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Text -- Job 9:21-35 (NET)
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Wesley -> Job 9:21; Job 9:22; Job 9:22; Job 9:23; Job 9:23; Job 9:24; Job 9:24; Job 9:24; Job 9:25; Job 9:25; Job 9:25; Job 9:25; Job 9:26; Job 9:26; Job 9:28; Job 9:28; Job 9:29; Job 9:29; Job 9:30; Job 9:31; Job 9:31; Job 9:32; Job 9:32; Job 9:32; Job 9:33; Job 9:33; Job 9:33; Job 9:34; Job 9:35; Job 9:35
Wesley: Job 9:21 - -- If I should think myself perfect, yet I would not know, not acknowledge, my soul; I could not own nor plead before God the integrity of my soul, but w...
If I should think myself perfect, yet I would not know, not acknowledge, my soul; I could not own nor plead before God the integrity of my soul, but would only make supplication to my judge, I would abhor, or condemn my life, I would not trust to the integrity either of my soul and heart, or of my life, so as to justify myself before the pure and piercing eyes of the all - seeing God.
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Wesley: Job 9:22 - -- In the other things which you have spoken of God's greatness, and justice, I do not contend with you, but this one thing I do, and must affirm against...
In the other things which you have spoken of God's greatness, and justice, I do not contend with you, but this one thing I do, and must affirm against you.
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God sends afflictions promiscuously upon good and bad men.
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If some common judgment come upon a people.
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Wesley: Job 9:23 - -- God will be well pleased, to see how the same scourge, which is the perdition of the wicked, is the trial of the innocent, and of their faith, which w...
God will be well pleased, to see how the same scourge, which is the perdition of the wicked, is the trial of the innocent, and of their faith, which will be found unto praise and honour and glory.
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Wesley: Job 9:24 - -- Into their power. As good men are frequently scourged, so the wicked are advanced.
Into their power. As good men are frequently scourged, so the wicked are advanced.
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Wesley: Job 9:24 - -- Meantime he covers the faces of wise and good men, fit to be judges, and buries them alive in obscurity, perhaps suffers them to be condemned, and the...
Meantime he covers the faces of wise and good men, fit to be judges, and buries them alive in obscurity, perhaps suffers them to be condemned, and their faces covered as criminals, by those to whom the earth is given. This is daily done: if it be not God that doth it, where and who is he that doth?
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Wesley: Job 9:25 - -- What he had said of the calamities which God frequently inflicts upon good men, he now exemplifies in himself.
What he had said of the calamities which God frequently inflicts upon good men, he now exemplifies in himself.
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Wesley: Job 9:25 - -- I enjoy no good in them. Seeing is often put for experiencing either good or evil.
I enjoy no good in them. Seeing is often put for experiencing either good or evil.
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Wesley: Job 9:26 - -- Which flies swiftly, especially when in the sight of his prey. See here how swift the motion of time is! It is always upon the wing, hastening to its ...
Which flies swiftly, especially when in the sight of his prey. See here how swift the motion of time is! It is always upon the wing, hastening to its period.
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Wesley: Job 9:26 - -- times! What great need to redeem time, which runs out, runs on so fast toward eternity! And how vain are the enjoyments of time, which we may be depri...
times! What great need to redeem time, which runs out, runs on so fast toward eternity! And how vain are the enjoyments of time, which we may be deprived of, even while time continues! Our day may be longer than our sunshine: and when that is gone, it is as if it had never been.
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Wesley: Job 9:28 - -- I find all such endeavours vain; for if my griefs be suspended for a time, yet my fears continue.
I find all such endeavours vain; for if my griefs be suspended for a time, yet my fears continue.
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Wesley: Job 9:28 - -- I plainly perceive thou, O God, (to whom he makes a sudden address, as he doth also, Job 9:31,) wilt not clear my innocency by removing those afflicti...
I plainly perceive thou, O God, (to whom he makes a sudden address, as he doth also, Job 9:31,) wilt not clear my innocency by removing those afflictions which make them judge me guilty of some great crime. Words proceeding from despair and impatience.
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I shall be used like a wicked man still.
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Wesley: Job 9:29 - -- Why then should I comfort myself with vain hopes of deliverance, as thou advisest me.
Why then should I comfort myself with vain hopes of deliverance, as thou advisest me.
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Wesley: Job 9:30 - -- If I clear myself from all imputations, and fully prove my innocency before men.
If I clear myself from all imputations, and fully prove my innocency before men.
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Wesley: Job 9:31 - -- God would prove him to be a most guilty creature, notwithstanding all his purity before men.
God would prove him to be a most guilty creature, notwithstanding all his purity before men.
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Wesley: Job 9:31 - -- I shall be so filthy, that my own clothes, if they had any sense in them, would abhor to touch me.
I shall be so filthy, that my own clothes, if they had any sense in them, would abhor to touch me.
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Wesley: Job 9:32 - -- But one infinitely superior to me in majesty, and power, and wisdom, and justice.
But one infinitely superior to me in majesty, and power, and wisdom, and justice.
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That I should presume to debate my cause with him.
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Face to face, to plead upon equal terms.
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Order and govern us in pleading; and oblige us to stand to his decision.
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Wesley: Job 9:33 - -- man, who has mediated between heaven and earth, has laid his hand upon us both: to him the father hath committed all judgment. But this was not made s...
man, who has mediated between heaven and earth, has laid his hand upon us both: to him the father hath committed all judgment. But this was not made so clear then, as it is now by the gospel, which leaves no room for such a complaint as this.
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Wesley: Job 9:34 - -- The fear and dread of his majesty and justice. Let him not deal with me according to his perfect justice, but according to his grace and clemency.
The fear and dread of his majesty and justice. Let him not deal with me according to his perfect justice, but according to his grace and clemency.
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Wesley: Job 9:35 - -- I would speak freely for myself, being freed from that dread, which takes away my spirit and courage.
I would speak freely for myself, being freed from that dread, which takes away my spirit and courage.
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I am not free from his terror, and therefore cannot plead my cause with him.
JFB: Job 9:21 - -- Literally, here (and in Job 9:20), "I perfect! I should not know my soul! I would despise," [that is], "disown my life"; that is, Though conscious of ...
Literally, here (and in Job 9:20), "I perfect! I should not know my soul! I would despise," [that is], "disown my life"; that is, Though conscious of innocence, I should be compelled, in contending with the infinite God, to ignore my own soul and despise my past life as if it were guilty [ROSENMULLER].
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JFB: Job 9:22 - -- "It is all one; whether perfect or wicked--He destroyeth." This was the point Job maintained against his friends, that the righteous and wicked alike ...
"It is all one; whether perfect or wicked--He destroyeth." This was the point Job maintained against his friends, that the righteous and wicked alike are afflicted, and that great sufferings here do not prove great guilt (Luk 13:1-5; Ecc 9:2).
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JFB: Job 9:23 - -- Rather, "While (His) scourge slays suddenly (the wicked, Job 9:22), He laughs at (disregards; not derides) the pining away of the innocent." The only ...
Rather, "While (His) scourge slays suddenly (the wicked, Job 9:22), He laughs at (disregards; not derides) the pining away of the innocent." The only difference, says Job, between the innocent and guilty is, the latter are slain by a sudden stroke, the former pine away gradually. The translation, "trial," does not express the antithesis to "slay suddenly," as "pining away" does [UMBREIT].
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JFB: Job 9:24 - -- Culprits had their faces covered preparatory to execution (Est 7:8). Thus the contrast of the wicked and righteous here answers to that in Job 9:23.
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JFB: Job 9:24 - -- If God be not the cause of these anomalies, where is the cause to be found, and who is he?
If God be not the cause of these anomalies, where is the cause to be found, and who is he?
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JFB: Job 9:25 - -- A courier. In the wide Persian empire such couriers, on dromedaries or on foot, were employed to carry the royal commands to the distant provinces (Es...
A courier. In the wide Persian empire such couriers, on dromedaries or on foot, were employed to carry the royal commands to the distant provinces (Est 3:13, Est 3:15; Est 8:14). "My days" are not like the slow caravan, but the fleet post. The "days" are themselves poetically said to "see no good," instead of Job in them (1Pe 3:10).
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JFB: Job 9:26 - -- Rather, canoes of reeds or papyrus skiffs, used on the Nile, swift from their lightness (Isa 18:2).
Rather, canoes of reeds or papyrus skiffs, used on the Nile, swift from their lightness (Isa 18:2).
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JFB: Job 9:28 - -- "If I say, &c." "I still am afraid of all my sorrows (returning), for I know that thou wilt (dost) (by removing my sufferings) not hold or declare me ...
"If I say, &c." "I still am afraid of all my sorrows (returning), for I know that thou wilt (dost) (by removing my sufferings) not hold or declare me innocent. How then can I leave off my heaviness?"
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JFB: Job 9:29 - -- The "if" is better omitted; I (am treated by God as) wicked; why then labor I in vain (to disprove His charge)? Job submits, not so much because he is...
The "if" is better omitted; I (am treated by God as) wicked; why then labor I in vain (to disprove His charge)? Job submits, not so much because he is convinced that God is right, as because God is powerful and he weak [BARNES].
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JFB: Job 9:30 - -- Thought to be more cleansing than common water, owing to the whiteness of snow (Psa 51:7; Isa 1:18).
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JFB: Job 9:30 - -- Better, to answer to the parallelism of the first clause which expresses the cleansing material, "lye:" the Arabs used alkali mixed with oil, as soap ...
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JFB: Job 9:33 - -- "mediator," or "umpire"; the imposition of whose hand expresses power to adjudicate between the persons. There might be one on a level with Job, the o...
"mediator," or "umpire"; the imposition of whose hand expresses power to adjudicate between the persons. There might be one on a level with Job, the one party; but Job knew of none on a level with the Almighty, the other party (1Sa 2:25). We Christians know of such a Mediator (not, however, in the sense of umpire) on a level with both--the God-man, Christ Jesus (1Ti 2:5).
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JFB: Job 9:34 - -- Not here the symbol of punishment, but of power. Job cannot meet God on fair terms so long as God deals with him on the footing of His almighty power.
Not here the symbol of punishment, but of power. Job cannot meet God on fair terms so long as God deals with him on the footing of His almighty power.
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JFB: Job 9:35 - -- As it now is, God not taking His rod away, I am not on such a footing of equality as to be able to vindicate myself.
As it now is, God not taking His rod away, I am not on such a footing of equality as to be able to vindicate myself.
Clarke: Job 9:21 - -- Though I were perfect - Had I the fullest conviction that, in every thought, word, and deed, I were blameless before him, yet I would not plead this...
Though I were perfect - Had I the fullest conviction that, in every thought, word, and deed, I were blameless before him, yet I would not plead this; nor would I think it any security for a life of ease and prosperity, or any proof that my days should be prolonged.
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Clarke: Job 9:22 - -- This is one thing - My own observation shows, that in the course of providence the righteous and the wicked have an equal lot; for when any sudden c...
This is one thing - My own observation shows, that in the course of providence the righteous and the wicked have an equal lot; for when any sudden calamity comes, the innocent and the guilty fall alike. There may be a few exceptions, but they are very extraordinary, and very rare.
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Clarke: Job 9:24 - -- The earth is given into the hand of the wicked - Is it not most evident that the worst men possess most of this world’ s goods, and that the ri...
The earth is given into the hand of the wicked - Is it not most evident that the worst men possess most of this world’ s goods, and that the righteous are scarcely ever in power or affluence? This was the case in Job’ s time; it is the case still. Therefore prosperity and adversity in this life are no marks either of God’ s approbation or disapprobation
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Clarke: Job 9:24 - -- He covereth the faces of the judges thereon - Or, The faces of its decisions he shall cover. God is often stated in Scripture as doing a thing which...
