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Job’s Reply to Eliphaz
23:1 Then Job answered: 23:2 “Even today my complaint is still bitter; his hand is heavy despite my groaning. 23:3 O that I knew where I might find him, that I could come to his place of residence! 23:4 I would lay out my case before him and fill my mouth with arguments. 23:5 I would know with what words he would answer me, and understand what he would say to me. 23:6 Would he contend with me with great power? No, he would only pay attention to me. 23:7 There an upright person could present his case before him, and I would be delivered forever from my judge.
The Inaccessibility and Power of God
23:8 “If I go to the east, he is not there, and to the west, yet I do not perceive him. 23:9 In the north when he is at work, I do not see him; when he turns to the south, I see no trace of him. 23:10 But he knows the pathway that I take; if he tested me, I would come forth like gold. 23:11 My feet have followed his steps closely; I have kept to his way and have not turned aside.
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 · Job a man whose story is told in the book of Job,a man from the land of Uz in Edom


Dictionary Themes and Topics: WAY | SUN | SEAT | REASON; REASONABLE; REASONING | PROVE | PLEAD | ORDER | Northward | Left hand | Job | Hand | GROAN | GOLD | GOD, 2 | FORWARD; FORWARDNESS | FOOT | EAST | DECLINE | Complaint | BITTER; BITTERNESS | more
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Wesley: Job 23:2 - -- day - Even at this time, notwithstanding all your pretended consolations.

day - Even at this time, notwithstanding all your pretended consolations.

Wesley: Job 23:2 - -- The hand or stroke of God upon me.

The hand or stroke of God upon me.

Wesley: Job 23:2 - -- Doth exceed my complaints.

Doth exceed my complaints.

Wesley: Job 23:3 - -- I desire nothing more than his acquaintance and presence; but alas, he hides his face from me.

I desire nothing more than his acquaintance and presence; but alas, he hides his face from me.

Wesley: Job 23:3 - -- To his throne or judgment - seat to plead my cause before him.

To his throne or judgment - seat to plead my cause before him.

Wesley: Job 23:5 - -- If he should discover to me any secret sins, for which he contendeth with me, I would humble myself before him, and accept of the punishment of mine i...

If he should discover to me any secret sins, for which he contendeth with me, I would humble myself before him, and accept of the punishment of mine iniquity.

Wesley: Job 23:6 - -- He would not use his power against me, but for me; by enabling me to plead my cause, and giving sentence according to that clemency, which he uses tow...

He would not use his power against me, but for me; by enabling me to plead my cause, and giving sentence according to that clemency, which he uses towards his children.

Wesley: Job 23:7 - -- At that throne of grace, where God lays aside his majesty, and judges according to his wonted clemency.

At that throne of grace, where God lays aside his majesty, and judges according to his wonted clemency.

Wesley: Job 23:7 - -- Humbly propounding the grounds of their confidence.

Humbly propounding the grounds of their confidence.

Wesley: Job 23:7 - -- Upon such a fair and equal hearing.

Upon such a fair and equal hearing.

Wesley: Job 23:7 - -- From the damnatory sentence of God. This and some such expressions of Job cannot be excused from irreverence towards God, for which God afterwards rep...

From the damnatory sentence of God. This and some such expressions of Job cannot be excused from irreverence towards God, for which God afterwards reproves him, and Job abhorreth himself.

Wesley: Job 23:8 - -- As a judge to hear and determine my causes, otherwise he knew God was essentially present in all places.

As a judge to hear and determine my causes, otherwise he knew God was essentially present in all places.

Wesley: Job 23:10 - -- Which comes out of the furnace pure from all dross.

Which comes out of the furnace pure from all dross.

Wesley: Job 23:11 - -- The steps or paths which God hath appointed men to walk in.

The steps or paths which God hath appointed men to walk in.

JFB: Job 23:2 - -- Implying, perhaps, that the debate was carried on through more days than one (see Introduction).

Implying, perhaps, that the debate was carried on through more days than one (see Introduction).

JFB: Job 23:2 - -- (Job 7:11; Job 10:1).

JFB: Job 23:2 - -- The hand of God on me (Margin, Job 19:21; Psa 32:4).

The hand of God on me (Margin, Job 19:21; Psa 32:4).

JFB: Job 23:2 - -- Is so heavy that I cannot relieve myself adequately by groaning.

Is so heavy that I cannot relieve myself adequately by groaning.

JFB: Job 23:3 - -- The same wish as in Job 13:3 (compare Heb 10:19-22).

The same wish as in Job 13:3 (compare Heb 10:19-22).

JFB: Job 23:3 - -- The idea in the Hebrew is a well-prepared throne (Psa 9:7).

The idea in the Hebrew is a well-prepared throne (Psa 9:7).

JFB: Job 23:4 - -- State methodically (Job 13:18; Isa 43:26).

State methodically (Job 13:18; Isa 43:26).

JFB: Job 23:4 - -- I would have abundance of arguments to adduce.

I would have abundance of arguments to adduce.

JFB: Job 23:5 - -- Emphatic: it little matters what man may say of me, if only I know what God judges of me.

Emphatic: it little matters what man may say of me, if only I know what God judges of me.

JFB: Job 23:6 - -- An objection suggests itself, while he utters the wish (Job 23:5). Do I hereby wish that He should plead against me with His omnipotence? Far from it!...

An objection suggests itself, while he utters the wish (Job 23:5). Do I hereby wish that He should plead against me with His omnipotence? Far from it! (Job 9:19, Job 9:34; Job 13:21; Job 30:18).

JFB: Job 23:6 - -- So as to prevail with Him: as in Jacob's case (Hos 12:3-4). UMBREIT and MAURER better translate as in Job 4:20 (I only wish that He) "would attend to ...

So as to prevail with Him: as in Jacob's case (Hos 12:3-4). UMBREIT and MAURER better translate as in Job 4:20 (I only wish that He) "would attend to me," that is, give me a patient hearing as an ordinary judge, not using His omnipotence, but only His divine knowledge of my innocence.

JFB: Job 23:7 - -- Rather, "Then": if God would "attend" to me (Job 23:6).

Rather, "Then": if God would "attend" to me (Job 23:6).

JFB: Job 23:7 - -- That is, the result of my dispute would be, He would acknowledge me as righteous.

That is, the result of my dispute would be, He would acknowledge me as righteous.

