
Text -- Job 32:13 (NET)




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Wesley: Job 32:13 - -- God thus left you to your own weakness, lest you should ascribe the conquering or silencing of Job to your own wisdom.
God thus left you to your own weakness, lest you should ascribe the conquering or silencing of Job to your own wisdom.

Wesley: Job 32:13 - -- This is alleged by Elihu, in the person of Job's three friends; the sense is, the judgments which are upon Job, have not been brought upon him by man ...
This is alleged by Elihu, in the person of Job's three friends; the sense is, the judgments which are upon Job, have not been brought upon him by man originally, but by the hand of God, for his gross, though secret sins: but, saith Elihu, this argument doth not satisfy me, and therefore bear with me if I seek for better.
JFB -> Job 32:13
JFB: Job 32:13 - -- This has been so ordered, "lest you should" pride yourselves on having overcome him by your "wisdom" (Jer 9:23, the great aim of the Book of Job); and...
This has been so ordered, "lest you should" pride yourselves on having overcome him by your "wisdom" (Jer 9:23, the great aim of the Book of Job); and that you may see, "God alone can thrust him down," that is, confute him, "not man." So Elihu grounds his confutation, not on the maxims of sages, as the friends did, but on his special commission from God (Job 32:8; Job 33:4, Job 33:6).
Clarke: Job 32:13 - -- We have found out wisdom - We by dint of our own wisdom and understanding, have found out the true system of God’ s providence; and have been a...
We have found out wisdom - We by dint of our own wisdom and understanding, have found out the true system of God’ s providence; and have been able to account for all the sufferings and tribulations of Job. Had they been able to confute Job, they would have triumphed over him in their own self-sufficiency