He covereth the faces of the judges thereon - Or, The faces of its decisions he shall cover. God is often stated in Scripture as doing a thing which he only permits to be done. So he permits the eyes of judgment to be blinded; and hence false decisions. Mr. Good translates the verse thus: -
"The earth is given over to the hand of Injustice
She hoodwinketh the faces of its judges
Where every one liveth is it not so?
And vindicates the translation in his learned notes: but I think the Hebrew will not bear this rendering; especially that in the third line
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Clarke: Job 9:24 - -- Where, and who is he? - If this be not the case, who is he that acts in this way, and where is he to be found? If God does not permit these things, ...
Where, and who is he? - If this be not the case, who is he that acts in this way, and where is he to be found? If God does not permit these things, who is it that orders them? Coverdale translates, As for the worlde, he geveth it over into the power of the wicked, such as the rulers be wherof all londes are full. Is it not so? Where is there eny, but he is soch one? This sense is clear enough, if the original will bear it. The last clause is thus rendered by the Syriac and Arabic, Who can bear his indignation?
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Clarke: Job 9:25 - -- Swifter than a post - מני רץ minni rats , than a runner. The light-footed messenger or courier who carries messages from place to place. They ...
Swifter than a post -
Sed Fugit interea, Cubit Irreparabile tempus ! -
"But in the meanwhile time flies! irreparable time flies away!"
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Clarke: Job 9:26 - -- As the swift ships - אניות אבה oniyoth ebeh . Ships of desire, or ships of Ebeh, says our margin; perhaps more correctly, inflated ships, ...
As the swift ships -
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Clarke: Job 9:27 - -- I will forget my complaint - I will forsake or forego my complaining. I will leave off my heaviness. Vulgate, I will change my countenance - force m...
I will forget my complaint - I will forsake or forego my complaining. I will leave off my heaviness. Vulgate, I will change my countenance - force myself to smile, and endeavor to assume the appearance of comfort.
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Clarke: Job 9:28 - -- I am afraid of all my sorrows - Coverdale translates, after the Vulgate, Then am I afrayed of all my workes. Even were I to cease from complaining,...
I am afraid of all my sorrows - Coverdale translates, after the Vulgate, Then am I afrayed of all my workes. Even were I to cease from complaining, I fear lest not one of my works, however well intentioned, would stand thy scrutiny, or meet with thy approbation
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Clarke: Job 9:28 - -- Thou wilt not hold me innocent - Coverdale, after the Vulgate, For I knowe thou favourest not an evil doer; but this is not the sense of the origin...
Thou wilt not hold me innocent - Coverdale, after the Vulgate, For I knowe thou favourest not an evil doer; but this is not the sense of the original: Thou wilt not acquit me so as to take away my afflictions from me.
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Clarke: Job 9:29 - -- If I be wicked - If I am the sinner you suppose me to be, in vain should I labor to counterfeit joy, and cease to complain of my sufferings.
If I be wicked - If I am the sinner you suppose me to be, in vain should I labor to counterfeit joy, and cease to complain of my sufferings.
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Clarke: Job 9:30 - -- If I wash myself with snow water - Supposed to have a more detergent quality than common water; and it was certainly preferred to common water by th...
If I wash myself with snow water - Supposed to have a more detergent quality than common water; and it was certainly preferred to common water by the ancients. Of this we find an example in an elegant but licentious author: Tandem ergo discubuimus, pueris Alexandrinis Aquam in manus Nivatam infundentibus, aliisque insequentibus ad pedes - Petr. Satyr., cap. xxxi. "At length we sat down, and had snow water poured on our hands by lads of Alexandria,"etc. Mr. Good supposes that there is an allusion here to the ancient rite of washing the hands in token of innocence. See Psa 26:6 : I will Wash my hands in Innocency; and Psa 73:13 : Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and Washed my Hands in Innocency. And by this ceremony Pilate declared himself innocent of the blood of Christ, Mat 27:24.
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Clarke: Job 9:31 - -- And mine own clothes shall abhor me - Such is thine infinite purity, when put in opposition to the purity of man, that it will bear no comparison. S...
And mine own clothes shall abhor me - Such is thine infinite purity, when put in opposition to the purity of man, that it will bear no comparison. Searched and tried by the eye of God, I should be found as a leper, so that my own clothes would dread to touch me, for fear of being infected by my corruption. This is a strong and bold figure; and is derived from the corrupted state of his body, which his clothes dreaded to touch, because of the contagious nature of his disorder.
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Clarke: Job 9:32 - -- For he is not a man as I am - I cannot contend with him as with one of my fellows in a court of justice.
For he is not a man as I am - I cannot contend with him as with one of my fellows in a court of justice.
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Clarke: Job 9:33 - -- Neither is there any day’ s-man - בינינו מוכיח beyneynu mochiach , a reprover, arguer, or umpire between us. Day’ s - Man, in ...
Neither is there any day’ s-man -
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Clarke: Job 9:34 - -- Let him take his rod away - In the Masoretic Bibles, the word שבטו shibto , his rod, is written with a large ט teth , as above; and as the le...
Let him take his rod away - In the Masoretic Bibles, the word
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Clarke: Job 9:35 - -- But it is not so with me - I am not in such circumstances as to plead with my Judge. I believe the sense of these words is nearly as Coverdale has e...
But it is not so with me - I am not in such circumstances as to plead with my Judge. I believe the sense of these words is nearly as Coverdale has expressed it: - For as longe as I am in soch fearfulnesse, I can make no answere. A natural picture of the state of a penitent soul, which needs no additional coloring
On the names of the constellations mentioned Job 9:9, and again Job 38:31, etc., much has been written, and to little effect. I have already, in the notes, expressed my doubts whether any constellation be intended. Dr. Hales, however, finds in these names, as he thinks, astronomical data, by which he ascertains the time of Job. I shall give his words: -
"The cardinal constellations of spring and autumn, in Job’ s time, were Chimah, and Chesil or Taurus, and Scorpio; noticed Job 9:9, and again, Job 38:31, Job 38:32; of which the principal stars are, Aldebaran, the bull’ s eye, and Antares, the scorpion’ s heart. Knowing, therefore, the longitudes of these stars, at present, the interval of time from thence to the assumed date of Job’ s trial will give the difference of the longitudes; and ascertain their positions then, with respect to the vernal and autumnal points of intersection of the equinoctial and ecliptic; according to the usual rate of the precession of the equinoxes, one degree in 71 years. See that article, vol. i. p. 185
"The following calculations I owe to the kindness and skill of the respectable Dr. Brinkley, Andrew’ s Professor of Astronomy in the University of Dublin
"In a.d. 1800 Aldebaran was in 2 signs, 7 degrees, east longitude. But since the date of Job’ s trial, b.c. 2338, i.e., 4138 years, the precession of the equinoxes amounted to 1 sign, 27 degrees, 53 minutes; which, being subtracted from the former quantity, left Aldebaran in only 9 degrees, 7 minutes longitude, or distance from the vernal intersection; which, falling within the constellation Taurus, consequently rendered it the cardinal constellation of spring, as Pisces is at present
"In a.d. 1800 Antares was in 8 signs, 6 degrees, 58 minutes, east longitude; or 2 signs, 6 degrees, 58 minutes, east of the autumnal intersection: from which subtracting as before the amount of the precession, Antares was left only 9 degrees, 5 minutes east. Since then, the autumnal equinox was found within Scorpio, this was the cardinal constellation of autumn, as Virgo is at present
"Such a combination and coincidence of various rays of evidence, derived from widely different sources, history, sacred and profane, chronology, and astronomy, and all converging to the same focus, tend strongly to establish the time of Job’ s trial, as rightly assigned to the year b.c. 2337, or 818 years after the deluge, 184 years before the birth of Abram; 474 years before the settlement of Jacob’ s family in Egypt; and 689 years before their exode or departure from thence."New Analysis of Chronology, vol. ii., p. 57
Now all this is specious; and, were the foundation sound, we might rely on the permanence of the building, though the rains should descend, the floods come, and the winds blow and beat on that house. But all these deductions and conclusions are founded on the assumption that Chimah and Chesil mean Taurus and Scorpio: but this is the very point that is to be proved; for proof of this is not offered, nor, indeed, can be offered; and such assumptions are palpably nugatory. That
Qui facit Arcturum. Diversae sunt constellationes, varios status ecclesiae signantes. Per Arcturum, qui semper super orizontem nostrum apparet, significatur status apostolorum qui in episcopis remanet. Per Oriona, qui est tempestatis signum, significatur status martyrum. Per Hyadas, quae significant pluvios, status doctorum doctrinae pluvium effundentium. Per interiora austri, quae sunt nobis occulta, status Anachoretarum, hominum aspectus declinantium . "These different constellations signify various states of the Church. By Arcturus, which always appears above our horizon, is signified the apostolic state, which still remains in episcopacy. By Orion, which is a tempestuous sign, is signified the state of the martyrs. By the Hyades, (kids), which indicate rain, the state of the doctors, pouring out the rain of doctrine, is signified. And by the inner chambers of the south, which are hidden from us, the state of the Anchorets (hermits) is signified, who always shun the sight of men.
Much more of the same allegorical matter may be found in the same place, the Glossa Ordinaria of Strabus of Fulda, on the ninth chapter of Job. But how unreal and empty are all these things! What an uncertain sound do such trumpets give!
Defender -> Job 9:33
Defender: Job 9:33 - -- The word "daysman" means "umpire" or "judge" or even better, "mediator." Job fervently desired to argue his case, as it were, before God, but he reali...
The word "daysman" means "umpire" or "judge" or even better, "mediator." Job fervently desired to argue his case, as it were, before God, but he realized that "he is not a man, as I am" (Job 9:32), so there was no way that "we should come together in judgment" (Job 9:32). How could there be a mediator between God and a man, unless that mediator could somehow be both God and man?"
TSK: Job 9:21 - -- yet would : Psa 139:23, Psa 139:24; Pro 28:26; Jer 17:9, Jer 17:10; 1Co 4:4; 1Jo 3:20
I would : Job 7:15, Job 7:16, Job 7:21
yet would : Psa 139:23, Psa 139:24; Pro 28:26; Jer 17:9, Jer 17:10; 1Co 4:4; 1Jo 3:20
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TSK: Job 9:23 - -- If the : Job 1:13-19, Job 2:7
he will : Job 4:7, Job 8:20; 2Sa 14:15, 2Sa 14:17; Psa 44:22; Eze 14:19-21, Eze 21:13; Heb 11:36, Heb 11:37
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TSK: Job 9:24 - -- earth : Job 12:6-10, Job 21:7-15; Psa 17:14, Psa 73:3-7; Jer 12:1, Jer 12:2; Dan 4:17, Dan 5:18-21; Dan. 7:7-28; Hab 1:14-17
he covereth : 2Sa 15:30, ...
earth : Job 12:6-10, Job 21:7-15; Psa 17:14, Psa 73:3-7; Jer 12:1, Jer 12:2; Dan 4:17, Dan 5:18-21; Dan. 7:7-28; Hab 1:14-17
he covereth : 2Sa 15:30, 2Sa 19:4; Est 6:12, Est 7:8; Jer 14:4
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TSK: Job 9:25 - -- swifter : Job 7:6, Job 7:7; Est 8:14
a post : Rotz , a runner, or courier; some of whom are said to go 150 miles in less than 24 hours.
they flee aw...