JFB: Job 23:7 - -- From suspicion of guilt on the part of my Judge.

From suspicion of guilt on the part of my Judge.

JFB: Job 23:8 - -- But I wish in vain. For "behold," &c.

But I wish in vain. For "behold," &c.

JFB: Job 23:8 - -- Rather, "to the east--to the west." The Hebrew geographers faced the east, that is, sunrise: not the north, as we do. So "before" means east: "behind,...

Rather, "to the east--to the west." The Hebrew geographers faced the east, that is, sunrise: not the north, as we do. So "before" means east: "behind," west (so the Hindus). Para, "before"--east: Apara, "behind"--west: Daschina, "the right hand"--south: Bama, "left"--north. A similar reference to sunrise appears in the name Asia, "sunrise," Europe, "sunset"; pure Babylonian names, as RAWLINSON shows.

JFB: Job 23:9 - -- Rather, "To the north."

Rather, "To the north."

JFB: Job 23:9 - -- God's glorious works are especially seen towards the north region of the sky by one in the northern hemisphere. The antithesis is between God working ...

God's glorious works are especially seen towards the north region of the sky by one in the northern hemisphere. The antithesis is between God working and yet not being beheld: as in Job 9:11, between "He goeth by," and "I see Him not." If the Hebrew bears it, the parallelism to the second clause is better suited by translating, as UMBREIT, "doth hide himself"; but then the antithesis to "behold" would be lost.

JFB: Job 23:9 - -- "in the south."

"in the south."

JFB: Job 23:9 - -- Appropriately, of the unexplored south, then regarded as uninhabitable because of its heat (see Job 34:29).

Appropriately, of the unexplored south, then regarded as uninhabitable because of its heat (see Job 34:29).

JFB: Job 23:10 - -- Correcting himself for the wish that his cause should be known before God. The omniscient One already knoweth the way in me (my inward principles: His...

Correcting himself for the wish that his cause should be known before God. The omniscient One already knoweth the way in me (my inward principles: His outward way or course of acts is mentioned in Job 23:11. So in me, Job 4:21); though for some inscrutable cause He as yet hides Himself (Job 23:8-9).

JFB: Job 23:10 - -- Let Him only but try my cause, I shall, &c.

Let Him only but try my cause, I shall, &c.

JFB: Job 23:11 - -- Fast by His steps. The law is in Old Testament poetry regarded as a way, God going before us as our guide, in whose footsteps we must tread (Psa 17:5)...

Fast by His steps. The law is in Old Testament poetry regarded as a way, God going before us as our guide, in whose footsteps we must tread (Psa 17:5).

JFB: Job 23:11 - -- (Psa 125:5).

Clarke: Job 23:2 - -- Even to-day is my complaint bitter - Job goes on to maintain his own innocence, and shows that he has derived neither conviction nor consolation fro...

Even to-day is my complaint bitter - Job goes on to maintain his own innocence, and shows that he has derived neither conviction nor consolation from the discourses of his friends. He grants that his complaint is bitter; but states that, loud as it may be, the affliction which he endures is heavier than his complaints are loud. Mr. Good translates: "And still is my complaint rebellion?"Do ye construe my lamentations over my unparalleled sufferings as rebellion against God? This, in fact, they had done from the beginning: and the original will justify the version of Mr. Good; for מרי meri , which we translate bitter, may be derived from מרה marah , "he rebelled."

Clarke: Job 23:3 - -- O that I knew where I might find him! - This and the following verse may be read thus: "Who will give me the knowledge of God, that I may find him o...

O that I knew where I might find him! - This and the following verse may be read thus: "Who will give me the knowledge of God, that I may find him out? I would come to his establishment; (the place or way in which he has promised to communicate himself); I would exhibit, in detail, my judgment (the cause I wish to be tried) before his face; and my mouth would I fill with convincing or decisive arguments;"arguments drawn from his common method of saving sinners, which I should prove applied fully to my case. Hence the confidence with which he speaks, Job 23:6.

Clarke: Job 23:5 - -- I would know the words which he would answer me - He would speak nothing but what was true, decree nothing that was not righteous, nor utter any thi...

I would know the words which he would answer me - He would speak nothing but what was true, decree nothing that was not righteous, nor utter any thing that I could not comprehend.

Clarke: Job 23:6 - -- Will he plead against me - He would not exhibit his majesty and his sovereign authority to strike me dumb, or so overawe me that I could not speak i...

Will he plead against me - He would not exhibit his majesty and his sovereign authority to strike me dumb, or so overawe me that I could not speak in my own vindication

Clarke: Job 23:6 - -- No; but he would put strength in me - On the contrary, he would treat me with tenderness, he would rectify my mistakes, he would show me what was in...

No; but he would put strength in me - On the contrary, he would treat me with tenderness, he would rectify my mistakes, he would show me what was in my favor, and would temper the rigid demands of justice by the mild interpretations of equity; and where law could not clear me, mercy would conduct all to the most favorable issue.

Clarke: Job 23:7 - -- There the righteous might dispute with him - נוכח nochach , might argue or plead. To dispute with God sounds very harsh

There the righteous might dispute with him - נוכח nochach , might argue or plead. To dispute with God sounds very harsh

Clarke: Job 23:7 - -- So should I be delivered for ever - Mr. Good translates: "And triumphantly should I escape from my condemnation."The Hebrew word לנצח lanetsach...

So should I be delivered for ever - Mr. Good translates: "And triumphantly should I escape from my condemnation."The Hebrew word לנצח lanetsach may as well be translated to victory as for ever: and in this sense the Vulgate understood the words: Proponat aequitatem contra me; et perveniat ad victoriam judicium meum. "He would set up equity against me; and would lead on my cause to victory."Coverdale renders thus: - But let hym give me like power to go to lawe, then am I sure to wynne my matter. Nothing less than the fullest conviction of his own innocence could have led Job to express himself thus to the Judge of quick and dead!

Clarke: Job 23:8 - -- Behold, I go forward - These two verses paint in vivid colors the distress and anxiety of a soul in search of the favor of God. No means are left un...

Behold, I go forward - These two verses paint in vivid colors the distress and anxiety of a soul in search of the favor of God. No means are left untried, no place unexplored, in order to find the object of his research. This is a true description of the conduct of a genuine penitent.

Clarke: Job 23:9 - -- On the left hand, where he doth work - In these two verses Job mentions the four cardinal points of the heavens: the East, by the word קדם kedem...

