righteous and the wicked alike, the one would have nothing to hope and the other nothing to fear.

There could be no ground of encouragement, to pray to him. How could the righteous pray to him, unless there was evidence that he was the friend of virtue? How could they hope for his special blessing, if he were disposed to treat the good and the bad alike? Why was it not just as well to live in sin as to be holy? And how could such a being be the object of confidence or prayer? Eliphaz mistook the meaning of Job, and pressed his positions further than he intended; and Job was not entirely able to vindicate his position, or to show how the consequences stated by Eliphaz could be avoided. "They both wanted the complete and full view of the future state of retribution revealed in the gospel, and that would have removed the whole difficulty."But I see not how the considerations here urged by this ancient sage of the tendency of Job’ s doctrine can be avoided, if it be applied to the views of those who hold that all people will be saved at death. If that be the truth, then who can fail to see that the tendency must be to make people cast off the fear of God and to undermine all devotion and prayer? Why should people pray, if all are to be treated alike at death? How can people worship and honor a Being who will treat the good and the bad alike? How can we have confidence in a being who makes no distinction in regard to character? And what inducement can there be to be pious, when all people shall be made as happy as they can be forever whether they are pious or not? We are not to wonder, therefore, that the system tends every where to sap the foundations of virtue and religion; that it makes no man better; and that where it prevails, it banishes religion and prayer from the world.

Barnes: Job 15:5 - -- For thy mouth uttereth thine iniquity - Margin, "teacheth."That is, "your whole argument shows that you are a guilty man. A man who can defend ...

For thy mouth uttereth thine iniquity - Margin, "teacheth."That is, "your whole argument shows that you are a guilty man. A man who can defend such positions about God cannot be a pious man, or have any proper veneration for the Most High."A man may pursue an argument, and defend positions, that shall as certainly show that he is destitute of religion as though he lived an abandoned life; and he who holds opinions that are dishonorable to God, can no more be a pious man than if he dishonored God by violating his law.

Thou choosest the tongue of the crafty - Instead of pursuing an argument with candor and sincerity, you have resorted to miserable sophisms, such as running disputants use. You have not showed a disposition to ascertain and defend the truth, but have relied on the arts and evasions of the subtle disputant and the rhetorician. His whole discourse, according to Eliphaz, was a work of mere art, designed to blind his hearers; to deceive them with a favorable opinion of his piety; and to give some plausible, but delusive view of the government of God.

Barnes: Job 15:6 - -- Thine own mouth condemneth thee - That is, the sentiments which you have uttered show that you cannot be a pious man.

Thine own mouth condemneth thee - That is, the sentiments which you have uttered show that you cannot be a pious man.

Barnes: Job 15:7 - -- Art thou the first man that was born? - Hast thou lived ever since the creation, and treasured up all the wisdom of past times, that thou dost ...

Art thou the first man that was born? - Hast thou lived ever since the creation, and treasured up all the wisdom of past times, that thou dost now speak so arrogantly and confidently? This question was asked, because, in the estimation of Eliphaz and his friends, wisdom was supposed to be connected with long life, and with an opportunity for extended and varied observation; see Job 15:10. Job they regarded as comparatively a young man.

Wast thou made before the hills - The mountains and the hills are often represented as being the oldest of created objects, probably because they are the most ancient things that appear on earth. Springs dry up, and waters change their beds; cities are built and decay; kingdoms rise and fall, and all the monuments of human skill and art perish; but the hills and mountains remain the same from age to age. Thus, in Psa 90:2 :

Before the mountains were brought forth,

Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world,

Even from everlasting to everlasting thou art God.

So in Pro 8:25, in the description of wisdom:

Before the mountains were settled,

Before the hills was I brought forth.

So the hills are called "everlasting"Gen 49:26, in allusion to their great antiquity and permanence. And so we, in common parlance, have a similar expression when we say of anything that "it is as old as the hills."The question which Eliphaz intends to ask here of Job is, whether he had lived from the creation, and had observed everything?

Barnes: Job 15:8 - -- Hast thou heard the secret of God? - literally, "in the secret of God hast thou heard"- הסוד hasôd . The word rendered "secret"( ס...

