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Text -- John 6:68-71 (NET)

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6:68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life. 6:69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God!” 6:70 Jesus replied, “Didn’t I choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is the devil?” 6:71 (Now he said this about Judas son of Simon Iscariot, for Judas, one of the twelve, was going to betray him.)
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

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 · Iscariot the surname of Judas, the man who betrayed Christ
 · Judas a son of Mary and Joseph; half-brother of Jesus)
 · Peter a man who was a leader among the twelve apostles and wrote the two epistles of Peter
 · Simon a son of Jonas and brother of Andrew; an apostle of Jesus Christ,a man who was one of the apostles of Christ and also called 'the Zealot',a brother of Jesus,a man who was a well-know victim of leprosy who had been healed by Jesus (NIV note),a man from Cyrene who was forced to carry the cross of Jesus,a Pharisee man in whose house Jesus' feet were washed with tears and anointed,the father of Judas Iscariot,a man who was a sorcerer in Samaria and who wanted to buy the gifts of the Spirit,a man who was a tanner at Joppa and with whom Peter was staying when Cornelius sent for him


Dictionary Themes and Topics: WORD | Twelve, the | SIMON (2) | SATAN | Peter | PETER, SIMON | LORD'S SUPPER; (EUCHARIST) | LIVELY; LIVING | Judas | Jesus, The Christ | JUDAS ISCARIOT | JOHN, GOSPEL OF | JESUS CHRIST, 4C2 | JESUS CHRIST, 3 | Faith | Disciple | Decision | Capernaum | CHRISTIANITY | CHOOSE; CHOSEN | more
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Robertson: Joh 6:68 - -- Lord, to whom shall we go? ( Kurie ,pros tina apeleusometha ). Peter is the spokesman as usual and his words mean that, if such a thought as deserti...

Lord, to whom shall we go? ( Kurie ,pros tina apeleusometha ).

Peter is the spokesman as usual and his words mean that, if such a thought as desertion crossed their minds when the crowd left, they dismissed it instantly. They had made their choice. They accepted these very words of Jesus that had caused the defection as "the words of eternal life."

Robertson: Joh 6:69 - -- We have believed ( hēmeis pepisteukamen ). Perfect active indicative of pisteuō , "We have come to believe and still believe"(Joh 6:29).

We have believed ( hēmeis pepisteukamen ).

Perfect active indicative of pisteuō , "We have come to believe and still believe"(Joh 6:29).

Robertson: Joh 6:69 - -- And know ( kai egnōkamen ). Same tense of ginōskō , "We have come to know and still know."

And know ( kai egnōkamen ).

Same tense of ginōskō , "We have come to know and still know."

Robertson: Joh 6:69 - -- Thou art the Holy One of God ( su ei ho hagios tou theou ). Bernard follows those who believe that this is John’ s report of the same confession...

Thou art the Holy One of God ( su ei ho hagios tou theou ).

Bernard follows those who believe that this is John’ s report of the same confession given by the Synoptics (Mar 8:27.; Mat 16:13-20; Luk 9:18.), an utterly unjustifiable conclusion. The details are wholly different. Here in the synagogue in Capernaum, there on Mt. Hermon near Caesarea Philippi. What earthly difficulty is there in supposing that Peter could make a noble confession twice? That is to my mind a wooden conception of the apostles in their growing apprehension of Christ.

Robertson: Joh 6:70 - -- And one of you is a devil ( kai ex humōn heis diabolos estin ). Jesus does not say that Judas was a devil when he chose him, but that he is one now...

And one of you is a devil ( kai ex humōn heis diabolos estin ).

Jesus does not say that Judas was a devil when he chose him, but that he is one now. In Joh 13:2, Joh 13:27 John speaks of the devil entering Judas. How soon the plan to betray Jesus first entered the heart of Judas we do not know (Joh 12:4). One wonders if the words of Jesus here did not cut Judas to the quick.

Robertson: Joh 6:71 - -- Of Simon Iscariot ( Simōnos Iskariōtou ). So his father was named Iscariot also, a man of Kerioth (possibly in Judah, Jos 15:25, possibly in Moab...

Of Simon Iscariot ( Simōnos Iskariōtou ).

So his father was named Iscariot also, a man of Kerioth (possibly in Judah, Jos 15:25, possibly in Moab, Jer 48:24), not in Galilee. Judas was the only one of the twelve not a Galilean. The rest of the verse is like Joh 12:4.

Robertson: Joh 6:71 - -- One of the twelve ( heis ek tōn dōdeka ). The eternal horror of the thing.

One of the twelve ( heis ek tōn dōdeka ).

The eternal horror of the thing.

Vincent: Joh 6:68 - -- Simon Peter Assailants of the authenticity of John's Gospel have asserted that it reveals an effort on the part of the writer to claim for the di...

Simon Peter

Assailants of the authenticity of John's Gospel have asserted that it reveals an effort on the part of the writer to claim for the disciple whom Jesus loved a pre-eminence above Peter. The assertion is effectually contradicted by the narrative itself. See Joh 1:42; Joh 6:68; Joh 13:6; Joh 18:10, Joh 18:16; Joh 20:2, Joh 20:7; Joh 21:3, Joh 21:7, Joh 21:11, and notes on those passages. Peter's replying for the twelve, in this passage, is a case in point.

Vincent: Joh 6:68 - -- The words of eternal life ( ῥήματα ζωῆς αἰωνίου ) There is no article. Thou hast words . Words of life are words whic...

The words of eternal life ( ῥήματα ζωῆς αἰωνίου )

There is no article. Thou hast words . Words of life are words which carry life with them. Compare the phrases bread of life , light of life , water of life , tree of life .

Vincent: Joh 6:69 - -- Are sure ( ἐγνώκαμεν ) Literally, have come to know . The order of the words believe and know is reversed in Joh 17:8; 1J...