On the left hand, where he doth work - In these two verses Job mentions the four cardinal points of the heavens: the East, by the word קדם kedem , which signifies before; the West, by אחור achor , which signifies after, or the back part; the North, by שמאל semol , which signifies the left; and the South, by ימין yamin , which signifies the right. Such is the situation of the world to a man who faces the east; see Gen 13:9, Gen 13:11; Gen 28:14. And from this it appears that the Hebrews, Idumeans, and Arabs had the same ideas of these points of the heavens. It is worthy of remark that Job says, He hideth himself on the right hand, (the south), that I cannot see him: for in fact, the southern point of heaven is not visible in Idumea, where Job was. Hence it comes that when he spake before, Job 9:9, of the constellations of the antarctic pole, he terms them the hidden chambers of the south; i.e., those compartments of the celestial concave that never appeared above the horizon in that place - See Calmet

Mr. Good translates these verses as follows: -

Behold! I go forward, and he is not there

And backward, but I cannot perceive him

On the left hand I feel for him, but trace him not

He enshroudeth the right hand, and I cannot see him

The simple rendering of Coverdale is nervous and correct: -

For though I go before, I fynde hym not

Yf I come behynde, I can get no knowledge of him

Yf I go on the left syde to pondre his workes

I cannot atteyne unto them

Agayne, yf I go on the right syde, he hydeth himself

That I cannot se him.

Clarke: Job 23:10 - -- But he knoweth the way that I take - He approves of my conduct; my ways please him. He tries me: but, like gold, I shall lose nothing in the fire; I...

But he knoweth the way that I take - He approves of my conduct; my ways please him. He tries me: but, like gold, I shall lose nothing in the fire; I shall come forth more pure and luminous. If that which is reputed to be gold is exposed to the action of a strong fire, if it be genuine, it will lose nothing of its quality, nor of its weight. If it went into the fire gold, it will come out gold; the strongest fire will neither alter nor destroy it. So Job: he went into this furnace of affliction an innocent, righteous man; he came out the same. His character lost nothing of its value, nothing of its lustre.

Clarke: Job 23:11 - -- My foot hath held his steps, his way have I kept - I have carefully marked his providential dealings; and in his way - his pure and undefiled religi...

My foot hath held his steps, his way have I kept - I have carefully marked his providential dealings; and in his way - his pure and undefiled religion - have I walked. I have not only been generally but particularly religious: I have attended carefully to the weightier matters of the law, and have not forgotten its slightest injunctions

Coverdale is curious: - Nevertheles my fete kepe his path, his hye strete have I holden, and not gone out of it. The hye strete is highway, the causeway, or raised road; formed, as they anciently were, by stones in the manner of pavement. It has its name from the Latin strata , paved, via being understood: via lapidibus strata, "a way paved with stones:"hence street, a raised road or pavement either in town or country. And hence the four grand Roman or British roads which intersected this kingdom: viz. Watling street, Icknild or Ricknild street, Ermin street, and Fosse street. Some say these streets or roads were made by Bellinus, a British king. Fosse street began in Cornwall, passed through Devonshire, Somersetshire, and along by Titbury upon Toteswould, beside Coventry, unto Leicester; and thence by the wide plains to Newark and to Lincoln, where it ends. Watling street begins at Dover, passes through the middle of Kent, over the Thames by London, running near Westminster, and thence to St. Alban’ s, Dunstable, Stratford, Towcester, Weden, Lilbourn, Atherston, Wreaken by Severn, Worcester, Stratton, through Wales unto Cardigan, and on to the Irish sea. Ermin, or Erminage street, running from St. David’ s in Wales, to Southampton. Ricknild, or Icknild street, running by Worcester, Wycomb, Birmingham, Lichfield, Derby, Chesterfield, and by York, into Tynemouth. See Camden, Holinshed, and Minshieu.

Defender: Job 23:3 - -- This poignant cry is bound to be answered eventually, even though it seems long delayed, for God "is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him" (Heb...

This poignant cry is bound to be answered eventually, even though it seems long delayed, for God "is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him" (Heb 11:6)."

Defender: Job 23:10 - -- Job's faith is still strong and, by this time, he is beginning to sense that his sufferings somehow are being used by God as a test of his faith."

Job's faith is still strong and, by this time, he is beginning to sense that his sufferings somehow are being used by God as a test of his faith."

TSK: Job 23:2 - -- my complaint : Job 6:2, Job 10:1; Lam 3:19, Lam 3:20; Psa 77:2-9 stroke : Heb. hand heavier : Job 11:6

my complaint : Job 6:2, Job 10:1; Lam 3:19, Lam 3:20; Psa 77:2-9

stroke : Heb. hand

heavier : Job 11:6

TSK: Job 23:3 - -- Oh that : Job 13:3, Job 16:21, Job 40:1-5; Isa 26:8; Jer 14:7 where : Isa 55:6, Isa 55:7; 2Co 5:19, 2Co 5:20; Heb 4:6 that I might : Job 31:35-37

TSK: Job 23:4 - -- order : Job 13:18, Job 37:19; Psa 43:1; Isa 43:26 fill my mouth : Gen 18:25-32, Gen 32:12; Exo 32:12, Exo 32:13; Num 14:13-19; Jos 7:8, Jos 7:9; Psa 2...

TSK: Job 23:5 - -- know : Job 10:2, Job 13:22, Job 13:23, Job 42:2-6; 1Co 4:3, 1Co 4:4

TSK: Job 23:6 - -- plead : Job 9:19, Job 9:33, Job 9:34, Job 13:21; Isa 27:4, Isa 27:8; Eze 20:33, Eze 20:35 but he would : Psa 138:3; 2Co 12:9, 2Co 12:10

TSK: Job 23:7 - -- There : Isa 1:18; Jer 3:5, Jer 12:1 so should : Job 9:15; Rom 3:19-22, Rom 8:1, Rom 8:33, Rom 8:34

TSK: Job 23:8 - -- Job 9:11; Psa 10:1, Psa 13:1-3; Isa 45:15; 1Ti 6:16

TSK: Job 23:9 - -- he hideth himself : Psa 89:46; Isa 8:17

he hideth himself : Psa 89:46; Isa 8:17

TSK: Job 23:10 - -- he knoweth : Gen 18:19; 2Ki 20:3; Psa 1:6, Psa 139:1-3; Joh 21:17; 2Ti 2:19 the way that I take : Heb. the way that is with me he hath : Job 1:11, Job...

he knoweth : Gen 18:19; 2Ki 20:3; Psa 1:6, Psa 139:1-3; Joh 21:17; 2Ti 2:19

the way that I take : Heb. the way that is with me

he hath : Job 1:11, Job 1:12, Job 2:5, Job 2:6; Deu 8:2; Psa 17:3, Psa 66:10; Pro 17:3; Zec 13:9; Mal 3:2, Mal 3:3; Heb 11:17; Jam 1:2-4, Jam 1:12; 1Pe 1:7

I shall : Job 42:5-8

TSK: Job 23:11 - -- My foot : 1Sa 12:2-5; Psa 18:20-24, Psa 44:18; Act 20:18, Act 20:19, Act 20:33, Act 20:34; 2Co 1:12; 1Th 2:10 his way : Job 17:9; Psa 36:3, Psa 125:5;...

