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Text -- Philippians 3:8 (NET)
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Robertson: Phi 3:8 - -- Yea, verily, and ( alla men oun ge kai ).
Five particles before Paul proceeds (yea, indeed, therefore, at least, even), showing the force and passion...
Yea, verily, and (
Five particles before Paul proceeds (yea, indeed, therefore, at least, even), showing the force and passion of his conviction. He repeats his affirmation with the present middle indicative (
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Robertson: Phi 3:8 - -- Dung ( skubala ).
Late word of uncertain etymology, either connected with skōr (dung) or from es kunas ballō , to fling to the dogs and so refu...
Dung (
Late word of uncertain etymology, either connected with
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Robertson: Phi 3:8 - -- That I may gain Christ ( hina Christon kerdēsō ).
First aorist active subjunctive of kerdaō , Ionic form for kerdainō with hina in purpos...
That I may gain Christ (
First aorist active subjunctive of
Vincent: Phi 3:8 - -- Yea doubtless ( ἀλλὰ μὲν οὖν )
Ἁλλὰ but , Phi 3:7, puts that verse in direct contrast with the preceding verse. Ἁ...
Yea doubtless (
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Vincent: Phi 3:8 - -- For the excellency, etc. ( διὰ )
On account of: because the knowledge of Christ is so much greater than all things else.
For the excellency, etc. (
On account of: because the knowledge of Christ is so much greater than all things else.
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Vincent: Phi 3:8 - -- I have suffered the loss ( ἐζημιώθην )
Rev., better, I suffered ; when I embraced Christianity. Lit., was mulcted . See on Mat...
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Vincent: Phi 3:8 - -- Dung ( σκύβαλα )
Rev., refuse . Either excrement or what is thrown away from the table ; leavings . The derivation is u...
Dung (
Rev., refuse . Either excrement or what is thrown away from the table ; leavings . The derivation is uncertain. According to some it is a contraction from
Wesley: Phi 3:8 - -- Yea, I still account both all these and all things else to be mere loss, compared to the inward, experimental knowledge of Christ, as my Lord, as my p...
Yea, I still account both all these and all things else to be mere loss, compared to the inward, experimental knowledge of Christ, as my Lord, as my prophet, priest, and king, as teaching me wisdom, atoning for my sins, and reigning in my heart. To refer this to justification only, is miserably to pervert the whole scope of the words. They manifestly relate to sanctification also; yea, to that chiefly.
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Wesley: Phi 3:8 - -- Which the world loves, esteems, or admires; of which I am so far from repenting, that I still account them but dung - The discourse rises. Loss is sus...
Which the world loves, esteems, or admires; of which I am so far from repenting, that I still account them but dung - The discourse rises. Loss is sustained with patience, but dung is cast away with abhorrence. The Greek word signifies any, the vilest refuse of things, the dross of metals, the dregs of liquors, the excrements of animals, the most worthless scraps of meat, the basest offals, fit only for dogs.
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Wesley: Phi 3:8 - -- He that loses all things, not excepting himself, gains Christ, and is gained by Christ. And still there is more; which even St. Paul speaks of his hav...
He that loses all things, not excepting himself, gains Christ, and is gained by Christ. And still there is more; which even St. Paul speaks of his having not yet gained.
JFB: Phi 3:8 - -- The oldest manuscripts omit "doubtless" (Greek, "ge"): translate, "nay more." Not only "have I counted" those things just mentioned "loss for Christ's...
The oldest manuscripts omit "doubtless" (Greek, "ge"): translate, "nay more." Not only "have I counted" those things just mentioned "loss for Christ's sake, but, moreover, I even DO count ALL things but loss," &c.
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JFB: Phi 3:8 - -- Greek, "On account of the surpassing excellency (the supereminence above them all) of the knowledge of Christ Jesus."
Greek, "On account of the surpassing excellency (the supereminence above them all) of the knowledge of Christ Jesus."
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Not merely I "counted" them "loss," but have actually lost them.
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JFB: Phi 3:8 - -- The Greek has the article, referring to the preceding "all things"; "I have suffered the loss of them all."
The Greek has the article, referring to the preceding "all things"; "I have suffered the loss of them all."