Are sure ( ἐγνώκαμεν )

Literally, have come to know . The order of the words believe and know is reversed in Joh 17:8; 1Jo 4:16. In the case of the first disciples, faith , produced by the overpowering impression of Jesus' works and person, preceded intellectual conviction.

Vincent: Joh 6:69 - -- That Christ, the Son of the living God The best texts substitute ὁ ἅγιος τοῦ Θεοῦ , the holy one of God . The oth...

That Christ, the Son of the living God

The best texts substitute ὁ ἅγιος τοῦ Θεοῦ , the holy one of God . The other reading has resulted from the attempt to bring Peter's confession here into accord with that in Mat 16:16. The two confessions differ in that " here the confession points to the inward character in which the Apostles found the assurance of life; there the confession was of the public office and theocratic person of the Lord" (Westcott).

Vincent: Joh 6:70 - -- A devil ( διάβολος ) See on Mat 4:1. The word is an adjective, meaning slanderous , but is almost invariably used in the New Testament...

A devil ( διάβολος )

See on Mat 4:1. The word is an adjective, meaning slanderous , but is almost invariably used in the New Testament as a noun, and with the definite article. The article is wanting only in 1Pe 5:8; Act 13:10; Rev 12:9; and perhaps Rev 20:2. It is of the very essence of the devilish nature to oppose Christ. Compare Mat 16:23.

Vincent: Joh 6:71 - -- Judas Iscariot the son of Simon ( Ἱούδαν Σίμωνος Ἱσκαριώτην ). The correct reading is Ἱσκαριώτου ,...

Judas Iscariot the son of Simon ( Ἱούδαν Σίμωνος Ἱσκαριώτην ).

The correct reading is Ἱσκαριώτου , Iscariot , agreeing in the genitive case with Σίμωνος , of Simon . Render, as Rev., Judas , the son of Simon Iscariot . Iscariot denotes the name of Simon's town: a man of Kerioth . See on Mat 10:5.

Wesley: Joh 6:68 - -- Thou, and thou alone, speakest the words which show the way to life everlasting.

Thou, and thou alone, speakest the words which show the way to life everlasting.

Wesley: Joh 6:69 - -- Who have been with thee from the beginning, whatever others do, have known - Are absolutely assured, that thou art the Christ.

Who have been with thee from the beginning, whatever others do, have known - Are absolutely assured, that thou art the Christ.

Wesley: Joh 6:70 - -- And yet even ye have not all acted suitable to this knowledge.

And yet even ye have not all acted suitable to this knowledge.

Wesley: Joh 6:70 - -- But they might fall even from that election.

But they might fall even from that election.

Wesley: Joh 6:70 - -- On this gracious warning, Judas ought to have repented; is a devil - Is now influenced by one.

On this gracious warning, Judas ought to have repented; is a devil - Is now influenced by one.

JFB: Joh 6:66-71 - -- Or, in consequence of this. Those last words of our Lord seemed to have given them the finishing stroke--they could not stand it any longer.

Or, in consequence of this. Those last words of our Lord seemed to have given them the finishing stroke--they could not stand it any longer.

JFB: Joh 6:66-71 - -- Many a journey, it may be, they had taken with Him, but now they gave Him up finally!

Many a journey, it may be, they had taken with Him, but now they gave Him up finally!

JFB: Joh 6:68 - -- Whose forwardness in this case was noble, and to the wounded spirit of His Lord doubtless very grateful.

Whose forwardness in this case was noble, and to the wounded spirit of His Lord doubtless very grateful.

JFB: Joh 6:68 - -- That is, "We cannot deny that we have been staggered as well as they, and seeing so many go away who, as we thought, might have been retained by teach...

That is, "We cannot deny that we have been staggered as well as they, and seeing so many go away who, as we thought, might have been retained by teaching a little less hard to take in, our own endurance has been severely tried, nor have we been able to stop short of the question, Shall we follow the rest, and give it up? But when it came to this, our light returned, and our hearts were reassured. For as soon as we thought of going away, there arose upon us that awful question, 'TO WHOM shall we go?' To the lifeless formalism and wretched traditions of the elders? to the gods many and lords many of the heathen around us? or to blank unbelief? Nay, Lord, we are shut up. They have none of that 'ETERNAL LIFE' to offer us whereof Thou hast been discoursing, in words rich and ravishing as well as in words staggering to human wisdom. That life we cannot want; that life we have learnt to crave as a necessity of the deeper nature which Thou hast awakened: 'the words of that eternal life' (the authority to reveal it and the power to confer it). Thou hast: Therefore will we stay with Thee--we must."

JFB: Joh 6:69 - -- (See on Mat 16:16). Peter seems to have added this not merely--probably not so much--as an assurance to his Lord of his heart's belief in Him, as for ...

(See on Mat 16:16). Peter seems to have added this not merely--probably not so much--as an assurance to his Lord of his heart's belief in Him, as for the purpose of fortifying himself and his faithful brethren against that recoil from his Lord's harsh statements which he was probably struggling against with difficulty at that moment. Note.--There are seasons when one's faith is tried to the utmost, particularly by speculative difficulties; the spiritual eye then swims, and all truth seems ready to depart from us. At such seasons, a clear perception that to abandon the faith of Christ is to face black desolation, ruin and death; and on recoiling from this, to be able to fall back, not merely on first principles and immovable foundations, but on personal experience of a Living Lord in whom all truth is wrapt up and made flesh for our very benefit--this is a relief unspeakable. Under that blessed Wing taking shelter, until we are again fit to grapple with the questions that have staggered us, we at length either find our way through them, or attain to a calm satisfaction in the discovery that they lie beyond the limits of present apprehension.

JFB: Joh 6:70 - -- "Well said, Simon-Barjonas, but that 'we' embraces not so wide a circle as in the simplicity of thine heart thou thinkest; for though I have chosen yo...