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Job 23:2 - -- Even to-day - At the present time. I am not relieved. You afford me no consolation. All that you say only aggravates my woes. My complaint...

Even to-day - At the present time. I am not relieved. You afford me no consolation. All that you say only aggravates my woes.

My complaint - See the notes at Job 21:3.

Bitter - Sad, melancholy, distressing. The meaning is, not that he made bitter complaints in the sense which those words would naturally convey, or that he meant to find fault with God, but that his case was a hard one. His friends furnished him no relief, and he had in vain endeavored to bring his cause before God. This is now, as he proceeds to state, the principal cause of his difficulty. He knows not where to find God; he cannot get his cause before him.

My stroke - Margin, as in Hebrew "hand;"that is, the hand that is upon me, or the calamity that is inflicted upon me. The hand is represented as the instrument of inflicting punishment, or causing affliction; see the notes at Job 19:21.

Heavier than my groaning - My sighs bear no proportion to my sufferings. They are no adequate expression of my woes. If you think I complain; if I am heard to groan, yet the sufferings which I endure are far beyond what these would secm to indicate. Sighs and groans are not improper. They are prompted by nature, and they furnish "some"relief to a sufferer. But they should not be:

(1) with a spirit of murmuring or complaining;

(2) they should not be beyond what our sufferings demand, or the proper expression of our sufferings. They should not be such as to lead others to suppose we suffer more than we actually do.

(3) they should - when they are extorted from us by the severity of suffering - lead us go look to that world where no groan will ever be heard.

Barnes: Job 23:3 - -- Oh that I knew where I might find him! - Where I might find "God."He had often expressed a wish to bring his cause directly before God, and to ...

Oh that I knew where I might find him! - Where I might find "God."He had often expressed a wish to bring his cause directly before God, and to be permitted to plead his cause there; see Job 13:3, note; Job 13:20, notes. But this he had not yet been able to do. The argument had been with his three friends, and he saw that there was no use in attempting further to convince them. If he could get the cause before God, and be allowed go plead it there, he felt assured that justice would be done him. But he had not been able to do this. God had not come forth in any visible and public manner as he wished, so that the cause could be fairly tried before such a tribunal, and he was in darkness. The "language"used here will express the condition of a pious man in the times of spiritual darkness. Hc cannot find God. He has no near access as he once had to him. In such a state he anxiously seeks to find God, but he cannot. There is no light and no comfort to his soul. This language may further describe the state of one who is conscious of uprightness, and who is exposed to the suspicion or the unkind remarks of the world. His character is attacked; his motives are impugned; his designs are suspected, and no one is disposed to do him justice. In such a state, he feels that "God"alone will do him justice. "He"knows the sincerity of his heart, and he can safely commit his cause to him. It is always the privilege of the calumniated and the slandered to make an appeal to the divine tribunal, and to feel that whatever injustice our fellow-men may be disposed to do us, there is One who will never do a wrong.

That I might come even to his seat - To his throne, or tribunal. Job wished to carry the cause directly before him. Probably he desired some manifestation of God - such as he was afterward favored with - when God would declare his judgment on the whole matter of the controversy.

Barnes: Job 23:4 - -- I would order my cause before him - Compare the notes at Isa 43:26. That is, I would arrange my arguments, or plead my cause, as one does in a ...

I would order my cause before him - Compare the notes at Isa 43:26. That is, I would arrange my arguments, or plead my cause, as one does in a court of justice. I would suggest the considerations which would show that I am not guilty in the sense charged by my friends, and that notwithstanding my calamities, I am the real friend of God.

And fill my mouth with arguments - Probably he means that he would appeal to the evidence furnished by a life of benevolence and justice, that he was not a hypocrite or a man of distinguished wickedness, as his friends maintained.

Barnes: Job 23:5 - -- I would know the words which he would answer me - That is, I wish to understand what would be "his"decision in the case - and what would be his...

I would know the words which he would answer me - That is, I wish to understand what would be "his"decision in the case - and what would be his judgment in regard to me. That was of infinitely more importance than any opinion which "man"could form, and Job was anxious to have the matter decided by a tribunal which could not err. Why should "we"not desire to know exactly what God thinks of us, and what estimate he has formed of our character? There is no information so valuable to us as that would be; for on "his"estimate hangs our eternal doom, and yet there is nothing which people more instinctively dread than to know what God thinks of their character. It would be well for each one to ask himself, "Why is it so?"

Barnes: Job 23:6 - -- Will he plead against me with his great power? - " Will he make use of his mere power to overwhelm me and confound me? Will he take advantage of...

Will he plead against me with his great power? - " Will he make use of his mere power to overwhelm me and confound me? Will he take advantage of omnipotence to triumph over me, instead of argument and justice? No: he will not do it. The discussion would be fair. He would hear what I have to say, and would decide according to truth. Though he is Almighty, yet he would not take advantage of that to prostrate and confound me."When Job Job 13:3 wished to carry the cause directly before God, he asked of Him two conditions only. One was, that he would take off his hand from him, or remove his afflictions for a time, that he might be able to manage his own cause; and the other was, that He would not take advantage of his power to overwhelm him in the debate, and prevent his making a fair statement of his case; see the notes at Job 13:20-21. He here expresses his firm conviction that his wish in this respect would be granted. He would listen, says he, to what; I have to say in my defense as if I were an equal.