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JFB: Phi 3:8 - -- Greek, "refuse (such as excrements, dregs, dross) cast to the dogs," as the derivation expresses. A "loss" is of something having value; but "refuse" ...
Greek, "refuse (such as excrements, dregs, dross) cast to the dogs," as the derivation expresses. A "loss" is of something having value; but "refuse" is thrown away as not worthy of being any more touched or looked at.
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JFB: Phi 3:8 - -- Translate, to accord with the translation, Phi 3:7, "gain Christ." A man cannot make other things his "gain" or chief confidence, and at the same time...
Translate, to accord with the translation, Phi 3:7, "gain Christ." A man cannot make other things his "gain" or chief confidence, and at the same time "gain Christ." He who loses all things, and even himself, on account of Christ, gains Christ: Christ is His, and He is Christ's (Son 2:16; Son 6:3; Luk 9:23-24; 1Co 3:23).
Clarke: Phi 3:8 - -- I count all things but loss - Not only my Jewish privileges, but all others of every kind; with every thing that men count valuable or gainful, or o...
I count all things but loss - Not only my Jewish privileges, but all others of every kind; with every thing that men count valuable or gainful, or on which they usually depend for salvation
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Clarke: Phi 3:8 - -- The excellency of the knowledge of Christ - That superior light, information, and blessedness which come through the Gospel of Jesus Christ; justifi...
The excellency of the knowledge of Christ - That superior light, information, and blessedness which come through the Gospel of Jesus Christ; justification through his blood, sanctification by his Spirit, and eternal glory through his merits and intercession. These are the blessings held out to us by the Gospel, of which, and the law, Jesus Christ is the sum and substance
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Clarke: Phi 3:8 - -- I have suffered the loss of all things - Some translate δι ’ ον τα παντα εζημιωθην, for whom I have thrown away all thin...
I have suffered the loss of all things - Some translate
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Clarke: Phi 3:8 - -- And do count them but dung - The word σκυβαλα means the vilest dross or refuse of any thing; the worst excrement. The word shows how utterl...
And do count them but dung - The word
Calvin -> Phi 3:8
Calvin: Phi 3:8 - -- 8.Nay more, I reckon He means, that he continues to be of the same mind, because it often happens, that, transported with delight in new things, we f...
8.Nay more, I reckon He means, that he continues to be of the same mind, because it often happens, that, transported with delight in new things, we forget everything else, and afterwards we regret it. Hence Paul, having said that he renounced all hinderances, that he might gain Christ, now adds, that he continues to be of this mind.
For the sake of the excellency of the knowledge He extols the gospel in opposition to all such notions as tend to beguile us. For there are many things that have an appearance of excellence, but the knowledge of Christ surpasses to such a degree everything else by its sublimity 183, that, as compared with it, there is nothing that is not contemptible. Let us, therefore, learn from this, what value we ought to set upon the knowledge of Christ alone. As to his calling him his Lord, he does this to express the intensity of his feeling.
For whom I have suffered the loss of all things He expresses more than he had done previously; at least he expresses himself with greater distinctness. It is a similitude taken from seamen, who, when urged on by danger of shipwreck, throw everything overboard, that, the ship being lightened, they may reach the harbour in safety. Paul, then, was prepared to lose everything that he had, rather than be deprived of Christ.
But it is asked, whether it is necessary for us to renounce riches, and honors, and nobility of descent, and even external righteousness, that we may become partakers of Christ, (Heb 3:14,) for all these things are gifts of God, which, in themselves, are not to be despised? I answer, that the Apostle does not speak here so much of the things themselves, as of the quality of them. It is, indeed, true, that the kingdom of heaven is like a precious pearl, for the purchase of which no one should hesitate to sell everything that he has (Mat 13:46.) There is, however, a difference between the substance of things and the quality. Paul did not reckon it necessary to disown connection with his own tribe and with the race of Abraham, and make himself an alien, that he might become a Christian, but to renounce dependence upon his descent. It was not befitting, that from being chaste he should become unchaste; that from being sober, he should become intemperate; and that from being respectable and honorable, he should become dissolute; but that he should divest himself of a false estimate of his own righteousness, and treat it with contempt. We, too, when treating of the righteousness of faith, do not contend against the substance of works, but against that quality with which the sophists invest them, inasmuch as they contend that men are justified by them. Paul, therefore, divested himself — not of works, but of that mistaken confidence in works, with which he had been puffed up.