"Well said, Simon-Barjonas, but that 'we' embraces not so wide a circle as in the simplicity of thine heart thou thinkest; for though I have chosen you but twelve, one even of these is a 'devil'" (the temple, the tool of that wicked one).

Clarke: Joh 6:68 - -- Simon Peter answered - With his usual zeal and readiness, speaking in behalf of the whole, To whom shall we go? Where shall we find a more gracious ...

Simon Peter answered - With his usual zeal and readiness, speaking in behalf of the whole, To whom shall we go? Where shall we find a more gracious master - a more powerful Redeemer - a more suitable Savior? Thou alone hast the words of eternal life. None can teach the doctrine of salvation but thyself; and none can confer the gift of eternal life but thou alone. Reader, let me ask, whither art thou going? Has the world - the devil - the flesh - the words of eternal life? Art thou turning thy back upon God and Christ? For thy zealous services, what has Satan to give thee? Death! hell! and eternal misery! O stop! Cleave to Jesus; he will give thee that happiness which, in vain, thou seekest in the pleasures of sin.

Clarke: Joh 6:69 - -- We believe - On the authority of thy word; and are sure - have known, εγνωκαμεν, by the evidence of thy miracles, that thou art the Christ...

We believe - On the authority of thy word; and are sure - have known, εγνωκαμεν, by the evidence of thy miracles, that thou art the Christ, the promised Messiah. And we belyfath and witen that thu eart Crist Godes Son . Anglo-Saxon. How near is the mother to the daughter tongue

Instead of Christ the Son of the living God, some excellent MSS., BCDL, and others, read ὁ αγιος του Θεου, the holy one of God; and this reading Griesbach has received into the text, leaving out του ζωντος, the living. Χριστος, and ἁγιος convey nearly the same meaning; but the Ethiopic, as usual, retains both. Του ζωντες is omitted by BCDL, H, the Coptic, Sahidic, Armenian, later Persic, Vulgate, all the Itala but one, and by the Anglo-Saxon; which last Griesbach has not noticed.

Clarke: Joh 6:70 - -- Have not I chosen you twelve - Have I not, in an especial manner, called you to believe in my name, and chosen you to be my disciples and the propag...

Have not I chosen you twelve - Have I not, in an especial manner, called you to believe in my name, and chosen you to be my disciples and the propagators of my doctrine! Nevertheless, one of you is a devil, or accuser, enlisted on the side of Satan, who was a murderer from the beginning.

Clarke: Joh 6:71 - -- He spake of Judas - for he it was that should betray him - Οὑτος γαρ ημελλεν αυτον παραδιδοναι, He who was about t...

He spake of Judas - for he it was that should betray him - Οὑτος γαρ ημελλεν αυτον παραδιδοναι, He who was about to deliver him up. By referring to this matter so often, did not our blessed Lord intend to warn Judas? Was not the evil fully exposed to his view? And who dare say that it was impossible for him to avoid what he had so often been warned against? When the temptation did take place, and his heart, in purpose, had brought forth the sin, might he not have relented, fallen at his injured master’ s feet, acknowledge his black offense, and implored forgiveness? And surely his most merciful Lord would have freely pardoned him

1.    On the subject of the disciples sailing off without Christ, and the storm that overtook them, it may be necessary to make a few observations, chiefly for the encouragement of the laborers in God’ s vineyard. It was the duty of the disciples to depart at the commandment of the Lord, though the storm was great, and the wind contrary. It was their duty to tug at the oar, expecting the appearing of their Lord and master. So it is the duty of the ministers of Christ to embark, and sail even into the sea of persecution and dangerous trial, in order to save souls. There may be darkness for a time - they must row. The waves may rise high - they must row on. The wind may be contrary - still they must tug at the oar. Jesus will appear, lay the storm, and calm the sea, and they shall have souls for their hire. The vessel will get to land, and speedily too. There are particular times in which the Lord pours out his Spirit, and multitudes are quickly convinced and converted. "Alas!"says one, "I see no fruit of my labor; no return of my prayers and tears."Take courage, man; tug on; thou shalt not labor in vain, nor spend thy strength for nought. What he does thou knowest not now, but thou shalt know hereafter. Great grace, and great peace await thee; take courage, and tug on

2.    When a man forsakes the living God, and gives way to avarice, which appears to have been the case with Judas, he is fit for any thing in which Satan may choose to employ him. Beware of the love of money! The cursed lust of gold induced a disciple of Christ to betray his God: and has it not been the ruin of millions since? Few people love money merely for its own sake: they love it because it can provide them with the necessaries, conveniences, and comforts of life; those who have not God for their portion incessantly long after these things, and therefore are covetous. While a man watches unto prayer, and abides in the love of Christ Jesus the Lord, so long he is safe, for he is contented with the lot which God has given him in life. Reader, art thou like Judas (in his best state) put in trust for the poor, or for the Church of Christ. Do not covet; and take heed that thou grudge not; nor permit thy heart to be hardened by repeated sights and tales of wo. Thou art but a steward; act faithfully, and act affectionately. Because the ointment that prefigured the death of our Lord was not applied just as Judas would have it, he took offense; betrayed and sold his master; saw and wished to remedy his transgression; despaired and hanged himself. Behold the fruit of covetousness! To what excesses and miseries the love of money may lead, God alone can comprehend. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Calvin: Joh 6:68 - -- 68.Simon Peter therefore answered him. Peter replies here in the name of all, as he does on other occasions; because all of them were of the same min...

68.Simon Peter therefore answered him. Peter replies here in the name of all, as he does on other occasions; because all of them were of the same mind, except that in Judas there was no sincerity. This reply contains two clauses; for Peter first states the reason why he cheerfully adheres to Christ, along with his brethren; namely, because they feel that his doctrine is wholesome and quickening; and, secondly, he acknowledges that to whomsoever they might go, if they left Christ, there remained for them nothing but death.