Hast thou heard the secret of God? - literally, "in the secret of God hast thou heard"- הסוד hasôd . The word rendered "secret"( סוד sôd ) means properly a "couch"or "cushion,"on which one reclines - whether for sleep or at a table, or as a divan. Hence, it means a divan, or circle of persons sitting together for familiar conversation, Jer 6:11; Jer 15:17; or of judges, counsellors, or advisers for consultation, as the word "divan"is now used in Oriental countries; Psa 89:7; Jer 33:18. Then it means any consultation, counsel, familiar conversation, or intimacy; Psa 55:14; Pro 15:22. Here God is represented in Oriental language as seated in a "divan,"or council of state: there is deliberation about the concerns of his government; important questions are agitated and decided; and Eliphaz asks of Job whether he had been admitted to that council, and had heard those deliberations; and whether, if he had not, he was qualified to pronounce as he had done, on the plans and purposes of the Almighty.

And dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? - Having obtained the secret of that council, art thou now keeping it wholly to thyself - as a prime minister might be supposed to keep the purposes resolved on in the divan? "Hast thou listened in the council of yahweh, and dost thou now reserve all wisdom to thyself?"

Barnes: Job 15:9 - -- What knowest thou that we know not? - What pretensions or claims to wisdom have you which we have not? We have had, at least, equal advantages,...

What knowest thou that we know not? - What pretensions or claims to wisdom have you which we have not? We have had, at least, equal advantages, and may be presumed to know as much as you.

Poole: Job 15:2 - -- A wise man such as thou seemest and pretendest to be. Vain knowledge i.e. empty words, without any sense or solidity in them. Fill his belly i.e....

A wise man such as thou seemest and pretendest to be.

Vain knowledge i.e. empty words, without any sense or solidity in them.

Fill his belly i.e. satisfy his own mind and conscience, which being secret is compared to the inwards of the belly; as Job 32:19 Pro 20:27 22:18 .

With the east wind i.e. with discourses which are not only flashy and unprofitable, and without any weight, but also boisterous and pernicious, both to himself and others; as the east wind was in those parts, Gen 41:6 Exo 10:13 Hos 12:1 .

Poole: Job 15:3 - -- Either to himself or others, but much hurt; which is implied by the contrary, as is usual.

Either to himself or others, but much hurt; which is implied by the contrary, as is usual.

Poole: Job 15:4 - -- Heb. Thou makest void fear , i.e. the fear of God, as the word is oft used for the word of God or piety and religion, which oft cometh under the ...

Heb. Thou makest void fear , i.e. the fear of God, as the word is oft used

for the word of God or piety and religion, which oft cometh under the name of fear. This may be understood either,

1. Of Job himself; that he cast off all reverence to God, by uttering such bold and reproachful expressions concerning God and his providence. Or,

2. With respect to others; that by his insolent and unworthy speeches of and carriage towards God, and by those false and pernicious principles which he had laid down; as that God dealt with men in way of absolute sovereignty, not of justice; and that he made no difference between good and bad in the course of his providence, but did equally prosper or afflict both of them; he did that which tended to the subversion of the fear and worship of God.

Restrainest prayer as this Hebrew word signifies also, Psa 102:1 . Or, meditation or speech ; which well agrees to prayer, which is accompanied with serious thoughts and expressions. The sense is, either,

1. Instead of humble and fervent prayer to God, which thy condition calleth for, thou breathest forth false and blasphemous speeches against him. Or,

2. Thou dost by thy words, and examples, and principles, as far as in thee lies, banish prayer out of the world, by making it useless and unprofitable to men.

Poole: Job 15:5 - -- i.e. Thy words discover the naughtiness of thy heart, and justify my charge against time, that thou castest off fear , &c. Thou speakest wickedly, ...

i.e. Thy words discover the naughtiness of thy heart, and justify my charge against time, that thou castest off fear , &c. Thou speakest wickedly, but craftily; thou coverest thy impious principles and passions with fair pretences of piety and respect to God, wherewith thou endeavourest to mock God, and deceive men.

Poole: Job 15:6 - -- My condemnation of thee is grounded upon thine own words.

My condemnation of thee is grounded upon thine own words.