No; but he would put strength in me - The word "strength"is not improperly supplied by our translators. It means that he would enable him to make a fair presentation of his cause. So far from taking advantage of his mere "power"to crush him, and thus obtain an ascendency in the argument, he would rather "strengthen"him, that he might be able to make his case as strong as possible. He would rather aid him, though presenting his own cause in the controversy, than seek to weaken his arguments, or so to awe him by his dread majesty as to prevent his making the case as strong as it might be. This indicates remarkable confidence in God.

Barnes: Job 23:7 - -- There the righteous might dispute with him - One who is conscious of his integrity might carry his cause there, with the assurance that he woul...

There the righteous might dispute with him - One who is conscious of his integrity might carry his cause there, with the assurance that he would be heard, and that justice would be done him. There can be no doubt that Job here refers to himself, though. he speaks in the third person, and advances this as a general proposition.

So shall I be delivered forever from my judge - From him who would judge or condemn me ( משׁפטי mı̂shâphaṭı̂y ). He does not here refer to "God,"as if he would be delivered from him, but to anyone who would attempt to judge and condemn him, as his friends had done. The meaning is, that having, as he confidently expected he would, obtained the verdict of God in his favor, he would be ever after free from condemnation. The decision would be final. There was no higher tribunal, and no one would dare to condemn him afterward. This shows his consciousness of integrity. It may be applied to ourselves - to all. If we can obtain, at the last day, when our cause shall be brought before God, the divine verdict in our favor, it will settle the matter forever. No one, after that, will condemn us; never again shall our character or conduct be put on trial. The divine decision of that day will settle the question to all eternity. How momentous, then, is it that we should so live as to be acquitted in that day, and to have "an eternal sentence"in our favour!

Barnes: Job 23:8 - -- Behold, I go forward - The meaning of these verses is, I go in all directions, but I cannot find God. I am excluded from the trial which I seek...

Behold, I go forward - The meaning of these verses is, I go in all directions, but I cannot find God. I am excluded from the trial which I seek, and I cannot bring my cause to his throne. Job expresses his earnest desire to see some visible manifestation of the Deity, and to be permitted to argue his cause in his presence. But he says he sought this in vain. He looked to all points of the compass where he might rationally expect to find God, but all in vain. The terms here used refer to the points of the compass, and should have been so rendered. The Oriental geographers considered themselves as facing the East, instead of the North, as we do. Of course, the West was behind them, the South on the right hand, and on the left the North. This was a more natural position than ours, as day begins in the East, and it is natural to turn the face in that direction. There is no reason why our maps should be made so as to require us to face the "North,"except that such is the custom.

The Hebrew custom, in this respect, is found also in the notices of geography in other nations. The same thing prevails among the Hindoos. Among them, Para, or Purra, signifying "before,"denotes the East; Apara and Paschima, meaning "behind,"the West; Dacshina, or "the right hand,"the South; and Bama, or "the left hand,"the North; see Wilford’ s Inquiry respecting the Holy Isles in the West, Asiatic Researches, vol. viii. p. 275. The same thing occurred among the ancient Irish; see an Essay on the Antiquity of the Irish language, by an unknown author, Dublin, 1772; compare on this subject, Rosenmuller’ s Alterthumskunde i. s. 136-144. The same custom prevailed among the Mongols. "Gesenius."On the notices of the science of geography exhibited in the book of Job, compare Introduction, Section 8. The phrase, therefore, "Behold, I go forward,"means, "I go to the East. I look toward the rising of the sun. I see there the most wonderful of the works of the Creator in the glories of the sun, and I go toward it in hopes of finding there some manifestation of God. But I find him not, and, disappointed, I turn to other directions."Most of the ancient versions render this the East. Thus, the Vulgate, "Si ad Orientem iero." The Chaldee למדינא , "to the sun-rising."

But he is not there - There is no manifestation of God, no coming forth to meet me, and to hear my cause.

And backward - ( ואחור ve 'âchôr ). To the West - for this was "behind"the individual when he stood looking to the East. Sometimes the West is denoted by this term "behind"( אחור 'âchôr ), and sometimes by "the sea"( ים yâm ), because the Mediterranean was at the West of Palestine and Arabia; see the notes at Isa 9:12; compare Exo 10:19; Exo 27:13; Exo 38:12; Gen 28:14.

But I cannot perceive him - The meaning is, "Disappointed in the East, the region of the rising sun, I turn with longing to the West, the region of his setting, and hope, as his last beams fade from the view, that I shall be permitted to behold some ray that shall reveal God to my soul. Before the night settles down upon the world, emblem of the darkness in my soul, I would look upon the last lingering ray, and hope that in that I may see God. In that vast region of the West, illuminated by the setting sun, I would hope somewhere to find him; but I am disappointed there. The sun withdraws his beams, and darkness steals on, and the world, like my soul, is enveloped in gloom. I can see no indications of the presence of God coming forth to give me an opportunity to argue my cause before him."

Barnes: Job 23:9 - -- On the left hand - That is, in the North - at the left hand when the face was turned to the East. So the Chaldee, בצפונא - "on the Nort...

On the left hand - That is, in the North - at the left hand when the face was turned to the East. So the Chaldee, בצפונא - "on the North."The other versions, the Vulgate, the Septuagint, the Syriac, Castellio, Luther, etc., render it "on the left hand."The common term among the Hebrews for the "North"is צפון tsâphôn - (from צפן tsâphan - "to hide,"or "conceal"), meaning the hidden, concealed, or dark region, since the ancients regarded the North as the seat of gloom and darkness, (Homer, Odyssey ix. 25ff), while they supposed the South to be illuminated by the sun. "Gesenius."Frequently, however, as here, the word "left,"or "left hand,"is used. The region of the North is intended.

Where he doth work - Where there are such wonderful manifestations of his majesty and glory. May Job here not refer to the "Aurora Borealis,"the remarkable display of the power of God which is seen in those regions? May he not have felt that there was some special reason why he might hope to meet with God in that quarter, or to see him manifest himself amidst the brilliant lights that play along the sky, as if to precede or accompany him? And when he had looked to the splendor of the rising sun, and the glory of his setting, in vain, was it not natural to turn his eye to the next remarkable manifestation, as he supposed, of God, in the glories of the Northern lights, and to expect to find him there? There is reason to think that the ancient Chaldeans, and other pagans, regarded the regions of the North, illuminated with these celestial splendors, as the special residence of the gods (see the notes at Isa 14:13), and it seems probable that Job may have had allusion to some such prevailing opinion.