Thou hast the words of eternal life When he says the words of life, by the phrase of life, he means quickening, using the genitive case instead of the adjective, which is a very common mode of expression among the Hebrews. It is a remarkable commendation bestowed on the Gospel, that it administers to us eternal life, as Paul testifies, that

it is the power of God for salvation to every one who believeth,
(Rom 1:16.)

True, the Law also contains life, but because it denounces against all transgressors 177 the condemnation of eternal death, it can do nothing but kill. Widely different is the manner in which life is offered to us in the Gospel, that is, when God reconciles us to himself through free grace, by not imputing our sins, (2Co 5:19.) It is no ordinary assertion that Peter makes concerning Christ, when he says that he has the words of eternal life; but he ascribes this to Christ as belonging to him alone. Hence follows the second statement which I glanced at a little ago, that as soon as they have gone away from Christ, there remains for them everywhere nothing but death. Certain destruction, therefore, awaits all who, not satisfied with that Teacher, fly to the inventions of men.

Calvin: Joh 6:69 - -- 69.And we have believed and known The verbs are in the past tense, but they may be changed into the present tense, we believe and know, but it makes...

69.And we have believed and known The verbs are in the past tense, but they may be changed into the present tense, we believe and know, but it makes little difference in the meaning. In these words Peter gives a brief summary of faith. But the confession appears to have nothing to do with the matter in hand, for the question had been raised about eating the flesh of Christ. I reply, although the twelve did not at once comprehend all that Christ had taught, yet it is enough that, according to the capacity of their faith, they acknowledge him to be the Author of salvation, and submit themselves to him in all things. The word believe is put first, because the obedience of faith is the commencement of right understanding, or rather, because faith itself is truly the eye of the understanding. But immediately afterwards knowledge is added, which distinguishes faith from erroneous and false opinions; for Mahometans and Jews and Papists believe, but they neither know nor understand any thing. Knowledge is connected with faith, because we are certain and fully convinced of the truth of God, not in the same manner as human sciences are learned, but when the Spirit seals it on our hearts.

Calvin: Joh 6:70 - -- 70.Jesus answered them Since Christ replies to all, we infer from it that all spake by the mouth of Peter. Besides, Christ now prepares and fortifies...

70.Jesus answered them Since Christ replies to all, we infer from it that all spake by the mouth of Peter. Besides, Christ now prepares and fortifies the eleven apostles against a new offense which was already at hand. It was a powerful instrument of Satan for shaking their faith, when they were reduced to so small a number, but the fall of Judas might take away all their courage; for since Christ had chosen that sacred number, who would ever have thought that any portion of the whole number could be torn away? That admonition of Christ may be interpreted thus: “You twelve alone remain out of a large company. If your faith has not been shaken by the unbelief of many, prepare for a new contest; for this company, though small, will be still diminished by one man.”

Have not I chosen you twelve? When Christ says that he has chosen or elected twelve, he does not refer to the eternal purpose of God; for it is impossible that any one of those who have been predestinated to life shall fall away; but, having been chosen to the apostolic office, they ought to have surpassed others in piety and holiness. He used the word chosen, therefore, to denote those who were eminent and distinguished from the ordinary rank.

And one of you is a devil He unquestionably intended, by this name, to hold up Judas to the utmost detestation; for they are mistaken who extenuate the atrocity implied in the name and indeed we cannot sufficiently execrate those who dishonor so sacred an office. Teachers who faithfully discharge their office are called angels

They should seek the law at his mouth, for he is the angel of the Lord of Hosts,
(Mal 2:7.)

Justly, therefore, is he accounted a devil, who, after having been admitted to so honorable a rank, is corrupted through his treachery and wickedness. Another reason is, that God allows more power and liberty to Satan over wicked and ungodly ministers, than over other ordinary men; and therefore, if they who were chosen to be pastors are driven by diabolical rage, so as to resemble wild and monstrous beasts, so far are we from being entitled, on that account, to despise the honorable rank to which they belong, that we ought rather to honor it the more, when the profanation of it is followed by so fearful a punishment.

Calvin: Joh 6:71 - -- 71.He spoke of Judas Although Judas had a bad conscience, still we do not read that he was at all moved. Hypocrites are so stupid that they do not fe...

71.He spoke of Judas Although Judas had a bad conscience, still we do not read that he was at all moved. Hypocrites are so stupid that they do not feel their sores, and in the presence of men they have such hardened effrontery, that they do not scruple to prefer themselves to the very best of men.

Defender: Joh 6:70 - -- Judas was not a true disciple, but he did not "go away" (Joh 6:67) at this time. He continued with the twelve until he could find opportunity to betra...

Judas was not a true disciple, but he did not "go away" (Joh 6:67) at this time. He continued with the twelve until he could find opportunity to betray Jesus. Even at this time, however, he was a "devil." The Greek word here is diabolos, and usually refers to the Devil. It seems most probable that Satan was already controlling Judas, though he didn't "enter into" him and fully possess him until later (Luk 22:3)."

TSK: Joh 6:68 - -- to whom : Psa 73:25 thou hast : Joh 6:40,Joh 6:63, Joh 5:24, Joh 5:39, Joh 5:40; Act 4:12, Act 5:20, Act 7:38; 1Jo 5:11-13

TSK: Joh 6:69 - -- we believe : Joh 1:29, Joh 1:41, Joh 1:45-49, Joh 11:27, Joh 20:28, Joh 20:31; Mat 16:16; Mar 1:1, Mar 8:29; Luk 9:20; Act 8:37; Rom 1:3; 1Jo 5:1, 1Jo...

TSK: Joh 6:70 - -- Have : Joh 6:64, Joh 13:18, Joh 17:12; Mat 10:1-4; Luk 6:13-16; Act 1:17 and one : Joh 8:44, Joh 13:2, Joh 13:21, Joh 13:27; Act 13:10; 1Jo 3:8; Rev 3...