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TSK: Job 9:26 - -- swift ships : Heb. ships of desire, or, ships of Ebeh
as the eagle : Job 39:27-30; 2Sa 1:23; Pro 23:5; Jer 4:13; Lam 4:19; Hab 1:8
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TSK: Job 9:28 - -- afraid : Job 21:6; Psa 88:15, Psa 88:16, Psa 119:120
I know : Job 9:2, Job 9:20, Job 9:21, Job 14:16; Exo 20:7; Psa 130:3
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TSK: Job 9:29 - -- Job 9:22, Job 10:7, Job 10:14-17, Job 21:16, Job 21:17, Job 21:27, 22:5-30; Psa 73:13; Jer 2:35
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TSK: Job 9:31 - -- shalt : Job 9:20, Job 15:6
mine : Isa 59:6, Isa 64:6; Phi 3:8, Phi 3:9
abhor me : or, make me to be abhorred
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TSK: Job 9:32 - -- not a man : Job 33:12, Job 35:5-7; Num 23:19; 1Sa 16:7; Ecc 6:10; Isa 45:9; Jer 49:19; Rom 9:20; 1Jo 3:20
we should : Job 13:18-23, Job 23:3-7; Psa 14...
not a man : Job 33:12, Job 35:5-7; Num 23:19; 1Sa 16:7; Ecc 6:10; Isa 45:9; Jer 49:19; Rom 9:20; 1Jo 3:20
we should : Job 13:18-23, Job 23:3-7; Psa 143:2
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TSK: Job 9:33 - -- is there : Job 9:19; 1Sa 2:25; Psa 106:23; 1Jo 2:1, 1Jo 2:2
daysman : Heb. one that should argue, or, umpire
that might : 1Ki 3:16-28
is there : Job 9:19; 1Sa 2:25; Psa 106:23; 1Jo 2:1, 1Jo 2:2
daysman : Heb. one that should argue, or, umpire
that might : 1Ki 3:16-28
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TSK: Job 9:34 - -- let not : Job 13:11, Job 13:20-22, Job 23:15, Job 31:23, Job 33:7, Job 37:1; Psa 39:10, Psa 90:11, but it is not so with me, Heb. but I am not so with...
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Barnes: Job 9:21 - -- Though I were perfect - The same mode of expression occurs here again. "I perfect! I would not know it, or recognize it. If this were my view, ...
Though I were perfect - The same mode of expression occurs here again. "I perfect! I would not know it, or recognize it. If this were my view, and God judged otherwise, I would seem to be ignorant of it. I would not mention it."
Yet would I not know my soul - Or, "I could not know my soul. If I should advance such a claim, it must be from my ignorance of myself."Is not this true of all the claims to perfection which have ever been set up by man? Do they not demonstrate that he is ignorant of his own nature and character? So clear does this seem to me, that I have no doubt that Job expressed more than three thousand years ago what will be found true to the end of time - that if a man advances the claim to absolute perfection, it is conclusive proof that he does not know his own heart. A superficial view of ourselves, mingled with pride and vanity, may lead us to think that we are wholly free from sin. But who can tell what he would be if placed in other circumstances? Who knows what latent depravity would be developed if he were thrown into temptations?
I would despise my life - Dr. Good, I think, has well expressed the sense of this. According to his interpretation, it means that the claim of perfection would be in fact disowning all the consciousness which he had of sinfulness; all the arguments and convictions pressed on him by his reason and conscience, that he was a guilty man. Schultens, however, has given an interpretation which slightly differs from this, and one which Rosenmuller prefers. "Although I should be wholly conscious of innocence, yet that clear consciousness could not sustain me against the infinite splendor of the divine glory and majesty; but I should be compelled to appear ignorant of my own soul, and to reprobate, condemn, and despise my life passed with integrity and virtue."This interpretation is in accordance with the connection, and may be sustained by the Hebrew.
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Barnes: Job 9:22 - -- This is one thing, therefore I said it - This may mean, "it is all the same thing. It makes no difference whether a man be righteous or wicked....
This is one thing, therefore I said it - This may mean, "it is all the same thing. It makes no difference whether a man be righteous or wicked. God treats them substantially alike; he has one and the same rule on the subject. Nothing can be argued certainly about the character of a man from the divine dealings with him here."This was the point in dispute, this the position that Job maintained - that God did not deal with people here in strict accordance with their character, but that the righteous and the wicked in this world were afflicted alike.
He destroyeth the perfect and the wicked - He makes no distinction among them. That Job was right in this his main position there can be no doubt; and the wonder is, that his friends did not all see it. But it required a long time in the course of events, and much observation and discussion, before this important point was made clear. With our full views of the state of retribution in the future world, we can have no doubt on the subject. Heavy and sudden judgments do not necessarily prove that they who are cut off are especially guilty, and long prosperity is no evidence that a man is holy. Calamity, by fire and flood, on a steamboat, or in the pestilence, does not demonstrate the unusual and eminent wickedness of those who suffer (compare Luk 13:1-5), nor should those who escape from such calamities infer that of necessity they are the objects of the divine favor.
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Barnes: Job 9:23 - -- If the scourge slay suddenly - If calamity comes in a sudden and unexpected manner. Dr. Good, following Reiske, translates this,"if he suddenly...
If the scourge slay suddenly - If calamity comes in a sudden and unexpected manner. Dr. Good, following Reiske, translates this,"if he suddenly slay the oppressor,"understanding the word scourge
He will laugh at the trial of the innocent - That is, he seems to disregard or to be pleased with their trials. He does not interpose to rescue them. He seems to look calmly on, and suffers them to be overwhelmed with others. This is a poetic expression, and cannot mean that God derides the trials of the innocent, or mocks their sufferings. It means that he seems to be inattentive to them; he suffers the righteous and the wicked to be swept away together as if he were regardless of character.
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Barnes: Job 9:24 - -- The earth is given into the hand of the wicked - This is evidently designed as an illustration of the sentiment that Job was maintaining - that...
The earth is given into the hand of the wicked - This is evidently designed as an illustration of the sentiment that Job was maintaining - that there was not a distribution of rewards and punishments in this life according to character. In illustration of this, he says that the wicked are raised to places of trust and power. They exercise a wide dominion over the earth, and the world is under their control. Of the truth of this there can be no doubt. Rulers have been, in general, eminent for wickedness, and the affairs of nations have thus far been almost always under the control of those who are strangers to God. At the present time there is scarcely a pious man on any throne in the world, and the rulers of even Christian nations are in general eminent for anything rather than for personal religion.
He covereth the faces of the judges thereof - There has been considerable variety in the exposition of this expression. Some suppose that it refers to the wicked, meaning that they cover the faces of the judges under them so that they connive at and tolerate crime. Others, that it means that God blinds the eyes of wicked rulers, so that they connive at crime, and are partial and unjust in their decisions. Others, that it means that God covers the faces of the judges of the earth with shame and confusion, that though he admits them to prosperity and honor for a time, yet that he overwhelms them at length with calamities and sorrows. Dr. Good supposes it to mean that the earth is given over into the hands of injustice, and that this hoodwinks the faces of the judges. The phrase properly means, to hoodwink, to blind, to conceal the face. It seems to me that the true sense is not expressed by either of the views above. The parallelism requires us to understand it as meaning that while the wicked had dominion over the earth, the righteous were in obscurity, or were not advanced to honor and power. The word "judges,"therefore, I think, is to be understood of the righteous judges, of those who are qualified to administer justice. Their face is covered. They are kept in concealment. The wicked have the sway, and they are doomed to shame, obscurity, and dishonor. This interpretation accords with the tenor of the argument, and may be sustained by the Hebrew, though I have not found it in any of the commentaries which I have consulted.
If not, where, and who is he - If this is not a just view, who is God? What are his dealings? Where is he to be seen, and how is he to be known? Or, it may mean, "if it is not God who does these strange things, who is it that does them?"Rosenmuller. But I prefer the former interpretation. "Tell me who and what God is, if this is not a fair and just account of him. These things in fact are done, and if the agency of God is not employed in them, who is God? And where is his agency seen?
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Barnes: Job 9:25 - -- Now my days are swifter than a post - Than a courier, runner, or racer, רוּץ rûts . Vulgate, cursore ; Septuagint, δρομέω...
Now my days are swifter than a post - Than a courier, runner, or racer,
They see no good - I am not permitted to enjoy happiness. My life is a life of misery.
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Barnes: Job 9:26 - -- They are passed away as the swift ships - Margin, Ships of desire; or ships of Ebeh. Hebrew אבה אניה 'onı̂yâh 'êbeh . ...
They are passed away as the swift ships - Margin, Ships of desire; or ships of Ebeh. Hebrew
As the eagle that hasteth to the prey - A striking emblem of rapidity. Few things can be more rapid than the motion of the eagle, as he darts upon his victim.
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Barnes: Job 9:27 - -- If I say, I will forget my complaint - If I resolve that I will leave off complaining, and will be more cheerful, I find it all in vain. My fea...
If I say, I will forget my complaint - If I resolve that I will leave off complaining, and will be more cheerful, I find it all in vain. My fears and sorrows return, and all my efforts to be cheerful are ineffectual
I will leave off my heaviness - The word rendered "my heaviness"here (
And comfort myself - The word rendered comfort here (
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Barnes: Job 9:28 - -- I am afraid of all my sorrows - My fears return. I dread the continuance of my griefs, and cannot close my eye to them. Thou wilt not hold...
I am afraid of all my sorrows - My fears return. I dread the continuance of my griefs, and cannot close my eye to them.
Thou wilt not hold me innocent - God will not remove my sorrows so as to furnish the evidence that I am innocent. My sufferings continue, and with them continue all the evidence on which my friends rely that I am a guilty man. In such a state of things, how can I be otherwise than sad? He was held to be guilty; he was suffering in such a way as to afford them the proof that he was so, and how could he be cheerful?
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Barnes: Job 9:29 - -- If I be wicked, why then labour I in vain? - The word "if,"here introduced by our translators, greatly obscures the sense. The meaning evidentl...
If I be wicked, why then labour I in vain? - The word "if,"here introduced by our translators, greatly obscures the sense. The meaning evidently is, "I am held to be guilty, and cannot answer to that charge. God regards me as such, and if I should attempt to meet him on the charge, it would be a vain attempt; and I must admit its truth. It would be labor in vain to deny it against one so mighty as he is."This interpretation accords with the argument in the whole chapter. Job maintains that it would be in vain to contend with God, and he gives up the argument in despair. It is quite evident, however, that he does not do it so much because he is convinced himself, as because he knows that God is great, and that it would be useless to contend with him. There is evidently implied all along the feeling that if he was able to cope with God in the argument, the result would be different. As it is, he submits - not because he is convinced, but because he is weak; not because he sees that God is right, but because he sees that he is powerful. How much submission of this kind is there in the world - submision, not to right, but to power; submission to God, not because he is seen to be wise and good, but because he is seen to be almighty, and it is vain to attempt to oppose him! It is needless to say that such feelings evince no true submission.
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Barnes: Job 9:30 - -- If I wash myself with snow water - If I should make myself as pure as possible, and should become, in my view, perfectly holy. Snow water, it s...
If I wash myself with snow water - If I should make myself as pure as possible, and should become, in my view, perfectly holy. Snow water, it seems, was regarded as especially pure. The whiteness of snow itself perhaps suggested the idea that the water of melted snow was better than other for purification. Washing the hands formerly was an emblem of cleansing from guilt. Hence Pilate, when he gave up the Savior to death, took water and washed his hands before the multitude, and said that he was innocent of his blood; Mat 27:24. The expression used here by Job, also is imitated by the Psalmist, to denote his innocence:
I will wash mine hands in innocency:
So will I compass thine altar, O Lord. Psa 26:6.
Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain,
And washed my hands in innocency.
So in Shakespeare, Richard III:
How fain, like Pilate, would I wash my hands
Of this most grievous, guilty murder done!
And make my hands never so clean - Or, rather, should I cleanse my hands with lye, or alkali. The word
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Barnes: Job 9:31 - -- Yet shalt thou plunge me in the ditch - God would treat me as if he should throw me into the gutter, and as if I were wholly defiled and pollut...