Poole: Job 15:7 - -- Hast thou lived ever since the creation of the world, and treasured up the experiences of all ages in thy own breast, that thou speakest so arrogant...

Hast thou lived ever since the creation of the world, and treasured up the experiences of all ages in thy own breast, that thou speakest so arrogantly and magisterially, and with such contempt of other men? Art thou the most ancient and the wisest of all mortal men? Whom dost thou make thyself? Before the hills ; before the earth was made and distinguished into mountains and valleys.

Poole: Job 15:8 - -- Hath God acquainted thee with all his secret counsels, whereby he governs the world, that thou dost pass so bold a censure upon all his designs and ...

Hath God acquainted thee with all his secret counsels, whereby he governs the world, that thou dost pass so bold a censure upon all his designs and actions? Art thou the only wise man in the world, and we and all others but fools?

Poole: Job 15:9 - -- He retorts upon Job his own expressions, Job 12:3 13:2 .

He retorts upon Job his own expressions, Job 12:3 13:2 .

Haydock: Job 15:2 - -- Heat. Hebrew, "east wind," (Haydock) or give vent to passion. (Haydock) --- Eliphaz now rebukes Job without any reserve. (Calmet) --- He was per...

Heat. Hebrew, "east wind," (Haydock) or give vent to passion. (Haydock) ---

Eliphaz now rebukes Job without any reserve. (Calmet) ---

He was perhaps displeased at the comparison used by the latter, chap. xiii. 4. Baldad had also hinted that Job's discourse was nothing but wind, chap. viii. 2. (Haydock) ---

Being unable to answer his arguments, he reviles him as an enemy of God. (Worthington)

Haydock: Job 15:3 - -- Equal. God, who is far above thee. Hebrew, "Will he (the wise) argue with less words, or with speeches which are nothing to the purpose?" (Calme...

Equal. God, who is far above thee. Hebrew, "Will he (the wise) argue with less words, or with speeches which are nothing to the purpose?" (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 15:4 - -- God. Another, after thy example, will assert his own innocence under affliction, and will not fear, nor have recourse to God by humble prayer. Beho...

God. Another, after thy example, will assert his own innocence under affliction, and will not fear, nor have recourse to God by humble prayer. Behold the dangerous consequences of thy principle. (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 15:5 - -- Blasphemers. Hebrew, "of the crafty," which is sometimes taken in a good sense. Septuagint, "thou hast not distinguished the speeches of the prince...

Blasphemers. Hebrew, "of the crafty," which is sometimes taken in a good sense. Septuagint, "thou hast not distinguished the speeches of the princes." Thou hast not shewn respect to our admonitions, (Calmet) or understood our meaning. (Haydock) ---

Thou rather choosest to imitate those false sages, who strive to deceive the world. Abuse could hardly be carried to greater lengths than it is by this man; who before spoke with some moderation, chap. iv. (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 15:7 - -- First. Is thy experience so great, (Menochius) or art thou the most excellent of men? To hear thee we are but novices, chap. xiii. 5. (Calmet)

First. Is thy experience so great, (Menochius) or art thou the most excellent of men? To hear thee we are but novices, chap. xiii. 5. (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 15:8 - -- His. Hebrew, "dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? Septuagint, "or has wisdom come to thee?" (Haydock)

His. Hebrew, "dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? Septuagint, "or has wisdom come to thee?" (Haydock)

Gill: Job 15:1 - -- Then answered Eliphaz the Temanite,.... Or, who was of Teman, as the Targum, the first of Job's friends and comforters, the oldest of them, who first ...

Then answered Eliphaz the Temanite,.... Or, who was of Teman, as the Targum, the first of Job's friends and comforters, the oldest of them, who first began the dispute with him; which was carried on by his two other companions, who had spoken in their turns; and now in course it fell to him to answer a second time, as he here does,

and said,

as follows.

Gill: Job 15:2 - -- Should a wise man utter vain knowledge,.... As Job had been thought to be, or as he himself thought he was, which he might say sarcastically; or as he...