TSK: Joh 6:71 - -- for : Psa 109:6-8; Act 1:16-20, Act 2:23; Jud 1:4 being : Joh 18:2-6; Psa 41:9, Psa 55:13, Psa 55:14; Mat 26:14-16, Mat 27:3-5

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Barnes: Joh 6:68 - -- Simon Peter answered him - With characteristic ardor and promptness. Peter was probably one of the oldest of the apostles, and it was his chara...

Simon Peter answered him - With characteristic ardor and promptness. Peter was probably one of the oldest of the apostles, and it was his character to be first and most ardent in his professions.

To whom shall we go - This implied their firm conviction that Jesus was the Messiah, and that he alone was able to save them. It is one of Peter’ s noble confessions - the instinctive promptings of a pious heart and of ardent love. There was no one else who could teach them. The Pharisees, the Sadducees, and the scribes were corrupt, and unable to guide them aright; and, though the doctrines of Jesus were mysterious, yet they were the only doctrines that could instruct and save them.

Thou hast ... - The meaning of this is, thou teachest the doctrines which lead to eternal life. And from this we may learn:

1.\caps1     t\caps0 hat we are to expect that some of the doctrines of the Bible will be mysterious.

2.\caps1     t\caps0 hat, though they are difficult to be understood, yet we should not therefore reject them.

3.\caps1     t\caps0 hat nothing would be gained by rejecting them. The atheist, the infidel - nay, the philosopher, believes, or professes to believe, propositions quite as mysterious as any in the Bible.

4.\caps1     t\caps0 hat poor, lost, sinful man has nowhere else to go but to Jesus. He is the way, the truth, and the life, and if the sinner betakes himself to any other way he will wander and die.

5.    We should, therefore, on no account forsake the teachings of the Son of God. The words that he speaks are spirit and are life.

Barnes: Joh 6:69 - -- We are sure ... - See a similar confession of Peter in Mat 16:16, and the notes at that place. Peter says we are sure, in the name of the whole...

We are sure ... - See a similar confession of Peter in Mat 16:16, and the notes at that place. Peter says we are sure, in the name of the whole of the apostles. Jesus immediately cautions him, as he did on other occasions, not to be too confident, for one of them actually had no such feelings, but was a traitor.

Barnes: Joh 6:70 - -- Have not I chosen you twelve? - There is much emphasis in these words. Have not I - I, the Saviour, the Messiah, chosen you in mercy and in lo...

Have not I chosen you twelve? - There is much emphasis in these words. Have not I - I, the Saviour, the Messiah, chosen you in mercy and in love, and therefore it will be a greater sin to betray me? Chosen. Chosen to the apostolic office; conferred on you marks of special favor, and treason is therefore the greater sin. You twelve. So small a number. Out of such a multitude as follow for the loaves and fishes, it is to be expected there should be apostates; but when the number is so small, chosen in such a manner, then it becomes every one, however confident he may be, to be on his guard and examine his heart.

Is a devil - Has the spirit, the envy, the malice, and the treasonable designs of a devil. The word "devil"here is used in the sense of an enemy, or one hostile to him.

Barnes: Joh 6:71 - -- He spake of Judas ... - There is no evidence that Jesus designated Judas so that the disciples then understood that it was he. It does not appe...

He spake of Judas ... - There is no evidence that Jesus designated Judas so that the disciples then understood that it was he. It does not appear that the apostles even suspected Judas, as they continued to treat him afterward with the same confidence, for he carried the bag, or the purse containing their little property Joh 12:6; Joh 13:29; and at the table, when Jesus said that one of them would betray him, the rest did not suspect Judas until Jesus pointed him out particularly, Joh 13:26. Jesus spoke of one, to put them on their guard, to check their confidence, and to lead them to self-examination. So in every church, or company of professing Christians, we may know that it is probable that there may be some one or more deceived; but we may not know who it may be, and should therefore inquire prayerfully and honestly, "Lord, is it I?"

Should betray - Would betray. If it be asked why Jesus called a man to be an apostle who he knew had no love for him, who would betray him, and who had from the beginning the spirit of a "devil,"we may reply:

1. It was that Judas might be an important witness for the innocence of Jesus, and for the fact that he was not an impostor. Judas was with him more than three years. He was treated with the same confidence as the others, and in some respects even with superior confidence, as he had "the bag"Joh 12:6, or was the treasurer. He saw the Saviour in public and in private, heard his public discourses and his private conversation, and he would have been just the witness which the high priests and Pharisees would have desired, if he had known any reason why he should be condemned. Yet he alleged nothing against him. Though he betrayed him, yet he afterward said that he was innocent, and, under the convictions of conscience, committed suicide. If Judas had known anything against the Saviour he would have alleged it. If he had known that he was an impostor, and had alleged it, he would have saved his own life and been rewarded. If Jesus was an impostor, he ought to have made it known, and to have bean rewarded for it.

2. It may have been, also, with a foresight of the necessity of having such a man among his disciples, in order that his own death might be brought about in the manner in which it was predicted. There were several prophecies which would have been unfulfilled had there been no such man among the apostles.

3. It showed the knowledge which the Saviour had of the human heart, that he could thus discern character before it was developed, and was able so distinctly to predict that he would betray him.

4. We may add, what benevolence did the Saviour evince - what patience and forbearance - that he had with him for more than three years a man who he knew hated him at heart, and who would yet betray him to be put to death on a cross, and that during all that time he treated him with the utmost kindness!

Poole: Joh 6:68 - -- Peter, who is observed in the whole history of the gospel to have discovered the hottest and quickest spirit, and to have been first in answering qu...

Peter, who is observed in the whole history of the gospel to have discovered the hottest and quickest spirit, and to have been first in answering questions propounded to the twelve, as Mat 16:16 , &c., replies,

Lord, to whom shall we go? &c., thereby teaching us under temptations to apostasy, first, to consider what we shall get by it, as the following words teach us, that an abiding with Christ in a steady adherence to the truths of his gospel, is the best choice that we can make.