Clarke: Job 32:13 - -- God thrusteth him down, not man - This is no accidental thing that has happened to him: he is suffering under the just judgments of God, and therefo...
God thrusteth him down, not man - This is no accidental thing that has happened to him: he is suffering under the just judgments of God, and therefore he must be the wicked man which we supposed him to be.
TSK -> Job 32:13
TSK: Job 32:13 - -- Lest : Gen 14:23; Jdg 7:2; Isa 48:5, Isa 48:7; Zec 12:7
We : Job 12:2, Job 15:8-10; Isa 5:21; Jer 9:23; Eze 28:3; 1Co 1:19-21, 1Co 1:27-29; 1Co 3:18
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Barnes -> Job 32:13
Barnes: Job 32:13 - -- Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom - That is, this has been permitted and ordered in such a manner that it might be manifest that the...
Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom - That is, this has been permitted and ordered in such a manner that it might be manifest that the truths which are to convince him come from God and not from man. You were not permitted to refute or convince him, for if you had been you would have been lifted up with pride, and would have attributed to yourselves what belongs to God. This is in accordance with the entire drift of the book, which is to introduce the Almighty himself to settle the controversy when human wisdom failed. They could not arrogate to themselves the claim that they had found out wisdom. They had been completely silenced by Job; they had no power to drive him from his positions; they could not explain the divine dealings so as to settle the great inquiry in which they had been engaged. Elihu proposes to do it, and to do it in such a way as to show that it could be accomplished only by that wisdom which is from above.
God thrusteth him down, not man - These are the words of Elihu. The meaning is, "God only can drive Job from his position, and show him the truth, and humble him. The wisdom of man fails. The aged, the experienced, and the wise have been unable to meet his arguments and bring him down from the positions which he has taken. That work can be done only by God himself, or by the wisdom which he only can give."Accordingly Elihu, who proposes to meet the arguments of Job, makes no appeal to experience or observation; he does not ground what he says on the maxims of sages or the results of reflection, but proposes to adduce the precepts of wisdom which God had imparted to him; Job 33:4, Job 33:6. Other interpretations have, however, been given of this verse, but the above seems to me the most simple, and most in accordance with the scope of the passage.
Poole -> Job 32:13
Poole: Job 32:13 - -- Lest ye should say it is a defective speech, and may be thus supplied: Thus it was, or God thus left you to your own weakness, and mistakes, and impe...
Lest ye should say it is a defective speech, and may be thus supplied: Thus it was, or God thus left you to your own weakness, and mistakes, and impertinent discourses, lest ye should say , &c., i.e. lest you should ascribe the conquering or silencing of Job to your own wisdom, age, and experience; or lest you should boastingly say, We have discovered and said all that can or need be said in the cause, the sum and substance of the thing, that which may fully and finally end the controversy, which is contained in the following words.
God thrusteth him down, not man: these are alleged by Elihu, in the person of Job’ s three friends, or as their words. The sense is, The stupendous judgments which are upon Job have not been brought upon him by man solely and originally, for then there might have been some ground for Job’ s complaints, there might have been injustice or cruelty in them; but immediately by the hand of God, of that God, who being omniscient, and just, and true, and merciful, would never have dealt thus hardly with Job if he were not a hypocrite, and guilty of some very gross, though secret, sins; which is the ground-work of our discourses. But, saith Elihu, this argument doth not satisfy me, and therefore bear with me if I seek for better.
Haydock -> Job 32:13
Haydock: Job 32:13 - -- Man. You seem to think this a convincing proof that Job is guilty: (Ven. Bede; Haydock) but it is no such thing. You would fain excuse yourselves f...
Man. You seem to think this a convincing proof that Job is guilty: (Ven. Bede; Haydock) but it is no such thing. You would fain excuse yourselves from saying any more, for fear of causing him pain, which is already very great; and you vainly imagine that you may thus leave him to be judged by God. We must however convince Job. (Calmet)
Gill -> Job 32:13
Gill: Job 32:13 - -- Lest ye should say, we have found out wisdom,.... They were left to themselves, and not directed to take the proper methods of convincing Job, and ans...
Lest ye should say, we have found out wisdom,.... They were left to themselves, and not directed to take the proper methods of convincing Job, and answering his arguments; lest they should be wise in their own conceits, and attribute too much to themselves; or Elihu told them this, that they had not convicted Job, though they had condemned him, nor answered his arguments, though they had left off speaking; and this he was obliged to say, and that for the reason before observed: for all wisdom is of God, and not to be found out or acquired by men; not natural wisdom, that is not of men, but of God, and especially supernatural wisdom, or the knowledge of divine and spiritual things, and the reason of God's dealings with the sons of men in the different manner he does, see Job 28:12;
God thrusteth him down, not man: some think Elihu says this in reference to himself, whom God would make use of as an instrument to convince Job and answer his arguments; and that he would ascribe this not to himself, but to God; they took a natural way to convince Job, which failed, that they might not be proud of their own wisdom; he should take a more divine and spiritual method, and, if he succeeded, he should give all the glory to God, and ascribe nothing to himself: as in the conviction and conversion of a sinner, though ministers are instruments, it is not by might or power of men, but by the Spirit of the Lord of Hosts; it is God that thrusts down man from a vain opinion he has of himself; that convinces him of sin, that takes him off of his own righteousness, and humbles him, and lays him low at his feet: but they rather seem to be the words of Job's friends, as related by Elihu; and the sense is in connection with the former, either that they found it was the wisest method they could take with Job to be silent, and leave him to himself, lest they should add to his afflict; on; to which Jarchi inclines, who paraphrases it,
"we found wisdom by our silence, that we may not provoke him any more;''
which, if their sense, shows more tenderness and compassion than they had hitherto expressed, and answers pretty much to the advice given 2Co 2:6; or else their meaning is, that they found it the best and wisest way to leave him with God, he being so obstinate and incorrigible that none but God could move him; it was not in the power of men, or of words used by men, to make him sensible of things; or rather the meaning is, Elihu was obliged to tell them, that none of them had convinced Job, or answered his arguments, lest they should say, we have found out a wise and strong argument, proving the charge brought against him, that he must be a wicked man and an hypocrite, since God has so sorely afflicted him, and thrust him down from all his grandeur and dignity; which no man could ever have done, and God would not, if he had not been the man we suppose him to be; now Elihu's view is to observe to them, that there was nothing in this argument convincing, in which they imagined so much wisdom lay. Job's afflictions, indeed, were of God, and not men; and which he often owns himself; but this was no proof or argument of his being a wicked man: Mr. Broughton renders the words,
"the Omnipotent doth toss him, not man.''

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NET Notes: Job 32:13 The root is נָדַף (nadaf, “to drive away; to drive off”). Here it is in the abstract sense of “succeed...
Geneva Bible -> Job 32:13
Geneva Bible: Job 32:13 Lest ye should say, We have ( h ) found out wisdom: God thrusteth him down, not man.
( h ) Flatter yourselves as though you had overcome him.

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 32:1-22
TSK Synopsis: Job 32:1-22 - --1 Elihu is angry with Job and his three friends.6 Because wisdom comes not from age, he excuses the boldness of his youth.11 He reproves them for not ...
MHCC -> Job 32:6-14
MHCC: Job 32:6-14 - --Elihu professes to speak by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and corrects both parties. He allowed that those who had the longest experience should...
Matthew Henry -> Job 32:6-14
Matthew Henry: Job 32:6-14 - -- Elihu here appears to have been, I. A man of great modesty and humility. Though a young man, and a man of abilities, yet not pert, and confident, an...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Job 32:11-14
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 32:11-14 - --
11 Behold, I waited upon your words,
Hearkened to your perceptions,
While ye searched out replies.
12 And I attended closely to you,
Yet behold:...
Constable: Job 32:1--37:24 - --F. Elihu's Speeches chs. 32-37
Many critical scholars believe that a later editor inserted chapters 32-3...

Constable: Job 32:6--34:1 - --2. Elihu's first speech 32:6-33:33
Before Elihu began presenting his views (ch. 33), he first ha...