Should a wise man utter vain knowledge,.... As Job had been thought to be, or as he himself thought he was, which he might say sarcastically; or as he really was, not worldly wise, nor merely wise in things natural, but in things divine; being one that had the fear of God, which is the beginning of wisdom, and wisdom itself; believed in Christ, and walked wisely and circumspectly before men; now it is not becoming such a man to utter vain knowledge, or such knowledge as is like the wind, or, as the Targum, windy knowledge; empty, not solid, nor satisfying, but swells and puffs up, and is knowledge falsely so called; but it does not appear that Job did utter such vain and fruitless things as deserved to be compared to the wind:

and fill his belly with the east wind; which is noisy and blusterous, rapid and forcible, bearing all before it, and very infectious in hot countries; and such notions Job, according to Eliphaz, satisfied himself with, and endeavoured to insinuate them into others; which were nothing but great swelling words of vanity, and tended to subvert the faith of men, and overthrow all religion, and were very unwholesome, infectious, and ruinous to the minds of men, as suggested.

Gill: Job 15:3 - -- Should he reason with unprofitable talk?.... That is, the wise man, such a man as Job; does it become him to talk such idle stuff? that which is false...

Should he reason with unprofitable talk?.... That is, the wise man, such a man as Job; does it become him to talk such idle stuff? that which is false, and foolish, and frothy, that does not minister grace to the hearer, and is not for the use of edifying; as whatever is untrue, unwise, vain, and empty, must be useless and answer no good end; nothing is profitable but what tends to increase solid wisdom and spiritual knowledge, and to exercise grace, and influence an holy life; wherefore what are profitable to the souls of men are the doctrines of the word of God, and the experiences of the grace of God, communicated by his people one to another; and nothing but these, or what agrees with them, should come out of the mouth of a wise and good man; nor can such an one expect to convince men of their errors, or reprove them for their sins with success, who deals in words of no profit:

or with speeches wherewith he can do no good? but may do a great deal of hurt both to himself and others; but the same thing is here signified in different words,

Gill: Job 15:4 - -- Yea, thou castest off fear,.... Not of man; a slavish fear of man is to be cast off, because that brings a snare, deters men from their duty, and lead...

Yea, thou castest off fear,.... Not of man; a slavish fear of man is to be cast off, because that brings a snare, deters men from their duty, and leads into sin; though there is a fear and reverence of men which ought to be given to them, "fear to whom fear", Rom 13:7; but here the fear of God is meant, which is to be understood of the grace of fear, of which Job was possessed; that could not be cast off, for this is not what is in a man naturally, or is by the light of nature, and arises from natural conviction, which may be cast off, as was by Pharaoh; but this is a blessing of the covenant of grace, sure and firm, and is one of the gifts of grace that are without repentance; it is a part of internal grace, which can never be lost; it is improved and increased by fresh discoveries of the grace and goodness of God, and is an antidote and preservative against apostasy: perhaps the whole worship of God may be meant, external worship, or outward religion in the form of it, which is sometimes signified by the fear of God: Ecc 12:14; and it is cast off when it is neglected and not attended to, or when men become profane, after they have made a profession of religion; but as neither of these can be thought to be the case of Job, rather the meaning of Eliphaz may be, that Job did not show that reverence to God he should, as his words may seem, in Job 13:20; or that by his way of talk and reasoning, and by the notions he had imbibed and gave out, and the assertions he laid down, all religion would be made void among men; for if, as he had said, God "destroys the perfect and the wicked, and the tabernacles of robbers prosper, and the just men are laughed to scorn", Job 9:22; who would fear God? it might be inferred from hence, that it is a vain thing to serve him, and there can be no profit got by keeping his ordinances, and walking before him; this is the way to put an end to all religion, as if Eliphaz should say, and discourage all regard unto it:

and restrainest prayer before God; prayer is to be made to God and to him only, it is a part of religious worship, directed to by the light of nature, and ought to be performed by every man; it is a special privilege of the saints, who have a covenant God on a throne of grace to go to, and can pray in a spiritual manner for spiritual things; and especially is to be observed in times of trouble, in which Job now was, and never to be disused; now this charge either respects Job himself, that he left off praying, which can hardly be supposed; or that he drew out prayer to a great length, as some understand the words w, like the tautologies of the Heathen; or he diminished prayer, as others x, lessened the times of prayer, and the petitions in it: or rather it may respect others; not that it can be thought he should lay his injunctions on those over whom he had any authority, forbidding his servants, or those about him, to pray; but that by his manner of reasoning he discouraged prayer, as Eliphaz thought, as an useless thing; for if God laughs at the trials and afflictions of the innocent, and suffers wicked men to prosper, who would pray to him, or serve him? see Job 9:23.