Yet shalt thou plunge me in the ditch - God would treat me as if he should throw me into the gutter, and as if I were wholly defiled and polluted. The meaning is, God would not admit the proofs which I should adduce of my innocence, but would overwhelm me with the demonstrations of my guilt. I doubt not that Job urged this with some degree of impatience, and with some improper feelings. He felt, evidently, that God was so great and powerful, that it was vain to contend with him. But it is true in a higher and more important sense than he seems to have understood it. After all the efforts which we can make to justify, vindicate, or purify ourselves, it is in the power of God to overwhelm us with the consciousness of guilt. He has access to the heart. He can show us our past sins. He can recall what we have forgotten, and overwhelm us with the remembrance of our deep depravity. It is in vain, therefore, for any man to attempt to justify himself before God. After the most labored argument to prove his own innocence, after all the confidence which he can repose in his own morality and his own righteousness, still God can with infinite ease overwhelm him with the consciousness of guilt. How many people that were once relying on their own morality for their salvation, have been bowed down with a consciousness of guilt in a revival of religion! How many who halve been trusting to their own righteousness have been overwhelmed with deep and awful conviction, when they have been brought to lie on a bed of death! Let no man, therefore, rely on his own righteousness, when God accuses him with being a sinner. Let no one trust to his own morality for salvation - for soon it will all be seen to be insufficient, and the soul must appear covered over with the consciousness of guilt at the awful bar of God.
And mine own clothes shall abhor me - Margin, Make me to be abhorred. That is, they shall be filthy and offensive - like one who has been rolled in the mire. God has power to make me seem defiled and loathsome, notwithstanding all my efforts to cleanse myself.
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Barnes: Job 9:32 - -- For he is not a man as I am - He is infinitely superior to me in majesty and power. The idea is, that the contest would be unequal, and that he...
For he is not a man as I am - He is infinitely superior to me in majesty and power. The idea is, that the contest would be unequal, and that he might as well surrender without bringing the matter to an issue. It is evident that the disposition of Job to yield, was rather because he saw that God was superior in power than because he saw that he was right, and that he felt that if he had ability to manage the cause as well as God could, the matter would not be so much against him as it was then. That there was no little impropriety of feeling in this, no one can doubt; but have we never had feelings like this when we have been afflicted? Have we never submitted to God because we felt that he was Almighty, and that it was vain to contend with him, rather than because he was seen to be right? True submission is always accompanied with the belief that God is RIGHT - whether we can see him to be right or not.
And we should come together in judgment - For trial, to have the case adjudicated. That is, that we should meet face to face, and have the cause tried before a superior judge. Noyes.
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Barnes: Job 9:33 - -- Neither is there any daysman - Margin, One that should argue, or, umpire. The word daysman in English means ""an umpire or arbiter, a mediator....
Neither is there any daysman - Margin, One that should argue, or, umpire. The word daysman in English means ""an umpire or arbiter, a mediator."Webster. Why such a man is called a daysman I do not know. The Hebrew word rendered "daysman"
The word as used by Job does not mean mediator, but arbiter, umpire, or judge; one before whom the cause might be tried, who could lay the hand of restraint on either party. who could confine the pleadings within proper bounds, who could preserve the parties within the limits of order and propriety, and who had power to determine the question at issue. Job complains that there could be no such tribunal. He feels that God was so great that the cause could be referred to no other, and that he had no prospect of success in the unequal contest. It does not appear, therefore, that he desired a mediator, in the sense in which we understand that word - one who shall come between us and God, and manage our cause before him, and be our advocate at his bar. He rather says that there was no one above God, or no umpire uninterested in the controversy, before whom the cause could be argued, and who would be competent to decide the matter in issue between him and his Maker. He had no hope, therefore, in a cause where one of the parties was to be the judge, and where that party was omnipotent; and he must give up the cause in despair.
It is not with strict propriety that this language is ever applied to the Lord Jesus, the great Mediator between God and man. He is not an umpire to settle a dispute, in the sense in which Job understood it; he is not an arbiter, to whom the cause in dispute between man and his Maker is to be referred; he is not a judge to listen to the arguments of the respective parties, and to decide the controversy. He is a mediator between us and God, to make it proper or possible that God should be reconciled to the guilty, and to propose to man the terms of reconciliation; to plead our cause before God, and to communicate to us the favors which he proposes to bestow on man.
That might lay his hand upon us both - It is not improbable that this may refer to some ancient ceremony in courts where, for some cause, the umpire or arbiter laid his hand on both the parties. Or, it may mean merely that the umpire had the power of control over both the parties; that it was his office to restrain them within proper limits, to check any improper expressions, and to see that the argument was fairly conducted on both sides. The meaning of the whole here is, that if there were such an umpire, Job would be willing to argue the cause. As it was, it was a hopeless thing, and he could do nothing more than to be silent. That there was irreverence in this language must be admitted; but it is language taken from courts of law, and the substance of it is, that Job could not hope to maintain his cause before one so great and powerful as God.
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Barnes: Job 9:34 - -- Let him take his rod away from me - Let him suspend my sufferings, and let us come together on equal terms. His terror now is upon me, and I ca...
Let him take his rod away from me - Let him suspend my sufferings, and let us come together on equal terms. His terror now is upon me, and I can do nothing. I am oppressed, and broken down, and crushed under his hand, and I could not hope to maintain my cause with any degree of success. If my sufferings were lightened, and I could approach the question with the rigor of health and the power of reasoning unweakened by calamity, I could then do justice to the views which I entertain. Now there would be obvious disparity, while one of the parties has crushed and enervated the other by the mere exercise of power.
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Barnes: Job 9:35 - -- Then would I speak, and not fear him - I should then be able to maintain my cause on equal terms, and with equal advantages. But it is not...
Then would I speak, and not fear him - I should then be able to maintain my cause on equal terms, and with equal advantages.
But it is not so with me - Margin, I am not so with myself. Noyes, "I am not so at heart."Good, "but not thus could I in my present state."Literally, "for not thus I with myself."The Syriac renders it, "for neither am I his adversary."Very various interpretations have been given of this phrase. The Jews, with Aben Ezra, suppose it means, "for I am not such as you suppose me to be. You take me to be a guilty man; but I am innocent, and if I had a fair opportunity for trial, I could show that I am."Others suppose it to mean, "I am held to be guilty by the Most High, and am treated accordingly. But I am not so. I am conscious to myself that I am innocent."It seems to me that Dr. Good has come nearer the true sense than any other interpreter, and certainly his exposition accords with the connection. According to this the meaning is, "I am not able thus to vindicate myself in my present circumstances. I am oppressed and crushed beneath a lead of calamities. But if these were removed, and if I had a fair opportunity of trial, then I could so state my cause as to make it appear to be just."
In this whole chapter, there is evidently much insubmission and improper feeling. Job submits to power, not to truth and right. He sees and admits that God is able to overwhelm him, but he does not seem disposed to admit that he is right in doing it. He supposes that if he had a fair and full opportunity of trial, he could make his cause good, and that it would be seen that he did not deserve his heavy calamities. There is much of this kind of submission to God even among good people. It is submission because they cannot help it, not because they see the divine dealings to be right. There is nothing cheerful or confiding about it. There is often a secret feeling in the heart that the sufferings are beyond the deserts, and that if the case could be fairly tried, the dealings of God would be found to be harsh and severe. Let us not blame Job for his impatience and irreverent language, until we have carefully examined our own hearts in the times of trial like those which he endured. Let us not infer that he was worse than other men, until we are placed in similar circumstances, and are able to manifest better feelings than he did.
Poole: Job 9:21 - -- i.e. Though God should acquit me in judgment, and pronounce me perfect or righteous,
yet would I not know i.e. regard or value, (as that word is o...
i.e. Though God should acquit me in judgment, and pronounce me perfect or righteous,
yet would I not know i.e. regard or value, (as that word is oft used,) my soul , i.e. my life; as the soul frequently signifies, as Gen 19:17 Job 2:6 Joh 10:15,17 ; and as it is explained in the following branch, where life is put for soul, and despising for not knowing: and so the same thing is repeated in differing words, and the latter clause explains the former, which was more dark and doubtful, according to the usage of sacred Scripture. So the sense is, Though God should give sentence for me, yet I should be so overwhelmed with the dread and terror of the Divine Majesty, that I should be weary of my life. And therefore I abhor the thoughts of contending with my Maker, whereof you accuse me; and yet I have reason to be weary of my life, and to desire death. Or thus, If I say, I am perfect , as the very same Hebrew words are rendered, Job 9:20 , i.e. if I should think myself perfect,
yet I would not know i.e. not acknowledge,
my soul I could not own nor plead before God the perfection and integrity of my soul, but would only make supplication to my Judge, as he said, Job 9:15 , and flee to his grace and mercy; I would abhor , or reject , or condemn my life , i.e. my conversation. So the sense is, I would not insist upon nor trust to the integrity, either of my soul and heart, or of my life, so as to justify myself before the pure and piercing eyes of the all-seeing God.
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Poole: Job 9:22 - -- In the other things which you have spoken of God’ s greatness, justice, &c., I do not contend with you, but this one thing I do and must affirm...
In the other things which you have spoken of God’ s greatness, justice, &c., I do not contend with you, but this one thing I do and must affirm against you.
Therefore I said it I did not utter it rashly, but upon deep consideration. God sends afflictions promiscuously upon good and bad men. Compare Psa 73:2 Ecc 9:2 Jer 12:1 , &c.
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Poole: Job 9:23 - -- If the scourge slay suddenly either,
1. If some common and deadly judgment come upon a people, which destroys both good and bad. Or,
2. If God infl...
If the scourge slay suddenly either,
1. If some common and deadly judgment come upon a people, which destroys both good and bad. Or,
2. If God inflicts some grievous and unexpected stroke upon an innocent person, as it follows. He will laugh at the trial of the innocent ; as he doth at the destruction of the wicked, Psa 2:4 . His outward carriage is the same to both; he neglects the innocent, and seems not to answer their prayers, and suffers them to perish with others, as if be took pleasure in their ruin also. But withal, he intimates the matter and cause of his laughter or complacency which God takes in their afflictions, because to them they are but trials of their faith, and patience, and perseverance, which tends to God’ s honour, and their own eternal advantage.
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Poole: Job 9:24 - -- The earth i.e. the possession and dominion of men and things on earth.
Is given to wit, by God, the great Lord and Disposer of it, by his providenc...
The earth i.e. the possession and dominion of men and things on earth.
Is given to wit, by God, the great Lord and Disposer of it, by his providence.
Into the hand of the wicked into their power. As good men are scourged, Job 9:23 , so the wicked are advanced and prospered, in this world.
He covereth the faces of the judges thereof i.e. he blinds their eyes, that they cannot discern between truth and falsehood, justice and unrighteousness. He. Who? Either,
1. The wicked last mentioned, who either by power or by gifts corrupts the officers of justice. Or rather,
2. God, whom the pronoun he designed all along this chapter; who is oft said to blind the minds of men, which he doth not positively, by making them blind, but privatively, by withdrawing his own light, and leaving them to their own mistakes and lusts. Or by judges he may hear mean those who are worthy of that name, and duly administer that office; whose faces God may be said to cover, because he removeth them from their high places into obscurity, and covers them with contempt, and in a manner passeth a sentence of condemnation and destruction upon them; covering of the face being the usual posture of condemned persons, and of men in great misery; of which see Est 7:8 Psa 44:15 Isa 22:17 Jer 14:4 . So the sense of this verse is, God commonly advanceth wicked men into power and honour, and casteth down men of true worth and virtue from their seats. If not ; if it be not as I say, if God do not these things. Where, and who is he ? either,
1. Who will confute me by solid arguments? Or,
2. Who doth these things? Who but God doth dispose of the world in this manner?
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Poole: Job 9:25 - -- What he had said of the calamities which God usually inflicted upon good men, he now exemplifieth in himself.
My days the days, either of my prosp...
What he had said of the calamities which God usually inflicted upon good men, he now exemplifieth in himself.