But I cannot behold him - I can see the exhibition of remarkable splendor, but still "God"is unseen. He does not come amidst those glories to give me an opportunity to carry my cause before him. The meaning, then, of this is, "Disappointed in the East and the West. I turn to the North. There I have been accustomed to witness extraordinary manifestations of his magnificence and glory. There beautiful constellations circle the pole. There the Aurora plays, and seems to be the manifestation of the glory of God. Next to the glory of the rising and setting sun, I turn to those brilliant lights, to see if there I may not find my God, but in vain. Those lights are cold and chilly, and reveal no God to my soul. Disappointed, then I turn to the last point, the South, to see if I can find him there."

He hideth himself on the right hand - On the South. The South was to the ancients an unknown region. The deserts of Arabia, indeed, stretched away in that region, and they were partially known, and they had some knowledge that the sea was beyond. But they regarded the regions farther to the South, if there was land there, as wholly impassable and uninhabitable on account of the heat. The knowledge of geography was slowly acquired, and, of course, it is impossible to tell what were the views which prevailed on the subject in the time of Job. That there was little accuracy of information about remote countries must be regarded as an indisputable fact; and, probably, they had little conception of distant parts of the earth, except that formed by conjecture. Interesting details of the views of the ancients, on this subject, may be found in the Encyclopedia of Geography, vol. i. pp. 10-68; compare particularly the notes at Job 26:10.

The earth was regarded as encompassed with waters, and the distant southern regions, on account of the impossibility of passing through the heat of the torrid zone, were supposed to be inaccessible. To those hidden and unknown realms, Job says he now turned, when he had in vain looked to each other quarter of the heavens, to see if he could find some manifestation of God. Yet he looked to that quarter equally in vain. God "hid"or "concealed"himself in those inaccessible regions so that he could not approach him. The meaning is, "I am also disappointed here. He hides himself in that distant land. In the burning and impassable wastes which stretch themselves to an unknown extent there, I cannot find him. The feet of mortals cannot traverse those burning plains, and there I cannot approach him. To whatever point of the compass I turn, I am left in equal darkness."What a striking description is this of the darkness that sometimes comes over the Christian’ s soul, prompting to the language, "O that I knew where I might find him! That I could come to his throne!"

Barnes: Job 23:10 - -- But he knoweth the way that I take - Margin, "is with me."That is, "I have the utmost confidence in him. Though I cannot see him, yet he sees m...

But he knoweth the way that I take - Margin, "is with me."That is, "I have the utmost confidence in him. Though I cannot see him, yet he sees me, and he knows my integrity; and whatever people may say, or however they may misunderstand my character, yet he is acquainted with me, and I have the fullest confidence that he will do me justice."

When he hath tried me - When he has subjected me to all the tests of character which he shall choose to apply.

I shall come forth as gold - As gold that is tried in the crucible, and that comes forth the more pure the intenser is the heat. The application of fire to it serves to separate every particle of impurity or alloy, and leaves only the pure metal. So it is with trials applied to the friend of God; and we may remark

(1) That all real piety will bear "any"test that may be applied to it, as gold will bear any degree of heat without being injured or destroyed.

(2) That the effect of all trials is to purify piety, and make it more bright and valuable, as is the effect of applying intense heat to gold.

(3) There is often much alloy in the piety of a Christian, as there is in gold, that needs to be removed by the fiery trial of affliction. Nothing else will remove it but trial, as nothing will be so effectual a purifier of gold as intense heat.

(4) A true Christian should not dread trial. It will not hurt him. He will be the more valuable for his trials, as gold is for the application of heat. There is no danger of destroying true piety. It will live in the flames, and will survive the raging heat that shall yet consume the world.

Barnes: Job 23:11 - -- My foot hath held his steps - Roberts, in his Oriental Illustrations, and the Editor of the Pictorial Bible, suppose that there is an allusion ...

My foot hath held his steps - Roberts, in his Oriental Illustrations, and the Editor of the Pictorial Bible, suppose that there is an allusion here to the active, grasping power which the Orientals have in their feet and toes. By constant usage they accustom themselves to make use of them in holding things in a manner which to us seems almost incredible, and they make the toes perform almost the work of fingers. We bind ours fast from early childhood in our close shoes, and they become useless except for the purpose of walking. But the Orientals use theirs differently. They seize upon an object with their toes, and hold it fast. If in walking along they see anything on the ground which they desire to pick up, instead of stooping as we would, they seize it with their toes, and lift it up. Alypulle, a Kandian chief, was about to be beheaded. When he arrived at the place of execution, he looked round for some object on which to seize, and saw a small shrub, and seized it with his toes, and held it fast in order to be firm while the executioner did his office. "Roberts."So an Arab in treading firmly, or in taking a determined stand, seems to lay hold of, to grasp the ground with his toes, giving a fixedness of position inconceivable to those whose feet are cramped by the use of tight shoes. This may be the meaning here, that Job had fixed himself firmly in the footsteps of God, and had adhered tenaciously to him; or, as it is rendered by Dr. Good,"In his steps will I rivet my feet."

And not declined - Turned aside.

Poole: Job 23:2 - -- i.e. Even at this time, notwithstanding all your promises and pretended consolations, I find no ease or satisfaction in all your discourses; and the...

i.e. Even at this time, notwithstanding all your promises and pretended consolations, I find no ease or satisfaction in all your discourses; and therefore in this and the following chapters Job seldom applies his discourse to his friends, but only addresseth his speech to God, or bewaileth himself.

Is my complaint bitter i.e. I do bitterly complain, and have just cause to do so. But this clause is and may be otherwise rendered, Even still (Heb. at this day ) is my complaint called or accounted by you rebellion or bitterness , or the rage of an exasperated mind? Do you still pass such harsh censures upon me after all my declarations and solemn protestations of my innocency?

My stroke Heb. my hand , passively, i.e. the hand or stroke of God upon me, as the same phrase is used, Psa 77:2 ; and mine arrow , Job 34:6 .

Is heavier than my groaning i.e. doth exceed all my complaints and expressions; so far are you mistaken, that think I complain more than I have cause. Some render the words thus, my hands are heavy (i.e. feeble and hanging down, as the phrase is, Heb 12:12 . My strength and spirit faileth) because of my groaning.