Gill: Job 15:5 - -- For thy mouth uttereth thine iniquity,.... Which was in his heart, and so was an evidence against him, and proved him perverse, and made good the abov...

For thy mouth uttereth thine iniquity,.... Which was in his heart, and so was an evidence against him, and proved him perverse, and made good the above charges exhibited against him: or "thine iniquity teaches thy mouth" y; the wickedness that was in his heart prompted his mouth to speak the things he did, see Mat 12:34; and this, as it was an instance of his folly, Pro 15:2; so a proof of his casting off the fear of the Lord; for if that had been before his eyes, he would have bridled his lips, and not uttered all the wickedness of his heart: for he that "bridleth not his tongue, this man's religion is vain", Jam 1:26;

and thou choosest the tongue of the crafty; coloured over things under specious pretences of religion and godliness, so that the simple and ignorant took him for a holy good man, when he was at heart an hypocrite; in this light Eliphaz puts Job, as one that walked and talked in craftiness, and was a deceitful worker, and imposed upon men with false glosses and plausible pretences.

Gill: Job 15:6 - -- Thine own mouth condemneth thee, and not I,.... Or shows thee to be a wicked person, guilty of things charged upon thee; out of thine own mouth thou a...

Thine own mouth condemneth thee, and not I,.... Or shows thee to be a wicked person, guilty of things charged upon thee; out of thine own mouth thou art convicted, there needs no other evidence to be brought against thee, that is sufficient: and thou savest me, and any other, the trouble of passing the sentence of condemnation upon thee; thou hast done it thyself, thine own mouth is judge and jury, and brings in the verdict, and pronounces it, as well as is the witness, as follows, and is instead of a thousand witnesses, Job 9:20;

yea, thine own lips testify against thee; and therefore there were no need of producing any other testimony; what he had said showed that his talk was vain and unprofitable, unbecoming a wise man, and tending to make null and void the fear of God among men, to discourage all religious exercises, and particularly prayer before God.

Gill: Job 15:7 - -- Art thou the first man that was born?.... The first Adam, who was created in wisdom and knowledge, and had a large share of understanding in things ...

Art thou the first man that was born?.... The first Adam, who was created in wisdom and knowledge, and had a large share of understanding in things natural, civil, and moral; knew much of God and his perfections, of the works of nature, and of the wisdom and power of God displayed in them; one instance of which is his giving names to the creatures; dost thou think thou art that selfsame individual person, the father of all mankind, who had such a stock and fund of knowledge, until, by seeking after more, and that unlawful, he lost much of what he had? dost thou imagine that thou hast lived ever since, and seen or known everything that was done in all ages from the beginning, and hast gathered a large share of knowledge from long experience, and by making strict observations on men and things in such a length of time? or, as the Targum,

"wast thou born with the first man, without father and mother?''

and hast thou existed ever since? or, "wast thou born before Adam?" before the first man z? Art thou the wisdom and son of God, who was before Abraham, before Adam, before any creature whatever, was in the beginning with God, and was God? What dost thou make thyself to be, Job? thou, a mere man, dost thou make thyself to be the eternal God? for to be before the first man, or to be the firstborn of every creature, or to be born before every creature, is expressive of eternity, as is the following phrase:

or wast thou made before the hills? or existed before they did? as is said of the son of God, Pro 8:25; what is before the hills and mountains is eternal; the eternal God and his eternity are thus described, Psa 90:2.

Gill: Job 15:8 - -- Hast thou heard the secret of God?.... Or, "in the secret of God" a, in his cabinet council, what was said and done there? hast thou stood in the coun...