As to riches and honors, when we have divested ourselves of attachment to them, we will be prepared, also, to renounce the things themselves, whenever the Lord will require this from us, and so it ought to be. It is not expressly necessary that you be a poor man, in order that you may be Christian; but if it please the Lord that it should be so, you ought to be prepared to endure poverty. In fine, it is not lawful for Christians to have anything apart from Christ. I consider as apart from Christ everything that is a hinderance in the way of Christ alone being our ground of glorying, and having an entire sway over us.
And I count them but refuse Here he not merely by words, but also by realities, amplifies greatly what he had before stated. For those who cast their merchandise and other things into the sea, that they may escape in safety, do not, therefore, despise riches, but act as persons prepared rather to live in misery and want 184 , than to be drowned along with their riches. They part with them, indeed, but it is with regret and with a sigh; and when they have escaped, they bewail the loss of them. Paul, however, declares, on the other hand, that he had not merely abandoned everything that he formerly reckoned precious, but that they were like dung, offensive to him, or were disesteemed like things that are thrown awayin contempt. Chrysostom renders the word— straws. Grammarians, however, are of opinion, that
That I may gain Christ By this expression he intimates that we cannot gain Christ otherwise than by losing everything that we have. For he would have us rich by his grace alone: he would have him alone be our entire blessedness. Now, in what way we must suffer the loss of all things, has been already stated — in such a manner that nothing will turn us aside from confidence in Christ alone. But if Paul, with such innocence and integrity of life, did not hesitate to reckon his own righteousness to be loss and dung, what mean those Pharisees of the present day, who, while covered over with every kind of wickedness, do nevertheless feel no shame in extolling their own merits in opposition to Christ?
Defender: Phi 3:8 - -- "Excellency" means "higher authority." That is, the knowledge of Christ as Savior and Lord is higher than all the secular and religious knowledge Paul...
"Excellency" means "higher authority." That is, the knowledge of Christ as Savior and Lord is higher than all the secular and religious knowledge Paul had learned in his scholastic training as a Pharisee. Similarly, it is higher than any knowledge one could ever acquire from modern science or philosophy, or from any other discipline.
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Defender: Phi 3:8 - -- The Greek word skubalon basically means "refuse," either human waste or garbage in general.
The Greek word
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Defender: Phi 3:8 - -- "Win Christ" - that is, "be gain for Christ." We should not only seek to gain Christ and His salvation for ourselves, but we should also be spirituall...
"Win Christ" - that is, "be gain for Christ." We should not only seek to gain Christ and His salvation for ourselves, but we should also be spiritually profitable in His service."
TSK -> Phi 3:8
TSK: Phi 3:8 - -- doubtless : Num 14:30; Psa 126:6; Luk 11:20; 1Co 9:10; 1Jo 2:19
I count : Act 20:24; Rom 8:18
the excellency : Phi 3:10; Isa 53:11; Jer 9:23, Jer 9:24...
doubtless : Num 14:30; Psa 126:6; Luk 11:20; 1Co 9:10; 1Jo 2:19
the excellency : Phi 3:10; Isa 53:11; Jer 9:23, Jer 9:24; Mat 11:25-27, Mat 16:16, Mat 16:17; Luk 10:21, Luk 10:22; Joh 14:7, Joh 14:20, Joh 16:3, Joh 17:3, Joh 17:8; 1Co 2:2; 2Co 4:4, 2Co 4:6; Gal 1:16; Eph 1:17, Eph 1:18; Eph 3:8, Eph 3:9, Eph 3:18, Eph 3:19; Col 2:2, Col 2:3; 1Pe 2:7; 2Pe 1:3, 2Pe 3:18; 1Jo 5:20
my : Luk 1:43, Luk 20:42-44; Joh 20:13, Joh 20:28
for whom : Phi 3:7; Mat 19:27-29; 1Co 4:9-13; 2Co 11:23-27; 2Ti 4:6
but dung : 1Ki 14:10; 2Ki 9:37; Job 20:7; Mal 2:3
win : Mat 13:44-46; Heb 3:14; 1Jo 1:3
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Barnes -> Phi 3:8
Barnes: Phi 3:8 - -- Yea, doubtless, and I count all things but loss - Not only those things which he had just specified, and which he had himself possessed, he say...