Poole: Job 23:3 - -- Where I might find him to wit, God, as his friends well knew, and the thing itself showeth. Thou biddest me acquaint myself with him , Job 22:21 . I...

Where I might find him to wit, God, as his friends well knew, and the thing itself showeth. Thou biddest me acquaint myself with him , Job 22:21 . I desire nothing more than his acquaintance and presence; but, alas, he hides his face from me that I cannot see him, nor come near him.

To his seat i.e. to his throne or judgment-seat, to plead my cause before him, as it here follows, Job 22:4 , not upon terms of strict justice, but upon those terms of grace and mercy upon which God is pleased to deal with his sinful creatures: see before, Job 9:34,35 16:21 17:3 . And this my confidence may be some evidence that I am not such a gross hypocrite as you imagine me to be.

Poole: Job 23:4 - -- I would orderly declare the things which concern and prove the right of my cause; not only debating the controversy between my friends and me, concer...

I would orderly declare the things which concern and prove the right of my cause; not only debating the controversy between my friends and me, concerning my sincerity or hypocrisy before God, as a witness or judge; but also pleading with God as a party, and modestly inquiring whether he doth not deal more rigorously with me than I might reasonably expect, wherein I desire no other judge but himself.

Fill my mouth with arguments to prove my innocency and sincerity towards God, and consequently that am severely used.

Poole: Job 23:5 - -- I long to know what he would say, either to prove me a hypocrite, or to justify his harsh proceedings against me; and if be should discover to me an...

I long to know what he would say, either to prove me a hypocrite, or to justify his harsh proceedings against me; and if be should discover to me any secret and unknown sins, for which he contendeth with me, I should humble myself before him, and accept of the punishment of mine iniquity.

Poole: Job 23:6 - -- Will he oppress me with his sovereign and absolute power, as men do those whom they cannot fairly and justly conquer? He would put strength in me t...

Will he oppress me with his sovereign and absolute power, as men do those whom they cannot fairly and justly conquer?

He would put strength in me the word strength , or power , being fitly supplied out of the former branch of the verse, as is very usual in Scripture. He would not use his power against me, but for me; by enabling; me to plead my cause, and giving sentence according to that clemency and benignity, which according to his gracious covenant he useth towards his children. Or, he would put or set his heart (this very verb of putting or setting being elsewhere used in this defective manner for putting or setting the heart , as Job 7:17 Isa 41:10 , as it is fully expressed, Isa 57:1 Eze 40:4 44:5 ) upon (the preposition beth , in , being sometimes used for al , upon , as Neh 2:12 Isa 21:13 ) me , to wit, to hear me and all my reasons meekly, and to judge favourably, and to help and deliver me, as that and the like phrases commonly signify in Scripture use.

Poole: Job 23:7 - -- There at that throne of grace, as it is called, Heb 4:16 , where God lays aside his majesty and power, and judgeth according to his wonted grace and ...

There at that throne of grace, as it is called, Heb 4:16 , where God lays aside his majesty and power, and judgeth according to his wonted grace and clemency.

The righteous such as I do and dare avow myself to be, to wit, in sincerity, though not in perfection. Might dispute with him ; humbly and modestly propounding the grounds of their confidence, and the evidences of their righteousness. So ; upon such a fair and equal hearing.

From my judge either,

1. From the severe censures of all corrupt and partial judges, such as you my friends are. Or rather,

2. From the damnatory sentence of God; for he is not only pleading before him, but also with him. He would give sentence for me, and against himself. This and some such expressions of Job cannot be excused from reverence towards God, and too great a confidence in himself; for which therefore God sharply reproves him hereafter, and Job abhorreth himself.

Poole: Job 23:8 - -- I go forward i.e. towards the east, which in Scripture is accounted the forepart of the world, as the Hebrew name of it signifies, because of the lig...

I go forward i.e. towards the east, which in Scripture is accounted the forepart of the world, as the Hebrew name of it signifies, because of the light of the sun, which ariseth there, and draweth the eye of men towards it.

He is not there to wit, so as I would have him, as a judge to hear and determine my cause, of which he is here speaking; for otherwise he knew and believed that God was essentially present in all places.

Backward i.e. towards the west; so also the north is called the left hand , and the south the right hand , Job 23:9 , because so they all are to a man who looks towards the east. He names all the several parts of the world, to show his eager desire and restless endeavours to find out God, and to present himself before him.

Poole: Job 23:9 - -- Where he doth work to wit, in a special and peculiar manner, more than in other parts of the world; for so indeed God did work in those parts which w...

Where he doth work to wit, in a special and peculiar manner, more than in other parts of the world; for so indeed God did work in those parts which were northward from Job, because there mankind (among whom God delights to be and to work) were most numerous, and most ingenious to discern God’ s works. There also was the seat of the Assyrian empire, which was eminent in Job’ s time, and afterwards of the other successive empires; in and by all which God did many great and glorious works. But this Hebrew word is by others, and that very properly and fitly, rendered when , or whilst, he worketh , to wit, in an eminent manner. So this is added to aggravate Job’ s unhappiness. We may certainly find any man when and where he is working; but I, saith he, search for God even when and where he is working, and yet cannot find him out.

He hideth himself to wit, from me ; he withdraweth his favour, and will not afford me his presence and audience.

I cannot see him either,

1. I cannot discern his counsels and ways, and the reasons of his severe dealings with me. Or rather,

2. He doth not appear to me as a judge, to examine my cause and arguments, but condemns me without hearing me.

Poole: Job 23:10 - -- But though I cannot see him, yet my comfort is, that he seeth me and my heart, and all my actions. Or, for , as this particle commonly signifies. So...

But though I cannot see him, yet my comfort is, that he seeth me and my heart, and all my actions. Or, for , as this particle commonly signifies. So this verse contains a reason why he so vehemently desired that he might plead his cause with or before God.

He knoweth the way that I take he cannot be deceived nor blinded, either by the artifices of bold accusers or advocates, or by his own misapprehensions or passions, but he exactly knows the way that is with me , i.e. the disposition of my heart, and the whole course or manner of my life.

When he hath tried me if he would examine me thoroughly, which above all things I desire.

I shall come forth as gold which cometh out of the furnace pure from all dross. It would appear upon a fair hearing that I am free, though not from all sin, as he had confessed before, yet from that hypocrisy and those gross enormities wherewith my friends charge me.

Poole: Job 23:11 - -- My foot hath held i.e. made a free and fixed choice, and taken fast hold of them; been firmly and strongly settled, and resolved to continue in them,...