Hast thou heard the secret of God?.... Or, "in the secret of God" a, in his cabinet council, what was said and done there? hast thou stood in the council of God? hast thou been one of his privy council, or counsellors, and been let into all the secrets of God, of his purposes and providence, and into the reasons of all his administrations, that thou talkest so freely, and boldly, and confidently as thou dost? Indeed Christ, the son of God, was the Angel of the great council; the counsel of peace was between him and his Father; yea, he was in his bosom, and privy to all his thoughts, designs, and decrees, and knew everything, what would be, and the reasons thereof; as well as the nature of his Father, his perfections, mind, and will, which he has declared: but could Job pretend to this, or anything like it? no, surely. Indeed there are some secrets of God which he makes known to his people, and no doubt, in some measure, Job was acquainted with them; such as the secrets of God's love, and of the covenant of his grace, which are with them that fear him; and such an one Job was, and with whom, in times past at least, the secret of God was, even his everlasting love in the open manifestation of it to him; which is a secret in the heart of God, till revealed and shed abroad in the hearts of his people; and so the "mysteries" of God, as some render the word, the doctrines of the Gospel, the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, the knowledge of them, is given to the sons of men; Job was acquainted with them, with the incarnation of Christ, redemption by him, and the resurrection of the dead; the secrets of Providence, though they may not always be known now, they will be hereafter; yea, God does nothing but he reveals his secrets to his servants the prophets Amo 3:7, as he did to Abraham his friend; and as for the purposes of God, which are the secret things that belong to him, and can never be known unless revealed, and when fulfilled, even those, such as relate to the election of men, their redemption by Christ, and the effectual calling, are made known by God's saving and calling them according to them:

and dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? not keep it to himself without communicating it to others, which to do is to imprison the truth, and detain it in unrighteousness; as men have freely received, they should freely give; but he arrogated and ascribed wisdom to himself, monopolized it, and would allow no man to have any share of it but himself; he reckoned so highly of himself, as if he was the only wise man in the world; thus what he charged his friends with Eliphaz retorts upon himself, Job 12:2; as he does his own words in Job 15:9.

Gill: Job 15:9 - -- What knowest thou that we know not?.... Which are pretty near the words of Job to his friends, Job 12:3; and to the same sense is what follows: wh...

What knowest thou that we know not?.... Which are pretty near the words of Job to his friends, Job 12:3; and to the same sense is what follows:

what understandest thou which is not in us? in our hearts, minds, and understanding; or among us, which one or other, or all of us, have not: yet all men have not knowledge alike; some that profess themselves to be wise, and to have a large share of knowledge, are fools; and such who think they know something extraordinary, and more than others, know nothing as they ought to know; and such who have gifts of real knowledge have them different one from another; even of the things known there is not a like degree of knowledge, and particularly in spiritual things; some are little children in understanding, some are young men and know more, and some are fathers, and know most of all; an equality in knowledge belongs to another state, to the latter day glory, when the watchmen shall see eye to eye, and all shall know the Lord, from the least to the greatest, and especially to the ultimate glory, when saints will know as they are known.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Job 15:1 In the first round of speeches, Eliphaz had emphasized the moral perfection of God, Bildad his unwavering justice, and Zophar his omniscience. Since t...

NET Notes: Job 15:2 The word for “east wind,” קָדִים (qadim), is parallel to “spirit/wind” also in Hos 12:2. T...

NET Notes: Job 15:3 The verb סָכַן (sakhan) means “to be useful, profitable.” It is found 5 times in the book with this meaning....

NET Notes: Job 15:4 The word שִׂיחָה (sikhah) is “complaint; cry; meditation.” Job would be influencing people to ch...

NET Notes: Job 15:5 The word means “shrewd; crafty; cunning” (see Gen 3:1). Job uses clever speech that is misleading and destructive.

NET Notes: Job 15:6 The verb עָנָה (’anah) with the ל (lamed) preposition following it means “to testify against.” F...

NET Notes: Job 15:8 In v. 4 the word meant “limit”; here it has a slightly different sense, namely, “to reserve for oneself.”

NET Notes: Job 15:9 The last clause simply has “and it is not with us.” It means that one possesses something through knowledge. Note the parallelism of ̶...

Geneva Bible: Job 15:2 Should a wise man utter ( a ) vain knowledge, and fill his belly ( b ) with the east wind? ( a ) That is, vain words, and without consolation? ( b )...