Poole: Joh 6:69 - -- We believe (saith Peter) and are sure, both from what we have heard from time, and from the miracles which we have seen wrought by thee, that tho...

We believe (saith Peter) and are sure, both from what we have heard from time, and from the miracles which we have seen wrought by thee,

that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God The very words by which St. Matthew Mat 16:16expresses that noble confession of his, which our Saviour calleth the rock, upon which he would build his church. But notwithstanding this acknowledgment, which speaks the seeds of this faith now sown in the heart of Peter, and the hearts of the rest; yet whoso considereth the passages of the other evangelists after this, will see reason to believe, that their persuasion as to this was but faint, till Christ by his resurrection declared himself the Son of God with power.

Poole: Joh 6:70 - -- Chosen not to eternal life, but to the great office of an apostle. I chose but twelve amongst you, Mat 10:1-4 , and of those twelve one is diabolov ,...

Chosen not to eternal life, but to the great office of an apostle. I chose but twelve amongst you, Mat 10:1-4 , and of those twelve one is diabolov , an accuser, or informer; a name by which the devil (who is the grand accuser of the brethren) is ordinarily expressed in holy writ.

Poole: Joh 6:71 - -- This he spake of Judas Iscariot ( so called, as most think, from the name of the city where he lived), and to distinguish him from the other Judas, ...

This he spake of Judas Iscariot ( so called, as most think, from the name of the city where he lived), and to distinguish him from the other Judas, the brother of James, who wrote the Epistle that goeth by his name, and is a part of holy writ: for he

being one of the twelve chosen and sent out with the rest to preach the gospel, and empowered by miraculous operations to confirm the truth of it; yet it was he that was to betray Christ, as we largely read in all the evangelists’ relation of the passion: to teach us, that no office to which God calleth us, no gifts (except those of special grace) with which God blesseth any man, can secure him of an eternal happy state; nothing can do that but a true saving faith in Jesus Christ, with the obedience of a holy life becoming the gospel of Christ.

Haydock: Joh 6:68 - -- Jesus said to the twelve: Will you also go away? He shews them, says St. John Chrysostom, that he stood not in need of them, and so leaves them to t...

Jesus said to the twelve: Will you also go away? He shews them, says St. John Chrysostom, that he stood not in need of them, and so leaves them to their free choice. (Witham) ---

Jesus Christ remarking in the previous verse that the apostate disciples had left him, to walk no more with him, turning to the twelve, asks them, Will you also go away? The twelve had heard all that passed; they had seen the Jews strive amongst themselves, and the disciples murmur and leave their Master; they understood what he said in the same literal sense; it could, indeed, bear no other meaning; but when Jesus put the above question to them, leaving them to their free choice, whether to follow him, or to withdraw themselves, Simon Peter answered him: "Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life;" and therefore art able to make good thy words, however hard and difficult they may appear to others. ---

We may here admire not only the excellency of their faith, but the plain, yet noble motive of their faith: they believe, because he is Christ, the Son of God, (or, as it is in the Greek, the Son of the living God ) who is absolutely incapable of deceiving his creatures, and whose power is perfectly equal to perform the promises he here makes them.

Haydock: Joh 6:69 - -- Simon Peter, the chief or head of them, said in the name of the rest: Lord, to whom shall we go? It is only from thee that we hope for salvation. ...

Simon Peter, the chief or head of them, said in the name of the rest: Lord, to whom shall we go? It is only from thee that we hope for salvation. Thou hast the words of eternal life: we have believed, and known, and remain in this belief, that thou art the Christ, the Son of God. (Witham)

Concluding reflections on this chapter.

If we take into consideration all the circumstances of this chapter, it will be difficult to conceive how any person can bring their mind to think that there is no connexion between this chapter and the institution of the blessed sacrament. It must proceed, as Dr. Clever, the Protestant Bishop of Bangor, affirms, "from the fear of giving advantage to the doctrine of transubstantiation." He moreover adds: "whilst the institution is considered as a memorial only, nothing can well be further from being plain." See his Sermon on the Lord's Supper. The holy Fathers have unanimously understood these repeated promises of Christ with a reference to the institution. St. Cyprian, of the third age [century] quoting the promises of Christ, the bread which I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world, deduces this conclusion: "Hence it is manifest, that they have this life, who touch his body, and receive the Eucharist." Qui corpus ejus attingunt. (De Orat. Dom. p. 147.) St. Hilary, of the fourth age [century] quoting Christ's words, says: "there is no place left to doubt of the truth of Christ's flesh and blood, de veritate carnis et sanguinis non relictus est ambigendi locus; for now, by the profession of the Lord himself, and according to our belief, it is truly flesh and truly blood." (De Trin. lib. viii. p. 954-6.) St. Basil, of the fourth century also, citing ver. 53 and 54 of this chapter, says: "about the things that God has spoken there should be no hesitation, nor doubt, but a firm persuasion that all is true and possible, though nature be against it: Greek: Kan e phusis machetai. Herein lies the struggle of faith." (Reg. viii. Moral. t. 2, p. 240.) Again the same saint says: "it is very profitable every day, to partake of the body and blood of Christ, Greek: phagein to soma kai piein to aima tou kuriou emon, for he that eateth my flesh. &c. (John vi. 55.) ---

"We communicate four times in the week; on Sunday, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday, and on the other days, if there be a commemoration of any saint." (Ep. xcii. t. 3, p. 186.) ---

St. Ambrose, of the same age, says: "the manna in the desert was given in figure. You have known things more excellent. For light is preferable to the shadow; truth to the figure; the body of Christ to the manna of heaven. But you may say: I see somewhat else: how do you assert that I shall receive the body of Christ?" He gives this answer: "How much more powerful is the virtue of the divine blessing, than that of nature; because by the former, nature itself is changed? ... If the blessing of men (he here instances Moses changing a rod into a serpent, and many other miraculous changes) was powerful enough to change nature, what must we not say of the divine consecration, when the very words of the Lord operate? For that sacrament which we receive, is accomplished by the word of Christ. If the word of Elias could call down fire from heaven, shall not the word of Christ be able to change the outward elements? ... The word of Christ could draw out of nothing what was not, shall it not be able to change the things that are into that which they were not? ... Was the order of nature followed when Jesus was born of a Virgin? Certainly not. Then why is that order to be looked for here? It was the true flesh of Christ, which was crucified, which was buried; and this is truly the sacrament of his flesh ... Our Lord himself proclaims, This is my body." ---