My days the days, either of my prosperity; for the time of affliction is commonly described by the night ; or rather, of my life, as the last clause showeth; for it were an absurd and contradictious speech to say that his prosperous days saw no good.
A post who runs or rides upon swift horses.
They see no good I enjoy no good in them. Seeing is oft put for experiencing either good or evil, Job 7:7 Psa 34:12 Joh 3:36 Joh 8:51 .
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Poole: Job 9:26 - -- Swift ships Heb. ships of desire ; which make great haste, as if they longed for their desired haven, as it is called, Psa 107:30 . Or, ships of ple...
Swift ships Heb. ships of desire ; which make great haste, as if they longed for their desired haven, as it is called, Psa 107:30 . Or, ships of pleasure; which sail more swiftly than ships of great burden.
As the eagle which generally flies most swiftly, Deu 28:49 Jer 4:13 Lam 4:19 , especially when its own hunger and the sight of its prey quickens its motion.
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Poole: Job 9:27 - -- If I say if I resolve within myself.
I will forget my complaints I will cease complaining.
My heaviness Heb. mine anger ; wherewith Job was char...
If I say if I resolve within myself.
I will forget my complaints I will cease complaining.
My heaviness Heb. mine anger ; wherewith Job was charged by his friends, Job 18:4 ; my angry expressions. And comfort myself; I will endeavour to take comfort.
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Poole: Job 9:28 - -- My sorrows or, my pains and griefs. I find all such endeavours vain; for if my griefs be suspended for a little time, yet my fears continue.
I know ...
My sorrows or, my pains and griefs. I find all such endeavours vain; for if my griefs be suspended for a little time, yet my fears continue.
I know that thou wilt not hold me innocent I plainly perceive that my changing my note is to no purpose; for thou, O God, (to whom he makes a sudden apostrophe, as he doth also Job 9:31 ) wilt not clear my innocency, by removing those afflictions which make them judge me guilty of some peat crime. Words proceeding from great impatience and despair of relief.
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Poole: Job 9:29 - -- Heb. I shall be wicked , or guilty , to wit, before thee. Whether I be holy or wicked, if I dispute with thee, I shall be found guilty. Or thus, ...
Heb. I shall be wicked , or guilty , to wit, before thee. Whether I be holy or wicked, if I dispute with thee, I shall be found guilty. Or thus, I shall be used like a wicked man , and punished as such. So this is opposed to his not being held innocent , Job 9:28 , i.e. not being acquitted or exempt from punishment. Why then should I not indulge my griefs, but restrain them? Why should I comfort myself with vain hopes of deliverance, as thou advisest me, Job 8:6 ; or seek to God, as I was directed, Job 5:8 , for that ease which I see he is resolved not to give me? Why should I trouble myself with clearing mine innocency, seeing God will still hold me guilty?
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Poole: Job 9:30 - -- If I wash myself either,
1. Really, by sanctification, cleansing my heart and life from all filthiness; or rather,
2. Declaratively or judicially, ...
If I wash myself either,
1. Really, by sanctification, cleansing my heart and life from all filthiness; or rather,
2. Declaratively or judicially, i.e. if I clear myself from all imputations, and fully prove my innocency before men.
With snow water i.e. as men cleanse their bodies, and as under the law they purified themselves, with water, which he here calls water of snow , either because by its purity and brightness it resembled snow; or because in those dry countries, where fresh and pure water was scarce, snow water was much in use; or because that water might be much used among them in some of their ritual purifications, as coming down from heaven.
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Poole: Job 9:31 - -- In the ditch i.e. in miry and puddle water, whereby I shall become most filthy. But as Job’ s washing, so God’ s plunging him, &c., is not ...
In the ditch i.e. in miry and puddle water, whereby I shall become most filthy. But as Job’ s washing, so God’ s plunging him, &c., is not understood really, as if God would make him filthy; but only judicially, that God would prove him to be a most guilty and filthy creature, notwithstanding all the professions and evidences of his purity before men.
Mine own clothes shall abhor me i.e. I shall be so altogether filthy, that my own clothes, if they had any sense in them, would abhor to touch me: a figure called prosopopaeia .
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Poole: Job 9:32 - -- He is not a man as I am; but one infinitely superior to me in majesty, and power, and wisdom, and justice.
That I should answer him that I should p...
He is not a man as I am; but one infinitely superior to me in majesty, and power, and wisdom, and justice.
That I should answer him that I should presume to debate my cause with him, or answer his allegations against me.
That we should come together face to face, to plead upon equal terms before a superior and indifferent judge.
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Poole: Job 9:33 - -- Daysman or, a reprover ; or, a judge or umpire , whose office was to reprove the guilty person. That might lay his hand upon us both , i.e. use ...
Daysman or, a reprover ; or, a judge or umpire , whose office was to reprove the guilty person. That might lay his hand upon us both , i.e. use his power and authority to appoint the time and place of our meeting, to order and govern us in pleading, and to oblige us to stand to his decision. The
hand is oft put for power, and laying on the hand upon another was ofttimes an act and sign of superiority and dominion.
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Poole: Job 9:34 - -- His fear objectively so called, i.e. the fear and dread of him, of his majesty and justice. Let him not deal with me rigorously, according to his sov...
His fear objectively so called, i.e. the fear and dread of him, of his majesty and justice. Let him not deal with me rigorously, according to his sovereign dominion and perfect justice, but according to his wonted grace and clemency.
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Poole: Job 9:35 - -- i.e. I would speak freely for myself, being freed from the dread of his majesty, which takes away my spirit and courage, and stoppeth my mouth.
But...
i.e. I would speak freely for myself, being freed from the dread of his majesty, which takes away my spirit and courage, and stoppeth my mouth.
But it is not so with me i.e. I am not free from his terror, and therefore cannot and dare not plead my cause boldly with him; and so have no thing else to do but to case myself by renewing my complaints; as he doth in the next words. Others thus, but I am not so with myself , i.e. I am in a manner beside myself, distracted with the terrors of God upon me. Or rather thus, for I am not so with myself , or in my own conscience, as I perceive I am in your eyes, to wit, a hypocrite and ungodly man. So this is a reason why he could speak to God without slavish fear, because he was conscious to himself of his own integrity: I have a good conscience within myself, and therefore could use boldness in speaking to God, provided he would not deal with me in strict justice, but upon the terms of grace and mercy which he hath proposed to sinners, and with allowance to human infirmities.
Haydock: Job 9:22 - -- Consumeth. Ecclesiastes ix. 2. (Haydock) ---
This principle is incontrovertible. (Worthington) ---
I do not retract it. (Menochius) ---
The mi...
Consumeth. Ecclesiastes ix. 2. (Haydock) ---
This principle is incontrovertible. (Worthington) ---
I do not retract it. (Menochius) ---
The misery inflicted on the just, is not contrary to the goodness of the Almighty. Job perfectly discovered this truth, which puzzled his enlightened friends, and most of those who lived before Christ; (Psalm lxxii. 2., and Jeremias xii. 1.; Calmet) and even Job himself was not fully convinced of the motives of the Providence, till God had explained them. (Houbigant) (Chap. xlii.)
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Haydock: Job 9:23 - -- Innocent. Having expressed his sentiments clearly, now he mentions what he could desire under the pressure of misery. (Menochius) ---
Seeing the d...
Innocent. Having expressed his sentiments clearly, now he mentions what he could desire under the pressure of misery. (Menochius) ---
Seeing the danger of falling, to which he was exposed, he begged to be delivered by death. We are taught by our Saviour to pray, Lead us not into temptation, Matthew vi. 13. God does not laugh at our sufferings, but he acts like a surgeon, and cuts without minding our complaints. Ridere Dei est humanæ nolle afflictioni misereri. (St. Gregory) (Calmet) ---
Hebrew, "If the scourge slay suddenly, he will laugh at the trial of the innocent." (Protestants) (Haydock)
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Haydock: Job 9:24 - -- Wicked one, (Haydock) the devil, (Menochius) or any impious person who enjoys prosperity. He, (Calmet) or even God permissively, covered the face, ...
Wicked one, (Haydock) the devil, (Menochius) or any impious person who enjoys prosperity. He, (Calmet) or even God permissively, covered the face, (Haydock) by bribes; so that judges pass sentence unjustly. ---
Then. If it be not the devil, (Menochius) or God. (Calmet)
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Good, of late. Hebrew, "they see no good."
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Haydock: Job 9:26 - -- Carrying. Hebrew literally, "of desire," belonging to one person, or full of goods, which he desires to carry quickly to market. (Menochius) ---
C...
Carrying. Hebrew literally, "of desire," belonging to one person, or full of goods, which he desires to carry quickly to market. (Menochius) ---
Chaldean agrees with us. But most interpreters var. Pagnin retains the original, ebe; (Haydock) supposing the rive Abeh, or Avah, is meant. It certainly implies expedition; "they have hastened like (Calmet) the eagle to its prey." Septuagint, "Is there any trace of ships, or of an eagle flying in quest of food?" (Haydock)
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Haydock: Job 9:27 - -- Sorrow. I cannot entirely repress it. (Calmet) ---
The more I strive, (Haydock) the greater is my pain. (Menochius)
Sorrow. I cannot entirely repress it. (Calmet) ---
The more I strive, (Haydock) the greater is my pain. (Menochius)
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Haydock: Job 9:28 - -- Works. Hebrew, "sorrows." I dread their increase, and fear impatience. Even in the midst of prosperity, Job offered sacrifice, lest the sins of hi...
Works. Hebrew, "sorrows." I dread their increase, and fear impatience. Even in the midst of prosperity, Job offered sacrifice, lest the sins of his children should be laid to his charge.
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Haydock: Job 9:29 - -- Vain. Why have I endeavoured to repress my grief in silence? God does not forbid us to complain, but only to murmur. (Calmet) ---
Septuagint, "Si...
Vain. Why have I endeavoured to repress my grief in silence? God does not forbid us to complain, but only to murmur. (Calmet) ---
Septuagint, "Since I am wicked, why did I not die?" (Haydock) ---
Should a wretch be even suffered to live" (St. Chrysostom)
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Haydock: Job 9:30 - -- Snow. Nitre bring off the dirt better. Chaldean, "soap." Hebrew bor, is supposed by many to be the Borith of Jeremias ii. 22. Snow-water was ...
Snow. Nitre bring off the dirt better. Chaldean, "soap." Hebrew bor, is supposed by many to be the Borith of Jeremias ii. 22. Snow-water was also used through delicacy in summer. (Petronius; Sat.)
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Haydock: Job 9:31 - -- Abhor me. This striking expression intimates something extremely filthy. God will make his servants discern many stains, even when they have aimed ...
Abhor me. This striking expression intimates something extremely filthy. God will make his servants discern many stains, even when they have aimed at the greatest purity. (Calmet)
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Haydock: Job 9:33 - -- There. Septuagint, "O that an umpire, ( or mediator) were between us, and one arguing and giving ear in the midst of both!"
There. Septuagint, "O that an umpire, ( or mediator) were between us, and one arguing and giving ear in the midst of both!"
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Haydock: Job 9:35 - -- Fear him. Septuagint, "and I shall not fear, but speak. For I am not conscious to myself of injustice." (Haydock) ---
The dread of incurring God'...
Fear him. Septuagint, "and I shall not fear, but speak. For I am not conscious to myself of injustice." (Haydock) ---
The dread of incurring God's displeasure makes me prefer to be silent; and if I had no other reason, this fear would suffice, as I should not be master of myself under such anxiety and pain. (Calmet) ---
If my sufferings were at an end, I should take courage, and speak in my own defence, (Menochius) in answer to my false friends. (Haydock)
Gill: Job 9:21 - -- Though I were perfect,.... Really and truly so, not conscious of any sin in thought, word, or deed; this is only a case supposed:
yet would I no...