Yea, doubtless, and I count all things but loss - Not only those things which he had just specified, and which he had himself possessed, he says he would be willing to renounce in order to obtain an interest in the Saviour, but everything which could be imagined. Were all the wealth and honor which could be conceived of his, he would be willing to renounce them in order that he might obtain the knowledge of the Redeemer. He would be a gainer who should sacrifice everything in order to win Christ. Paul had not only acted on this principle when he became a Christian, but had ever afterward continued to be ready to give up everything in order that he might obtain an interest in the Saviour. He uses here the same word -
For the excellency of the knowledge - A Hebrew expression to denote excellent knowledge. The idea is, that he held everything else to be worthless in comparison with that knowledge, and he was willing to sacrifice everything else in order to obtain it. On the value of this knowledge of the Saviour, see the notes at Eph 3:19.
For whom I have suffered the loss of all things - Paul, when he became a Christian, gave up his brilliant prospects in regard to this life, and everything indeed on which his heart had been placed. He abandoned the hope of honor and distinction; he sacrificed every prospect of gain or ease; and he gave up his dearest friends and separated himself from those whom he tenderly loved. He might have risen to the highest posts of honor in his native land, and the path which an ambitious young man desires was fully open before him. But all this had been cheerfully sacrificed in order that he might obtain an interest in the Saviour, and partake of the blessings of his religion. He has not, indeed, informed us of the exact extent of his loss in becoming a Christian. It is by no means improbable that he had been excommunicated by the Jews; and that he had been disowned by his own family.
And do count them but dung - The word used here -
Poole -> Phi 3:8
Poole: Phi 3:8 - -- Yea doubtless he very emphatically, in the Greek, expresseth his stronger resolution upon further deliberation.
And I count all things as he had re...
Yea doubtless he very emphatically, in the Greek, expresseth his stronger resolution upon further deliberation.
And I count all things as he had reckoned and rated when he was first wrought upon to entertain Christ, so at present he did not alter his judgment, in the valuation of any thing he had rejected; yea, he speaks universally, what he did but indefinitely, using the present tense with a discretive particle: he disesteemed, not only his Jewish privileges and exercises before, but his Christian after conversion, as of any worth to commend him to God, or as any matter to be rested on for his justification before God; showing he did not ascribe his being accepted to eternal life, unto his own works after he was renewed, and now had so many years served God in his apostolical ministry, performed such excellent works, planted so many churches, gained so many souls to Christ, passed through perils for the name of Christ. He remarkably puts in all, not only which he had before recited, but to all works as such whatsoever, yea, and to all whatsoever could be thought on besides Christ.
But loss whatever they be in themselves, they are but loss or damage, of no worth to me, as to any dependence on them for acceptance with God.
For the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord compared with the surpassing worth and excellency in the fiducial, experimental (as is plain from what follows) knowledge of Jesus Christ, in his person, offices, and benefits, wherein an eye of faith can discern transcendent mysteries, Isa 53:2 Joh 17:3 1Jo 5:20 1Ti 3:16 1Pe 1:12 ; to be adored by the sincere servants of so excellent a Lord, Mar 5:30,33 ; to have an interest in whom, and to enjoy whom, every thing besides is despicable.
For whom I have suffered the loss of all things for whom (he adds) he did not only account them loss, as Phi 3:7in his judgment and readiness to lose them, but he actually sustained the loss of them, Act 20:23 1Co 4:13 2Co 11:23 , &c.: as to any plea for his acceptance, he suffered them all to go in this case, which he could not do till God, of his rich and insuperable grace, wrought this resolution in him, by his Holy Spirit; then he willingly did it.