If Jesus Christ, during his public ministry, performed so many visible and palpable miracles as we read of in the gospels, was it not to induce us to believe without doubting the truths that escape our senses, and surpass our reason? If we believe the water was changed into wine at the marriage feast of Cana; if we believe that the bread in the hands of Christ and his apostles was not diminished, by being broken and divided among five thousand, why cannot we believe the miracle of the Eucharist on the authority of Christ's word, "the bread that I will give you, is my flesh? This is my body," &c. Not one of all the ancient Fathers has ever denied the real presence; not one of them all has ever said, that the body of Jesus Christ is received in figure only.

Gill: Joh 6:68 - -- Then Simon Peter answered him,.... Who was strong in the faith of Christ, and full of zeal for him, and love to him; and who was the mouth of the apos...

Then Simon Peter answered him,.... Who was strong in the faith of Christ, and full of zeal for him, and love to him; and who was the mouth of the apostles, and always forward to speak out of the abundance and sincerity of his heart, in their name; believing, that they all of them, for he had now no suspicion of Judas, no more than of the rest, had the same faith in Christ, love to him, and esteem of him, as he himself had; wherefore out of a good opinion of them, and love to Christ, he thus addressed him:

Lord; or "my Lord"; as the Syriac version renders it; which was either a title of respect, and the same with "Sir" with us; or else, as acknowledging the dominion and authority of Christ, as Lord of all, and especially of the saints, and as claiming his interest in him; and which carries in it a reason, why he should abide by him:

to whom shall we go? as a teacher, whose ministry we can attend upon, to greater profit and advantage? not to the Scribes and Pharisees, whose leaven, or doctrine, Christ had bid them beware of; who taught for doctrines the commandments of men, and were blind leaders of the blind; nor to John the Baptist, who had declared he was not the Messiah; but had pointed him out to them in his person, as the son of God; and in his office as the Lamb of God, that takes away the sins of men; and perhaps, he might not be now living; and if he was, he would have encouraged them not to follow him, but abide with their master; so that there was no other, that was "better", as Nonnus expresses it, that they could go unto; and therefore it would be folly and madness in them to leave him: and as it was with Peter and the rest of the disciples, so it is with all sensible sinners, and true believers, who see there is no other to go to for life and salvation, but Christ; not to the law of Moses, which accuses, curses, and condemns, and by which there is neither life nor righteousness; nor to any creature, or creature performance, for there is a curse on him that trusts in man, and makes flesh his arm; nor to their own righteousness, which is impure and imperfect, and cannot justify before God, nor answer for them in a time to come; nor to their tears of repentance, which will not satisfy the law, atone for sins, or wash them away; nor to carnal descent, birth privileges, a religious education, sobriety, and civility, to trust to which, is to have confidence in the flesh, which will be of no avail; nor to ceremonial services, or moral duties, or even evangelical ordinances, neither of which can take away sin. There is no other Saviour, but Christ, to look to; no other Mediator between God and man, to make use of; no other physician of value, for diseased and sin sick souls to apply unto; no other fountain but his blood, for polluted souls to wash in, and be cleansed; no other city of refuge, or strong hold, for souls sensible of danger, to flee unto and be safe; no other to come to as the bread of life, where hungry souls may be fed; no other place of rest, for those that are weary and heavy laden; nor is there any other, where there is plenty of all grace, and security from every enemy, as in him: and therefore, to whom can they have recourse, but unto him? and that for the following reason,

thou hast the words of eternal life: meaning, either the promises of eternal life, which were made before the world began, and were put into Christ's hands, for his people, and are yea and amen in him; or the doctrines of eternal life; for so the Gospel, and the truths of it, are called, Act 5:20; and that because the Gospel brings life and immortality to light, gives an account of eternal life; of the nature of it, that it is a glorious life, a life free from all the sorrows of the present one; a life of pleasure, and of perfect knowledge and holiness, and which will last for ever: and because it points out the way to it, that it is not by the works of the law, but by the grace of God; that it is his free gift, through Christ; and that Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, or the true way to eternal life: and because it is a means of quickening dead sinners, and of reviving true believers, and of nourishing them up unto everlasting life: or this phrase may design the power and authority which Christ has, to dispose of, and dispense eternal life; for he has the firing itself in his hands, and a power to give it to as many as the father has given him; and to them he does give it: and each of these senses carry in them a reason why souls should go to Christ, and to him only, for life and salvation.

Gill: Joh 6:69 - -- And we believe and are sure,.... Or know of a certainty: they believed upon the first call of them by Christ, and their following of him, that he was ...

And we believe and are sure,.... Or know of a certainty: they believed upon the first call of them by Christ, and their following of him, that he was the true Messiah; and they came to an assurance of it, by the miracles he wrought, and by the doctrines which he taught; their faith, how weak soever it might be at first, rose up to a full assurance of faith, and of understanding; there was a reality and a certainty in it, as there is in all true faith, with respect to the object, though not always with respect to interest in it; which was the case here, as appears by what follows:

that thou art that Christ; or Messiah, that was promised by God of old, spoken of by the prophets, and expected by the Jews; that anointed prophet Moses had spoken of, that should arise out of Israel, like unto him that anointed priest, who, according to the oath of God, was to be priest for ever, after the order of Melchizedek; and that anointed King, whom God has set over his holy hill of Zion:

the son of the living God; this they knew, and were sure of, both by John's testimony, and by the father's voice from heaven; which three of them heard, at Christ's transfiguration on the mount: God the father is called "the living God"; though the Vulgate Latin version leaves out the word "living"; not to distinguish him from his son; for he also is the living God; and is so called, Heb 3:12, but to distinguish him from the idols of the Gentiles, who have no life nor breath in them: and Christ is called the son of the living God, as he is a divine person, as he is truly God; and to show that he has the same life his father has; being a partaker of the same nature, and divine perfections: and this is another reason why sensible souls will go to Christ, and no other; because he is the Messiah, the Saviour, and Redeemer, and an able one; and because he is God, and there is none else.