Though I were perfect,.... Really and truly so, not conscious of any sin in thought, word, or deed; this is only a case supposed:
yet would I not know my soul; I would not own myself to be so before God; I would not insist upon such perfection in his presence, as what would justify me before him; since I am sensible the highest perfection of a creature is imperfection when compared with him: or the sense may be, should I say I were "perfect, I should not know my own soul"; I should plainly appear to be ignorant of myself, as all perfectionists are; they do not know their own souls, the plague of their hearts, the evil of their thoughts, the vanity of their minds; they do not take notice of these things, or do not look upon them as sinful; they know not the nature of sin, and the exceeding sinfulness of it:
I would despise my life; even if ever so innocent, perfect, and just; his meaning is, that he would not insist upon the continuance of it on that account; he had no such value for it, such a love of life as to contend with God upon the foot of justice about it; nor did he think it worth asking for, so mean an opinion had he entertained of it, see Job 7:16.
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Gill: Job 9:22 - -- This is one thing,.... Or "one thing there is" x in the world, as Jarchi adds; or "one measure", as the Targum, to good and bad men; one event alik...
This is one thing,.... Or "one thing there is" x in the world, as Jarchi adds; or "one measure", as the Targum, to good and bad men; one event alike to the righteous, and to the wicked, Ecc 9:2; so that, as others render it, "it is all one" y, whether a man righteous and perfect, or whether he is not, he is equally liable to be afflicted and distressed: and "this is one thing, very singular" z, amazing and astonishing, and very unaccountable; but so it is, and which he differed from his three friends about; as to the justice of God, he agreed with them in that; yea, he believed he was righteous in whatever he did, and even in this, which was so strange and surprising, though he could not account for it: and "this is uniform", as Mr. Broughton translates it; either God acts uniformly in what he does, treating all men alike, good and bad men; or Job was uniform in his sentiments, he was all of a piece, steady and constant, retaining the same sense of things, from which he had not departed, nor could he depart:
therefore I said it; with the greatest confidence and assurance, because he believed it, and would say it again, seeing no reason at all to alter his judgment; the thing was quite clear to him, of which he had, at least as he thought, unquestionable evidence; and the thing he has respect to is as follows:
he destroyeth the perfect and the wicked; this is thought by some to be a very bad expression, bordering on blasphemy, and contrary to the nature and perfections of God, and to the methods of his providence, Gen 18:23; and that Job speaks in the person of one destitute of the grace of God: but nothing is more certain than that this was the real sentiment of his mind, his firm belief, nor could he be persuaded to the contrary; indeed it may be understood in a good sense: by a "perfect" man we are to understand a truly good man, one that has received the grace of God in truth, and is perfectly justified and pardoned through the blood and righteousness of Christ; and by a "wicked" man one that is under the influence of his lusts, is abandoned to them, and never easy but while he is serving them, which he is continually doing. Now the destruction of these is not to be interpreted of everlasting destruction; this indeed will be the case of wicked men, but not of perfect and good men: God by his grace has made a difference between them in this world, and so he will in the next; the one will go into everlasting punishment, the other into everlasting life, and will never come together in the same place or state; nor will the perfect man be destroyed at all in such sense; the grace of God within him, and the righteousness of Christ upon him, will eternally secure him from everlasting wrath and ruin: but it is meant of temporal destruction; sometimes indeed a remarkable distinction is made between the one and the other in a time of general calamity, as Noah, a perfect man, was saved, when the world of the ungodly were destroyed by water, Gen 7:23; and Lot, a righteous man, when Sodom and Gomorrah were consumed by fire, Gen 19:29; but frequently they fall together in the same common distress; good and bad men, among the Jews were alike carried captive into Babylon, signified by Jeremiah's good and bad figs, Jer 24:2; of good men, Ezekiel, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshech, and Abednego, are instances; though indeed it is on different accounts, and with different views, that the one and the other are destroyed with a temporal destruction, in their persons, their health, their families, or in their estates; such calamities upon good men are not as punishments for their sins, as on the wicked; but as fatherly chastisements, and for the trial of their graces, for their spiritual and eternal good, and that they might not be condemned with the world. Job's view in saying this is to observe, that a man's state God-ward is not to be judged of by his outward circumstances, whether he is a good man or a bad man, since they may both be in the same afflictions and distress, and which he opposes to the sentiments and sayings of Eliphaz and Bildad, Job 4:7.
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Gill: Job 9:23 - -- If the scourge slay suddenly,.... Not Satan, as Jarchi and Bar Tzemach; but any sore calamity which surrounds a man, lashes, cuts, and distresses him,...
If the scourge slay suddenly,.... Not Satan, as Jarchi and Bar Tzemach; but any sore calamity which surrounds a man, lashes, cuts, and distresses him, as a whip or scourge; such as any of God's sore judgments, the sword, famine, pestilence, or evil beasts, which sometimes come suddenly, unawares, unthought of, and unexpected; and are sometimes only chastisements in love, the scourgings of a father, though generally in wrath and hot displeasure, and are an overflowing scourge, which carry all before them; and therefore some restrain it to wicked men, as the Septuagint version; and some understand it as if they were more mildly and gently dealt with, by being suddenly and at once slain with such a scourge, in their persons, families, and substance, while others have their afflictions protracted, and linger long under them, as in the next clause:
he will laugh at the trial of the innocent; not that are free from sin entirely; for there are none such, no, not newborn infants; though they may be comparatively so, yet they are not in an absolute sense, being conceived in sin and shapen in iniquity: besides, here it means adult persons, good men, that are truly gracious, sincere, upright, harmless in their lives and conversations, whose afflictions are "trials" of their faith and patience, and other graces; and when God is said to "laugh" at them, who seems to be designed here, this must be understood consistent with his pity to his people, his sympathy with them under all their afflictions, he not willingly afflicting or grieving the children of men; nor can it be thought that he has them in derision and contempt, or laughs at their calamities, or in reality, as he does at wicked men; but that he carries it so oftentimes, in the dispensations of his providence, as if he made no difference between them, but mocked at the one as well as the other; seemingly giving no heed to their cries; not hastening to their help and deliverance, but lengthening out their troubles for the trial of their graces; and so indeed is greatly delighted with the exercise of them under them, and with seeing them bear them with so much patience, courage, and greatness of mind and submission to his will. Some interpret this of a wicked man laughing at the calamities of the righteous, as the Ammonites and Edomites rejoiced at the destruction of the Jews; the church's enemy at her fall, and as the Papists will at the witnesses being slain; but the former sense seems best; rather the scourge itself laughs at the trial of the innocent; so Schultens.
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Gill: Job 9:24 - -- The earth is given into the hands of the wicked,.... Either the wicked one, Satan, as Jarchi and Bar Tzemach, who is the god of this world; or some wi...
The earth is given into the hands of the wicked,.... Either the wicked one, Satan, as Jarchi and Bar Tzemach, who is the god of this world; or some wicked tyrant, as Nimrod, or some other known by Job in his time, to whom he may have respect; or wicked men in general, who for the most part have the greatest share of the earth, and earthly things, and of power, dominion, and authority in it; and this they have of God, the powers that be are ordained by him, and therefore to be obeyed; and what any have of the earth, and the fulness of it, they have it from him, whose it is, and who has a right to dispose of it, and therefore being given by him, they have a proper right unto it; but then it is only the things of this world which are given them; they have their portion here, and that is their all; wherefore, as the giving of these is no proof of a man's goodness, so the taking of them away is no evidence of his wickedness; love or hatred are not to be known by these things; this is Job's scope and drift in this and Job 9:23,
he covereth the face of the judges thereof; not Satan, who blinds the minds of such, that they should not understand justice, and do it, as the above Jewish writers interpret it; nor the wicked man that is possessed of riches and wealth, power and authority, who by his substance bribes the judges, and blinds their eyes, or by his power and authority awes them, keeps them from executing true judgment, or discourages persons fit for such an office, and will not advance them, but lets them lie in, and covers them with, obscurity; or such who are honest and faithful, and are not to be bribed and browbeaten, these he either removes from their post, and covers their faces with shame, or takes them away by death, condemns and executes them as malefactors; it being usual in former times, as well as in ours, to cover the faces of such as are executed: but rather this is to be understood of God, who delivers the earth into the hands of the wicked, suffers them to have the rule over it, and permits such things to be done, as already observed; and besides, gives up the judges of the earth to judicial blindness, so that they cannot discern what is right and just, and do it, see Isa 29:10,
if not, where and who is he? if it is not so as I say, where is the man, and who is he, that can disprove me, and make me a liar? as Aben Ezra; let him come forth and appear, and confute me, and teach me otherwise if he can; or name the place of his abode, and say who he is; or if God does not do this, give the earth into the hands of wicked men, and cover the faces of the judges of it, and suffer wicked men to prevail, and the causes of good men to be subverted, the one to flourish, and the other to be crushed; who does do it? where is the man that has done or can do it? certain it is, that it is done; and who but that God that superintends all things, sits in the heavens, and does whatsoever he pleases, can do such things as these? or could they be done without his will and permission? by such mediums Job proves his assertion, that God destroys the perfect and the wicked; and therefore, by the face of things in providence, no judgment is to be had of a man's character, good or bad, and then instances in himself in the following verses.
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Gill: Job 9:25 - -- Now my days are swifter than a post,.... Or "than a runner" a in a race, in order to obtain the prize; or than one that rides post, or runs on foot to...
Now my days are swifter than a post,.... Or "than a runner" a in a race, in order to obtain the prize; or than one that rides post, or runs on foot to carry a message, such as were Cushi and Ahimaaz; and such are generally swift of foot, or ride on swift horses, who are so employed; and yet Job says his days are swifter, or passed away more swiftly thorn such; meaning either his days in general; or rather particularly his prosperous days, as Mr. Broughton interprets it; these no sooner came but they were gone:
they flee away; like a shadow, or a dream, or a tale that is told:
they see no good; or he saw, perceived, or enjoyed no good in them; not but that he did see and enjoy much good, even much temporal good, which is what is intended; but this was no sooner had than it was taken away, that it was as if it had never been; the evil days of trouble and sorrow, in which he had no pleasure, came so quick upon him.
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Gill: Job 9:26 - -- They are passed away as the swift ships,.... Those that are lightest built, and run swiftest. Bar Tzemach thinks such vessels as are rowed with oars a...
They are passed away as the swift ships,.... Those that are lightest built, and run swiftest. Bar Tzemach thinks such vessels as are rowed with oars are meant, which may be called "ships of will or desire" b, as the words may be rendered, because they may be rowed at pleasure, and be carried to any place where and when a man thinks fit; whereas those that are not depend upon the wind, and that must be waited for; or they design such ships that are so swift in their motion, that they arrive to the haven as soon as men can well wish for and desire. Some render it "pirate ships", or "ships of enmity" c; such as are designed for spoil and plunder, and which are light ones, not loaded with goods, and therefore move swiftly: the Targum is,
"ships burdened with precious fruits;''and the Vulgate Latin version is,"ships carrying apples:''now ships loaded with such sort of goods, with perishing commodities, are obliged to make their port as soon as possible. Some leave the word untranslated, and call them "ships of Ebeh" d; which, according to Jarchi, Aben Ezra, and others, is either the name of a place, or of a river in Arabia, which ran with a rapid stream, and in which ships were carried with great celerity. Bolducius relates from a traveller of his acquaintance, who finished his travels in 1584, that he saw such a river about Damascus, not far from the sepulchre of Job; but that must be the river Chrysorrhoas, now called Barrady; but there were two rivers of this name Ebeh; one near Cufa, and another in Wasith, a country of Babylon, as Golius observes e. Others take the word to have the signification of reed or papyrus, which grew on the banks of the Nile, and of which ships were made; see Gill on Isa 18:1; and render the words "ships of reeds" or "of papyrus" f, and which, being light, were very swift:
as the eagle that hasteth to the prey; the eagle is the swiftest of birds, and therefore persons and things exceeding swift are compared unto them, see Hab 1:8; and it flies the most swiftly when being hungry, and in sight of its prey, and is nearest to it, and flaps upon it, which is the thing referred to, and so may be rendered, "that flies upon the prey" g. Job uses these metaphors, which are the most appropriate, to show how fleeting his days of prosperity were, and how soon gone: and a climax may be observed in the words; a runner, though he runs swiftly, a ship moves faster than he, and an eagle, just about to seize its prey, flies swifter than that.