And do count them but dung yea, and upon a right stating of the accounts he reckoned he was no loser by the exchange, in that he did esteem them, in a just balance, comparing spiritual things with spiritual, 1Co 2:13 , in point of trust, those excellent things with an excellent Christ, to be no better than dung, as we with the Syriac and others translate the word; or dogs’ , meat, refuse cast to the dogs, with others; and might agree with the gust of those, Phi 3:2 , whom he calls dogs, Mat 15:26 Mar 7:27 . Those much conversant in Greek authors do criticise largely upon the word, which is acknowledged on all hands to import things, if not loathsome, yet vile and contemptible, as chaff, &c.; and so not absolutely, but in their respect, did Paul account all things in comparison of Christ, even our good works proceeding from a heart sanctified but in part; he doth not mean of the substance, but quality of the trust or merit placed in them; not in themselves, but in regard of confidence in them, as to pardon and acceptance with God: not in point of sanctification, but justification, the apostle is here speaking to. So to rely upon them would not only comparatively, but positively, be greatest loss, as keeping from Christ, who is the greatest gain, for which the loss of all besides was to be sustained.
That I may win Christ that he might gain him, and be assured of an interest in him, whom he had above described in his state of humiliation and exaltation, and enjoy communion with him, Mat 11:28 Luk 14:26,33 2Co 4:6 1Jo 5:12 ; of whom he would receive more, and for whom he would do more, aiming at the making of Christ himself his own, by some kind of propriety, 1Co 1:30 .
Gill -> Phi 3:8
Gill: Phi 3:8 - -- Yea, doubtless, and I count all things but loss,.... Not only the things before mentioned, but anything, and everything else but Christ, or that stoo...
Yea, doubtless, and I count all things but loss,.... Not only the things before mentioned, but anything, and everything else but Christ, or that stood in competition with him, or were short of him; as his natural and acquired parts; the whole compass of learning he had attained to; all that honour, credit, reputation, and popularity he was in for knowledge and devotion; all worldly substance, the comforts of life, and life itself; and all his righteousness since conversion, as well as before; of this no doubt could be made by those who knew him, his principles and his practices: and all this
for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: "by the knowledge of Christ" is not meant subjectively the knowledge that is in Christ, or which he has of others, either as God or man; but objectively, that knowledge which believers have of him, who know him not only in his person, as God over all, but as a Saviour and Redeemer, and as theirs; they know him in all his relations, and particularly as their Lord, not by creation only, but by redemption and grace, as the apostle did, putting an emphasis on these words, "my Lord"; thereby expressing his faith of interest in him, his great affection for him, and cheerful subjection to him. And this knowledge is not general, but special, spiritual, and saving; it is a knowledge of approbation of Christ above all others; a fiducial one, which has faith in him joined with it, and is both experimental and, practical, and, at least at times, appropriating; and though imperfect, it is progressive and capable of being increased, and will at last be brought to perfection. It is attained to, not by the light of nature, nor by the help of carnal reason, nor by the law of Moses, but by the Gospel of the grace of God, as a means; and the efficient cause of it is Father, Son, and Spirit; the Father reveals Christ in his saints; the Son gives them an understanding to know him; and the Spirit is a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him; and this knowledge is very excellent: a spiritual knowledge of Christ is more excellent than a general and notional one, or than a knowledge of Christ after the flesh; and the knowledge of Christ under the Gospel dispensation, though the same in nature, is more excellent than that which was under the legal dispensation, by promises, prophecies, and the ceremonial law, in degree, extensiveness, and clearness; but the most excellent knowledge of Christ is that of the saints in heaven; yea, even there is an excellency in what the saints have here on earth, and a superior one to all other knowledge, if the author and original of it is considered: it is not of ourselves, nor by the assistance of men; it is not in the book of nature, nor in the schools of the philosophers; it is not of earth, nor earthly, but it comes from afar, from above, from heaven, from God the Father of lights; it is a free grace gift, a distinguishing one, and is very comprehensive, unspeakable, and unchangeable: and as to the object of it, it is Christ, the chiefest among ten thousands; who made the heavens, earth, and seas, and all that in them are, the sun, moon, and stars, men and beasts, birds and fishes, fossils, minerals, vegetables, and everything in nature; and therefore the knowledge of him must be superior to the knowledge of everything else; and, which adds to its excellency, it makes Christ precious, engages faith and confidence in him, influences the life and conversation, humbles the soul, and creates in it true pleasure and satisfaction; when all other knowledge fills with self-love, pride, and vanity, and increases sorrow; whereas this is not only useful in life, but supports, as under afflictions, so in the views of death and eternity; through it grace is received now, and by it glory hereafter; for it is the beginning, earnest, and pledge of eternal life. Well may the believer count all things but loss for it, as the apostle did; who adds, for further confirmation of what he had asserted,