Gill: Joh 6:70 - -- Jesus answered them,.... The disciples, taking Peter's answer to his question, as delivered in the name of them all, and as expressing their mind and ...

Jesus answered them,.... The disciples, taking Peter's answer to his question, as delivered in the name of them all, and as expressing their mind and sense:

have not I chosen you twelve; not to grace and glory, to holiness and happiness; though this was true of eleven of them, but to be apostles:

and one of you is a devil? or like to one, is a deceiver, a liar, and a murderer, as the devil is from the beginning; all which Judas was, and appeared to be, in the betraying of his master. The Syriac, Persic, and Ethiopic versions read, "is Satan"; which name, if given to Peter, as it once was on a certain occasion, Mat 16:23, might very well be given to Judas; who, notwithstanding his profession of faith in Christ, was in the hands and kingdom of Satan, and under his influence and power: and this our Lord said, partly that they might not too much presume upon their faith and love, and steady attachment, and be over confident of their standing; and partly, to prepare them for the apostasy of one from among them.

Gill: Joh 6:71 - -- He spake of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon,.... These are the words of the evangelist, pointing out the person Christ intended, lest any other shou...

He spake of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon,.... These are the words of the evangelist, pointing out the person Christ intended, lest any other should be suspected:

for he it was that should betray him: as it was determined and foretold, and which Christ knew full well, and therefore said the above words:

being one of the twelve; apostles, whom Christ had chosen, and which was an aggravation of his crime.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 6:69 You have the words of eternal life…you are the Holy One of God! In contrast to the response of some of his disciples, here is the response of th...

NET Notes: Joh 6:70 Although most translations render this last phrase as “one of you is a devil,” such a translation presupposes that there is more than one ...

NET Notes: Joh 6:71 This parenthetical statement by the author helps the reader understand Jesus’ statement one of you is the devil in the previous verse. This is t...

Geneva Bible: Joh 6:70 ( 16 ) Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? ( 16 ) The number of the professors of Christ is very small, and...

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TSK Synopsis: Joh 6:1-71 - --1 Christ feeds five thousand men with five loaves and two fishes.15 Thereupon the people would have made him king;16 but withdrawing himself, he walks...

Combined Bible: Joh 6:60-71 - --of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 24    Christ and His Disciples    John 6:60-71    The following is sub...

MHCC: Joh 6:66-71 - --When we admit into our minds hard thoughts of the words and works of Jesus, we enter into temptation, which, if the Lord in mercy prevent not, will en...

Matthew Henry: Joh 6:60-71 - -- We have here an account of the effects of Christ's discourse. Some were offended and others edified by it; some driven from him and others brought...

Barclay: Joh 6:66-71 - --Here is a passage instinct with tragedy, for in it is the beginning of the end. There was a time when men came to Jesus in large numbers. When he w...

Constable: Joh 1:19--13:1 - --II. Jesus' public ministry 1:19--12:50 The first part of the body of John's Gospel records Jesus' public ministr...

Constable: Joh 6:1--7:10 - --G. Jesus' later Galilean ministry 6:1-7:9 This section of the text records the high point of Jesus' popu...

Constable: Joh 6:60--7:10 - --4. The responses to the bread of life discourse 6:60-7:9 Considerable discussion followed Jesus ...

Constable: Joh 6:66-71 - --The response of the Twelve 6:66-71 6:66 Jesus lost many of His followers because of the Bread of Life discourse (cf. v. 60). His explanation to them f...

College: Joh 6:1-71 - --JOHN 6 2. The Passover and Jesus' Explanation of the Exodus (6:1-71) The Background (6:1-4) 1 Some time after this, Jesus crossed to the far shore ...

McGarvey: Joh 6:22-71 - -- LXIV. DISCOURSE ON SPIRITUAL FOOD AND TRUE DISCIPLESHIP. PETER'S CONFESSION. (At the synagogue in Capernaum.) dJOHN VI. 22-71.    d22...

Lapide: Joh 6:1-71 - --CHAPTER 6 Ver. 1.— After this, &c. Tiberias is here named, because the desert in which Christ fed the five thousand was near to Tiberias. After ...

Lapide: Joh 6:59-71 - --Ver. 59.— This is the bread, &c. He intimates the same thing which I have said at the end of the foregoing verse. For Christ came down from heaven ...

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Evidence: Joh 6:68 The uniqueness of Jesus . " This Jesus of Nazareth, without money and arms, conquered more millions than Alexander, Caesar, Mohammed, and Napoleon; wi...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 6 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 6:1, Christ feeds five thousand men with five loaves and two fishes; Joh 6:15, Thereupon the people would have made him king; Joh 6:1...

Poole: John 6 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 6

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 6 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 6:1-14) Five thousand miraculously fed. (Joh 6:15-21) Jesus walks on the sea. (Joh 6:22-27) He directs to spiritual food. (v. 28-65) His disco...

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 6 (Chapter Introduction) In this chapter we have, I. The miracle of the loaves (Joh 6:1-14). II. Christ's walking upon the water (Joh 6:15-21). III. The people's flockin...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 6 (Chapter Introduction) The Loaves And Fishes (Joh_6:1-13) The Meaning Of A Miracle (Joh_6:1-13 Continued) The Response Of The Mob (Joh_6:14-15) A Very Present Help In T...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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