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Gill: Job 9:27 - -- If I say, I will forget my complaint,.... The cause of it, the loss of his children, servants, substance, and health, and endeavour to think no more o...
If I say, I will forget my complaint,.... The cause of it, the loss of his children, servants, substance, and health, and endeavour to think no more of these things, and cease complaining about them, and attempt to bury them in oblivion, and change his note:
I will leave off my heaviness; his melancholy thoughts, words, airs, and looks; or "forsake my face" h, put on another countenance, a more pleasent and cheerful one; the Jewish commentators generally interpret it, "my anger", either at the dispensations of Providence, or at his friends:
and comfort myself; that things were not worse with him than they were; or strengthen i himself, as the word is rendered in Amo 5:9; against his fears, and troubles, and dejection of mind, determining to take heart, and be of good courage, and not sink, and succumb, and faint under his burdens: none but God, Father, Son, and Spirit, can give comfort to distressed ones, whether on temporal or spiritual accounts; but good men may make use of means for comfort, such as hearing the word, reading the Scriptures, prayer, meditation, and conversation with good men.
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Gill: Job 9:28 - -- I am afraid of all my sorrows,.... That they would return upon him, and surround him, and overwhelm him, so that he should not be able to stand up aga...
I am afraid of all my sorrows,.... That they would return upon him, and surround him, and overwhelm him, so that he should not be able to stand up against them, or under them; that they would increase and continue with him, and so he should never be released from them:
I know that thou wilt not hold me innocent: a sudden apostrophe to God as near him; the meaning is not, that he was confident that God would not justify him but condemn him in a spiritual sense; Job did not despair of his everlasting salvation, he knew and believed in his living Redeemer; he knew he should be acquitted and justified by his righteousness, and not be condemned with the world; but he was certain of this, as he thought that God would neither "cleanse" k him, as some render the word, from the worms his flesh was clad with, and from the filthy boils and ulcers he was covered with; nor clear him so as that he should appear to be innocent in the sight and judgment of his friends; but go on to treat him as if he was a guilty person, by continuing his afflictions on him, even unto death; he had no hope of being freed from them, and so of being cleared from the imputation of his friends, who judged of him by his outward circumstances.
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Gill: Job 9:29 - -- If I be wicked, why then labour I in vain? If he was that wicked person, that hypocrite, Bildad and his other friends took him to be, it was in vain ...
If I be wicked, why then labour I in vain? If he was that wicked person, that hypocrite, Bildad and his other friends took him to be, it was in vain for him to make his supplications to God, as they advised him; so Gersom gives the sense of the words; since God hears not sinners, such as live in sin, regard iniquity in their hearts, and practise it in their lives, at least secretly, as it was suggested Job did; if he was such an one, it must be all lost labour to pray to God to show favour to him, and deliver him out of his troubles, since he might reasonably expect he would shut his eyes and stop his ears at such a man, and regard not his cries; seeking to him must be in vain; prayer may be fitly enough expressed by labour, it is a striving and wrestling with God, and especially when it is constant, importunate, and fervent: but rather the sense is, that if he was a wicked man in the account of God, or was dealt with as one; if God would not hold him innocent, as he asserts in the latter part of Job 9:28; then it was a vain thing to labour the point in the vindication of himself; since he could never think of succeeding against God, so wise and powerful, so holy, just, and pure. The word "if" is not in the original text, and may be left out, and the words be rendered, "I am wicked" l; not in any notorious manner, as having lived a scandalous life, or been guilty of some gross enormities, as his friends insinuated, but in common with other men; he was born a sinner, had been a transgressor from the womb, and though he was renewed and sanctified by the spirit of God, yet sin dwelt in him, and through the infirmity of the flesh he was daily sinning in thought, word, or deed; nor did he expect it would be otherwise with him while in this world; yea, it was impossible for him to be without sin, as Bar Tzemach observes to be the sense of the phrase; and therefore if God would not clear him, or hold him innocent, unless he was entirely free from sin, as it was labouring in vain to attain to such perfection, so it must be to no purpose, and is what he chiefly intends, to attempt to vindicate himself before God: or "I shall be wicked", or "ungodly" m; I shall be treated as such not only by his friends, who would reckon him a very wicked man so long as those afflictions continued on him, let him say what he would; but by the Lord himself, who he believed would never release him from them as long as he lived, which in the eye of men would be a tacit condemnation of him; so the Targum,"I shall be condemned,''and therefore it was labour in vain, striving against the stream, to go about to vindicate himself; nor was it possible that he could make himself out so clear and pure and perfect, that such an holy Being as God was could find no fault in him, in whose sight the heavens, and the inhabitants of them, were not clean; this is further evinced in the following words.
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Gill: Job 9:30 - -- If I wash myself with snow water,.... As it came from heaven, or flowed from the mountains covered with snow, as Lebanon, see Jer 18:14; or was kept i...
If I wash myself with snow water,.... As it came from heaven, or flowed from the mountains covered with snow, as Lebanon, see Jer 18:14; or was kept in vessels for such use, as being judged the best for such a purpose; so it was used by the ancients n, as being what whitens the skin, and strengthens the parts by contracting the pores, and hindering perspiration; it signifies, in a figurative sense, that let him take what methods he would to cleanse himself from sin, they were all in vain, his iniquity would be seen, and remain marked before God; and indeed there is nothing that a man can do that will make him pure and clean in the sight of an holy God; this is not to be done by ceremonial ablutions, such as might be in use in Job's time, before the law of Moses was given, and to which he may have some reference; these only sanctified to the purifying of the flesh, or only externally, but could not purify the heart, so as to have no more conscience of sin; nor by moral duties, not by repentance, as Sephorno; a fountain, a flood, an ocean of tears of humiliation and repentance, would not wash away sin; if, instead of ten thousand rivers of oil, so many rivers of brinish tears could be produced, they would be of no avail to cleanse the sinner; nor any works of righteousness done by man, for these themselves need washing in the blood of the Lamb; for nothing short of the blood of Christ, and the grace of God, can do it:
and make my hands never so clean; the hands are what men work with, Ecc 9:10; and so may design good works, which are sometimes called clean hands; see Psa 24:4; compared with Psa 15:1; and may be said to be so when they are done well, from a pare heart, and faith unfeigned, without selfish and sordid views, with a single eye to the glory of God; which is doing them as well, and making the hands as clean, as well can be; yet these are of no avail with respect to justification before God, and acceptance with him, or with regard to salvation, which is all of grace, and not of works, be they what they will; some render the words, "and cleanse my hands with soap" o, which cleanses them best of anything, see Jer 2:22.
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Gill: Job 9:31 - -- Yet shall thou plunge me in the ditch,.... In the filthy ditch of sin, the pit wherein is no water, the horrible pit, the mire and clay, in which all ...
Yet shall thou plunge me in the ditch,.... In the filthy ditch of sin, the pit wherein is no water, the horrible pit, the mire and clay, in which all unregenerate men are, and to which hypocrites return, as the swine to its wallowing in the mire; and in which impurity self-righteous persons are, and are sooner or later made to appear, notwithstanding all their outward righteousness, holiness, purity, and perfection they boast of; and though Job was neither of these, not an unregenerate man, nor an hypocrite, nor a self-righteous person; yet he knew that, in comparison of the perfect purity and holiness of God, he should appear exceedingly impure; and that God would treat him as such, and hold him out to the view of others as the filth of the world, and the offscouring of all things, by continuing his afflictions, from whence it would be concluded that he was the most impure person; and indeed by the ditch may be meant the ditch of afflictions, as Sephorno, either his present ones continued, his filthy ulcers and scabs, with which his body was covered all over, or new afflictions he would bring him into, where he would sink in deep mire, there being no standing, Psa 69:2; some understand this of the grave, the ditch or pit of corruption, into which he should be cast, and there putrefy and rot: but the other senses seem best:
and mine own clothes shall abhor me; not his clothes in a literal sense; either while living, his filthy ulcers being such, that were his clothes sensible of them, they would loathe and abhor to touch him, and cover him; or when dead, his sepulchre garments, his shroud, or winding sheet, would disdain to cover such a filthy body, overspread with worms and dust; or as Vatablus paraphrases it, clothes do not become a dead body; or as Mr. Broughton,"when I go naked to the grave, as though my clothes loathed me:''but the words are rather to be understood figuratively, either of some of his friends that were as near and as close to him as his clothes, or had been, but now were estranged from him, and loathed and abhorred him, see Job 19:13; or better, of his best works of righteousness, which he put on as a robe, Job 29:14; and which are a covering to the saints before men, and are ornamental to them, though not justifying in the sight of God; and indeed in themselves, and compared with the holy law, and holy nature of God, are imperfect and impure; and if God was to enter into judgment with men, they would be so far from justifying them in his sight, or rendering them acceptable to him, that they would cause them to be abhorred by him, as all self-righteousness and self-righteous persons are, see Pro 21:27; yea, even the best works of men are but dung in the judgment of a good man himself, what then must they be in the account of God? Phi 3:8; Job here, and in Job 9:30, has most exalted ideas of the purity, holiness, and majesty of God, so that no creature, nor creature holiness, be they ever so perfect, can stand before him, or be pure in his sight.
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Gill: Job 9:32 - -- For he is not a man, as I am,.... For though the parts and members of an human body are sometimes ascribed to him, yet these are to be understood by...
For he is not a man, as I am,.... For though the parts and members of an human body are sometimes ascribed to him, yet these are to be understood by an anthropopathy, speaking after the manner of men, there being something in him, which in a figurative sense answers to these; otherwise we are not to conceive of any corporeal shape in him, or that there is any likeness to which he is to be compared: he is a spirit infinite, immortal, immense, invisible, pure and holy, just and true, and without iniquity; whereas Job was but a man, a finite, feeble, mortal creature, and a sinful one; and therefore there being such a vast disparity between them, it was in vain to litigate a point with him, to plead his cause before him, or attempt to vindicate his innocence; the potsherds may strive and contend with the potsherds of the earth their equals, but not with God their Creator, who is more than a match for them; he sees impurity where man sees it not, and can bring a charge against him, and support it, where he thought there was none, and therefore it is a vain thing to enter the lists with him:
that I should answer him; not to questions put by him, but in a judicial way to charges and accusations he should exhibit; no man in this sense can answer him, for one of a thousand he may bring, and men are chargeable with; wherefore Job once and again determines he would not pretend to answer him, as he knew he could not, see Job 9:3,
and we should come together in judgment; in any court of judicature, before any judge, to have the cause between us heard, and tried, and determined; for in what court of judicature can he be convened into? or what judge is there above him, before whom he can be summoned? or is capable of judging and determining the cause between us? there is the high court of heaven, where we must all appear, and the judgment seat of Christ, before which we must all stand; and God is the judge of all, to whom we must come, and by whose sentence we must be determined; but there is no court, no judge, no judgment superior to him and his; there is no annulling his sentence, or making an appeal from him to another; there is no coming together at all, and much less "alike" p, as some render it, or upon equal terms; the difference between him and his creatures being so vastly great.
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Gill: Job 9:33 - -- Neither is there any daysman betwixt us,.... Or "one that reproves" q; who upon hearing a cause reproves him that is found guilty, or is blameworthy, ...