for whom I have suffered the loss of all things; he dropped all confidence in his carnal privileges, and civil, ceremonial, and moral righteousness, for Christ and his righteousness; he parted with all for this pearl of great price; he lost his good name, credit, and reputation among men, and suffered afflictions and persecutions in various shapes; he lost the comforts of life, being often in cold and nakedness, in hunger and thirst, and was ready to suffer the loss of life itself for professing and preaching Christ:
and do count them but dung; or dog's meat; see Phi 3:2; what is fit only to be cast to dogs, as the word signifies; and intends every thing that is base, mean, and worthless; as the faeces of men, the dregs and lees of liquor, the falling of fruit, chaff, stubble, the dross of metals, dung, and what not: so he esteemed his carnal descent; his form and sect of religion, and zeal in it; his ceremonial and moral righteousness before and after conversion; and everything of the creature, or what was his own, and but flesh; being of the same opinion with the church of old, who reckoned her righteousnesses, the best, and the whole of them, as "filthy rags". The apostle next expresses his end and views in this,
that I may win Christ; not get an interest in him, for this he had already, and he knew he had, and that he should never lose it; and besides, an interest in Christ is not a thing that begins in time, but commenced from all eternity; and is not gotten at all, not by good works, nor repentance, nor faith; for these, if right and genuine, are the fruits and effects of an interest in Christ, but is what is freely given. The apostle's meaning is, either that he might gain or acquire a larger knowledge of Christ; and he cared not what pains he took, what expenses he was at, nor what loss he sustained for what he esteemed the most excellent, and for which he had already suffered the loss of all things; and if he had had more to lose, he could willingly part with it for more of this knowledge; compare Phi 3:10; or his sense is, that he might gain by Christ, or that Christ might be gain to him, as he found him to be, and as he is to every believer; who by parting with all for Christ, gains much by him, as a justifying righteousness, acceptance with God, peace, pardon, life, grace, and glory.
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NET Notes -> Phi 3:8
NET Notes: Phi 3:8 The word here translated “dung” was often used in Greek as a vulgar term for fecal matter. As such it would most likely have had a certain...
Geneva Bible -> Phi 3:8
Geneva Bible: Phi 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count ( e ) all things [but] loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss ...
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TSK Synopsis -> Phi 3:1-21
TSK Synopsis: Phi 3:1-21 - --1 He warns them to beware of the false teachers of the circumcision;4 shewing that himself has greater cause than they to trust in the righteousness o...
Maclaren: Phi 3:4-8 - --The Loss Of All
Though I myself might have confidence even in the flesh: if any other man thinketh to have confidence in the flesh, I yet more: circu...
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Maclaren: Phi 3:8-9 - --The "Gain Of Christ"
That I may gain Christ, and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own, even that which is of the law, but that which...
MHCC -> Phi 3:1-11
MHCC: Phi 3:1-11 - --Sincere Christians rejoice in Christ Jesus. The prophet calls the false prophets dumb dogs, Isa 56:10; to which the apostle seems to refer. Dogs, for ...
Matthew Henry -> Phi 3:4-8
Matthew Henry: Phi 3:4-8 - -- The apostle here proposes himself for an example of trusting in Christ only, and not in his privileges as an Israelite. I. He shows what he had to b...
Barclay -> Phi 3:8-9
Barclay: Phi 3:8-9 - --Paul has just said that he came to the conclusion that all his Jewish privileges and attainments were nothing but a total loss. But, it might be arg...
Constable: Phi 1:27--4:10 - --III. Partnership in the gospel 1:27--4:9
Paul had been saying he hoped to be able to revisit Philippi and to min...
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Constable: Phi 3:1--4:2 - --2. Walking in steadfastness 3:1-4:1
Paul now turned to the second major quality that he introduc...
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