Geneva Bible: Job 15:4 Yea, thou castest off ( c ) fear, and restrainest prayer before God. ( c ) He charges Job as though his talk caused men to cast off the fear of God a...

Geneva Bible: Job 15:5 For thy mouth uttereth thine iniquity, and thou choosest the ( d ) tongue of the crafty. ( d ) You speak as the mockers and contemners of God do.

Geneva Bible: Job 15:7 [Art] thou the ( e ) first man [that] was born? or wast thou made before the hills? ( e ) That is, the most ancient and so by reason the most wise?

Geneva Bible: Job 15:8 Hast thou heard the secret of God? and dost thou restrain wisdom ( f ) to thyself? ( f ) Are you only wise?

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Job 15:1-35 - --1 Eliphaz reproves Job for impiety in justifying himself.17 He proves by tradition the unquietness of wicked men.

MHCC: Job 15:1-16 - --Eliphaz begins a second attack upon Job, instead of being softened by his complaints. He unjustly charges Job with casting off the fear of God, and al...

Matthew Henry: Job 15:1-16 - -- Eliphaz here falls very foul upon Job, because he contradicted what he and his colleagues had said, and did not acquiesce in it and applaud it, as t...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 15:1-6 - -- 1 Then began Eliphaz the Temanite, and said: 2 Doth a wise man utter vain knowledge, And fill his breast with the east wind? 3 Contending with wo...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 15:7-10 - -- 7 Wast thou as the first one born as a man, And hast thou been brought forth before the hills? 8 Hast thou attended to the counsel of Eloah, And ...

Constable: Job 15:1--21:34 - --C. The Second Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 15-21 In the second cycle of spee...

Constable: Job 15:1-35 - --1. Eliphaz's second speech ch. 15 Job's responses so far had evidently convinced Eliphaz that Jo...

Constable: Job 15:1-16 - --Job's attitude rebuked 15:1-16 Specifically Eliphaz accused Job of speaking irreverently...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Job (Book Introduction) JOB A REAL PERSON.--It has been supposed by some that the book of Job is an allegory, not a real narrative, on account of the artificial character of ...

JFB: Job (Outline) THE HOLINESS OF JOB, HIS WEALTH, &c. (Job 1:1-5) SATAN, APPEARING BEFORE GOD, FALSELY ACCUSES JOB. (Job 1:6-12) SATAN FURTHER TEMPTS JOB. (Job 2:1-8)...

TSK: Job (Book Introduction) A large aquatic animal, perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, the exact meaning is unknown. Some think this to be a crocodile but from the desc...

TSK: Job 15 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Job 15:1, Eliphaz reproves Job for impiety in justifying himself; v.17, He proves by tradition the unquietness of wicked men.

Poole: Job 15 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 15 Eliphaz’ s reproof: Job’ s knowledge and talk vain; he feareth not God, nor prayeth to him; but his own mouth uttered his iniq...

MHCC: Job (Book Introduction) This book is so called from Job, whose prosperity, afflictions, and restoration, are here recorded. He lived soon after Abraham, or perhaps before tha...

MHCC: Job 15 (Chapter Introduction) (v. 1-16) Eliphaz reproves Job. (v. 17-35) The unquietness of wicked men.

Matthew Henry: Job (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Job This book of Job stands by itself, is not connected with any other, and is therefore to...

Matthew Henry: Job 15 (Chapter Introduction) Perhaps Job was so clear, and so well satisfied, in the goodness of his own cause, that he thought, if he had not convinced, yet he had at least si...

Constable: Job (Book Introduction) Introduction Title This book, like many others in the Old Testament, got its name from...

Constable: Job (Outline) Outline I. Prologue chs. 1-2 A. Job's character 1:1-5 B. Job's calamitie...

Constable: Job Job Bibliography Andersen, Francis I. Job. Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries series. Leicester, Eng. and Downe...

Haydock: Job (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF JOB. INTRODUCTION. This Book takes its name from the holy man, of whom it treats; who, according to the more probable opinion, was ...

Gill: Job (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB This book, in the Hebrew copies, generally goes by this name, from Job, who is however the subject, if not the writer of it. In...

Gill: Job 15 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB 15 Job's three friends having in their turns attacked him, and he having given answer respectively to them, Eliphaz, who began ...

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