Neither is there any daysman betwixt us,.... Or "one that reproves" q; who upon hearing a cause reproves him that is found guilty, or is blameworthy, or has done injury to another; but there is no such person to be found, among angels or men, capable of this, supposing, as if Job should say, I should appear to be the injured person; or there is no "umpire" or "arbitrator" r, to whom the case between us can be referred; for, as Bar Tzemach observes, he that stands in such a character between two parties must be both more wise and more mighty than they; but there is none among all beings wiser and mightier than God:
that might lay his hand upon us both; and restrain them from using any violence to one another, as contending persons are apt to do; and compromise matters, settle and adjust things in difference between them, so as to do justice to both, and make both parties easy, and make peace between them. Herodotus s makes mention of a custom among the Arabians,"when they enter into covenants and agreements with each other, another man stands in the midst of them both, and with a sharp stone cuts the inside of the hands of the covenanters near the larger fingers; and then takes a piece out of each of their garments, and anoints with the blood seven stones that lie between them; and while he is doing this calls upon a deity, and when finished the covenant maker goes with his friends to an host or citizen, if the affair is transacted with a citizen; and the friends reckon it a righteous thing to keep the covenant.''To which, or some such custom, Job may be thought to allude. Now, whereas Christ is the daysman, umpire and mediator between God and men, who has interposed between them, and has undertaken to manage affairs relating to both; in things pertaining to God, the glory of his justice, and the honour of his law, and to made reconciliation for the sins of men, and to make peace for them with God by the blood of his cross; which he has completely done, being every way qualified for it, inasmuch as he partakes of both natures, and is God and man in one person, and so could put his hand on both, and make both one; or bring them who were at variance to an entire agreement with each other, upon such a bottom, as even the strict justice of God cannot object unto. Now, I say, Job must not be understood as if he was ignorant of this, for he had knowledge of Christ as a Redeemer and Saviour, and so as the Mediator and Peacemaker; the Septuagint version renders it as a wish, "O that there was a mediator between us!" and so it may be considered as a prayer for Christ's incarnation, and that he would appear and do the work of a mediator he was appointed to, which Job plainly saw there was great need of; or, as others t, "there is no daysman yet"; there will be one, but as yet he is not come; in due time he will, which Job had faith in and full assurance of: but there is no need of such versions and glosses: Job is here not speaking of the affair of salvation, about which he had no doubt, he knew his state was safe, and he had an interest in the living Redeemer and blessed Mediator; but of the present dispensation of Providence, and of the clearing of that up to the satisfaction of his friends, so that he might appear to be an innocent person; and since God did not think fit to change the scene, there was none to interpose on his behalf, and it was in vain for him to contend with God.
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Gill: Job 9:34 - -- Let him take his rod away from me,.... Not his government over him, of which the rod or sceptre is an ensign, Job did not want to be freed from that; ...
Let him take his rod away from me,.... Not his government over him, of which the rod or sceptre is an ensign, Job did not want to be freed from that; but, his rod of affliction, or stroke, as the Targum, the stroke of his hand, which, though a fatherly chastisement, lay heavy upon him, and depressed his spirits; so that he could not, while it was on him, reason so freely about things as he thought he could if it was removed, and for which he here prays:
and let not his fear terrify me; not the fear of him as a father, which is not terrifying, but the fear of him as a judge; the terror of his majesty, the dread of his wrath and vengeance, the fearful apprehensions he had of him as a God of strict justice; that would by no means clear the guilty, yea, would not hold him innocent, though he was with respect to the charge of his friends; being now without those views of him as a God gracious and merciful; to these words Elihu seeks to have respect, Job 33:6.
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Gill: Job 9:35 - -- Then would I speak, and not fear him,.... With a servile fear, though with reverence and godly fear; meaning either at the throne of grace, having li...
Then would I speak, and not fear him,.... With a servile fear, though with reverence and godly fear; meaning either at the throne of grace, having liberty of access, boldness of spirit, and freedom of speech through Christ the Mediator, and in the view of his blood, righteousness, and sacrifice; for when the rod of his law and the terror of his justice are removed, and his grace and favour in Christ shown, a believer can speak boldly and freely to God, and not be afraid before him: but rather Job's sense is, that were the rod of his anger taken off and the dread of his majesty, which so awed him that he could not tell his case as it was, and use the arguments he might to advantage; he should speak without fear, and so as to defend himself, and make his cause to appear to be just; to this the Lord seems to refer in Job 38:3; being bold and daring expressions, which Job blushed when made sensible of it, Job 42:5,
but it is not so with me; there was no daysman between the Lord and him; the rod was not taken off his back, nor the dread and terror of the Almighty removed from him; and so could not speak in his own defence, as otherwise he might: or it was not so with him as his friends thought of him; he was not the wicked hypocritical man they took him to be, or as the afflictive dispensations of God made him to appear to be, according to their judgment of them: or the words may be rendered, "I am not so with myself" u; that is, he was not conscious to himself that he was such a person they judged him; or such were the troubles and afflictions that were upon him, that he was not himself, he was not "compos mentis", and so not capable on that account, as well as others, of pleading his own cause: or "I am not right in" or "with myself" w; not in his right mind, being distracted with the terrors of God, and the arrows of the Almighty that stuck in him; or he was not righteous in himself; for though he was clear of hypocrisy he was charged with, he did not pretend to be without sin, or to have such a righteousness as would justify him before God; and therefore desires things might be put upon the foot of grace, and not of strict justice.
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NET Notes -> Job 9:21; Job 9:21; Job 9:21; Job 9:22; Job 9:22; Job 9:22; Job 9:23; Job 9:23; Job 9:23; Job 9:23; Job 9:23; Job 9:24; Job 9:24; Job 9:24; Job 9:24; Job 9:24; Job 9:25; Job 9:25; Job 9:26; Job 9:26; Job 9:26; Job 9:26; Job 9:27; Job 9:27; Job 9:27; Job 9:27; Job 9:28; Job 9:28; Job 9:28; Job 9:28; Job 9:29; Job 9:29; Job 9:29; Job 9:29; Job 9:30; Job 9:30; Job 9:31; Job 9:32; Job 9:32; Job 9:32; Job 9:33; Job 9:33; Job 9:33; Job 9:33; Job 9:33; Job 9:34; Job 9:34; Job 9:34; Job 9:34; Job 9:35; Job 9:35
NET Notes: Job 9:21 Job believes he is blameless and not deserving of all this suffering; he will hold fast to that claim, even if the future is uncertain, especially if ...
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NET Notes: Job 9:22 The relationships of these clauses is in some question. Some think that the poet has inverted the first two, and so they should read, “That is w...
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NET Notes: Job 9:24 This seems to be a broken-off sentence (anacoluthon), and so is rather striking. The scribes transposed the words אֵפוֹ&...
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NET Notes: Job 9:25 Job returns to the thought of the brevity of his life (7:6). But now the figure is the swift runner instead of the weaver’s shuttle.
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NET Notes: Job 9:27 In the Hiphil of בָּלַג (balag) corresponds to Arabic balija which means “to shine” and “to be m...
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NET Notes: Job 9:28 A. B. Davidson (Job, 73) appropriately notes that Job’s afflictions were the proof of his guilt in the estimation of God. If God held him innoce...
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NET Notes: Job 9:29 Here הֶבֶל (hevel, “breath, vapor, vanity”) is used as an adverb (adverbial accusative).
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NET Notes: Job 9:30 The word בֹּר (bor, “lye, potash”) does not refer to purity (Syriac, KJV, ASV), but refers to the ingredient used ...
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NET Notes: Job 9:31 The pointing in the MT gives the meaning “pit” or “ditch.” A number of expositors change the pointing to שֻׁ...
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NET Notes: Job 9:32 The sense of the verb “come” with “together in judgment” means “to confront one another in court.” See Ps 143:2.
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NET Notes: Job 9:33 The idiom of “lay his hand on the two of us” may come from a custom of a judge putting his hands on the two in order to show that he is ta...
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NET Notes: Job 9:34 “His terror” is metonymical; it refers to the awesome majesty of God that overwhelms Job and causes him to be afraid.
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NET Notes: Job 9:35 The last half of the verse is rather cryptic: “but not so I with me.” NIV renders it “but as it now stands with me, I cannot.”...
Geneva Bible: Job 9:22 This [is] one [thing], therefore I said [it], He destroyeth the ( p ) perfect and the wicked.
( p ) If God punishes according to his justice, he will...
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Geneva Bible: Job 9:23 If the scourge ( q ) slay suddenly, he will ( r ) laugh at the trial of the innocent.
( q ) That is, the wicked.
( r ) This is spoken according to o...
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Geneva Bible: Job 9:24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: ( s ) he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, [and] who ( t ) [is] he?
( s ) That...
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Geneva Bible: Job 9:27 If ( u ) I say, I will forget my complaint, I will leave off my heaviness, and comfort [myself]:
( u ) I think not to fall into these afflictions, bu...
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Geneva Bible: Job 9:29 [If] I be wicked, why then ( x ) labour I in vain?
( x ) Why does God not destroy me at once? thus he speaks according to the infirmity of the flesh....
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Geneva Bible: Job 9:30 If I wash ( y ) myself with snow water, and make my hands never so clean;
( y ) Though I seem pure in my own eyes, yet all is but corruption before G...
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Geneva Bible: Job 9:31 Yet shalt thou plunge me in the ditch, and mine own ( z ) clothes shall abhor me.
( z ) Whatever I would use to cover my filthiness with, it would di...
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Geneva Bible: Job 9:33 Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, ( a ) [that] might lay his hand upon us both.
( a ) Who might make an accord between God and me, speaking of...
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Geneva Bible: Job 9:35 [Then] would I speak, and not fear him; ( b ) but [it is] not so with me.
( b ) Signifying that God's judgments keep him in awe.
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TSK Synopsis -> Job 9:1-35
TSK Synopsis: Job 9:1-35 - --1 Job acknowledges God's justice.22 Man's innocency is not to be condemned by afflictions.
Maclaren -> Job 9:1-35
Maclaren: Job 9:1-35 - --The End Of The Lord'
"Then Job answered the Lord, and said, 2. I know that Thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from Thee...
MHCC: Job 9:14-21 - --Job is still righteous in his own eyes, Job 32:1, and this answer, though it sets forth the power and majesty of God, implies that the question betwee...
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MHCC: Job 9:22-24 - --Job touches briefly upon the main point now in dispute. His friends maintained that those who are righteous and good, always prosper in this world, an...
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MHCC: Job 9:25-35 - --What little need have we of pastimes, and what great need to redeem time, when it runs on so fast towards eternity! How vain the enjoyments of time, w...
Matthew Henry: Job 9:14-21 - -- What Job had said of man's utter inability to contend with God he here applies to himself, and in effect despairs of gaining his favour, which (some...
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Matthew Henry: Job 9:22-24 - -- Here Job touches briefly upon the main point now in dispute between him and his friends. They maintained that those who are righteous and good alway...
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Matthew Henry: Job 9:25-35 - -- Job here grows more and more querulous, and does not conclude this chapter with such reverent expressions of God's wisdom and justice as he began wi...
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 9:21-24 - --
21 Whether I am innocent, I know not myself,
My life is offensive to me.
22 There is one thing-therefore I maintain - :
The innocent and wicked H...
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Keil-Delitzsch: Job 9:25-28 - --
25 My days were swifter than a runner,
They fled away without seeing prosperity,
26 They shot by as ships of reeds,
As an eagle which dasheth upo...
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Keil-Delitzsch: Job 9:29-33 - --
29 If I am wicked, why do I exert myself in vain?
30 If I should wash myself with snow water,
And make my hands clean with lye,
31 Then thou woul...
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Keil-Delitzsch: Job 9:34-35 - --
34 Let Him take away His rod from me,
And let His terrors not stupify me.
35 Then I would speak and not fear Him,
For not thus do I stand with my...
Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14
The two soliloquies of Job (c...
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Constable: Job 9:13-24 - --The arbitrary actions of God 9:13-24
Rahab (v. 13) was a name ancient Near Easterners us...
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