My foot hath held i.e. made a free and fixed choice, and taken fast hold of them; been firmly and strongly settled, and resolved to continue in them, as the word signifies.

His steps either,

1. Actively, the steps or ways in which God himself walks; the paths of holiness, justice, mercy, &c., wherein he walked with or after God , as the phrase is, Gen 5:24 2Ki 23:3 , following his example. Or,

2. Passively, the steps or paths which God hath appointed men to walk in, as Job 21:14 .

His way have I kept and not declined; the same thing with that in the former part of the verse, in different expressions.

PBC: Job 23:3 - -- See Philpot: THE ORDERING OF THE CAUSE BEFORE THE MERCY-SEAT Job 23:3-4

See Philpot: THE ORDERING OF THE CAUSE BEFORE THE MERCY-SEAT Job 23:3-4

PBC: Job 23:4 - -- God’s conversation with Job helped {Job 38:1-7} Job to widen his perspective and to submit his cause to God without qualification.

God’s conversation with Job helped {Job 38:1-7} Job to widen his perspective and to submit his cause to God without qualification.

Haydock: Job 23:2 - -- Bitterness. Instead of comfort, he only meets with insult from his friends. He therefore appeals to God, (Worthington) but with fear. (Calmet) ---...

Bitterness. Instead of comfort, he only meets with insult from his friends. He therefore appeals to God, (Worthington) but with fear. (Calmet) ---

Scourge, is not in Hebrew. (Menochius) ---

But it explains the meaning of "my hand," (Haydock) or the heavy chastisement (St. Gregory) which I endure. (Menochius)

Haydock: Job 23:6 - -- Nor. Protestants, "No, but he would put strength in me." He would enable me to stand my trial. (Haydock) --- He would lay no falsehood to my ch...

Nor. Protestants, "No, but he would put strength in me." He would enable me to stand my trial. (Haydock) ---

He would lay no falsehood to my charge.

Haydock: Job 23:7 - -- Victory. Before such a judge I should hope to be acquitted. Job must have been well convinced of his innocence. For woe to man, if God treat him a...

Victory. Before such a judge I should hope to be acquitted. Job must have been well convinced of his innocence. For woe to man, if God treat him according to the rigour of his justice! (Calmet) ---

Septuagint, "For truth and reproof are with him. But, oh! that he would bring my judgment to an end." (Haydock)

Haydock: Job 23:8 - -- East, or Hebrew, "before....if behind I cannot perceive him." (Calmet) --- Where, then, shall I find this just judge? ver. 3. (Haydock)

East, or Hebrew, "before....if behind I cannot perceive him." (Calmet) ---

Where, then, shall I find this just judge? ver. 3. (Haydock)

Haydock: Job 23:9 - -- Right, southward. --- See. The southern part of the heavens, or the antarctic stars would not be discerned in Idumea, chap. ix. 9. (Calmet) --- ...

Right, southward. ---

See. The southern part of the heavens, or the antarctic stars would not be discerned in Idumea, chap. ix. 9. (Calmet) ---

Job speaks in a human manner, as he was not ignorant of God's immensity. (Menochius)

Haydock: Job 23:10 - -- Fire. They had not a stone, like the Greeks, to try gold. (Calmet)

Fire. They had not a stone, like the Greeks, to try gold. (Calmet)

Gill: Job 23:1 - -- Then Job answered and said. In reply to Eliphaz; for though he does not direct his discourse to him, nor take any notice of his friends; yet, as a pro...

Then Job answered and said. In reply to Eliphaz; for though he does not direct his discourse to him, nor take any notice of his friends; yet, as a proof of his innocence, against his and their accusations and charges, he desires no other than to have his cause laid before God himself, by whom he had no doubt he should be acquitted; and, contrary to their notions, he shows in this chapter, that he, a righteous man, was afflicted by God, according to his unchangeable decrees; and, in the next, that wicked men greatly prosper; so that what he herein says may be considered as a sufficient answer to Eliphaz and his friends; and after which no more is said to him by them, excepting a few words dropped by Bildad.

Gill: Job 23:2 - -- Even today is my complaint bitter,.... Job's afflictions were continued on him long; he was made to possess months of vanity; and, as he had been com...

Even today is my complaint bitter,.... Job's afflictions were continued on him long; he was made to possess months of vanity; and, as he had been complaining ever since they were upon him, he still continued to complain to that day, "even" after all the comforts his friends pretended to administer to him, as Jarchi observes: his complaints were concerning his afflictions, and his friends' ill usage of him under them; not of injustice in God in afflicting him, though he thought he dealt severely with him; but of the greatness of his afflictions, they being intolerable, and his strength unequal to them, and therefore death was more eligible to him than life; and he complained of God's hiding his face from him, and not hearing him, nor showing him wherefore he contended with him, nor admitting an hearing of his cause before him: and this complaint of his was "bitter": the things he complained of were such, bitter afflictions, like the waters of Marah the Israelites could not drink of, Exo 15:23; there was a great deal of wormwood and gall in his affliction and misery; and it was in a bitter way, in the bitterness of his soul, he made his complaint; and, what made his case still worse, he could not utter any complaint, so much as a sigh or a groan, but it was reckoned "provocation", or "stubbornness and rebellion", by his friends; so some render the word x, as Mr. Broughton does, "this day my sighing is holden a rebellion": there is indeed a great deal of rebellion oftentimes in the hearts, words and actions, conduct and behaviour, even of good men under afflictions, as were in the Israelites in the wilderness; and a difficult thing it is to complain without being guilty of it; though complaints may be without it, yet repinings and murmurings are always attended with it:

and my stroke is heavier than my groaning; or "my hand" y, meaning either his own hand, which was heavy, and hung down, his spirits failing, his strength being exhausted, and so his hands weak, feeble, and remiss, that he could not hold them up through his afflictions, and his groanings under them, see Psa 102:5; or the hand of God upon him, his afflicting hand, which had touched him and pressed hard upon him, and lay heavy, and was heavier than his groanings showed; though he groaned much, he did not groan more, nor so much, as his afflictions called for; and therefore it was no wonder that his complaint was bitter, nor should it be reckoned rebellion and provocation; see Job 6:2.

Gill: Job 23:3 - -- O that I knew where I might find him,.... That is, God, who is understood, though not expressed, a relative without an antecedent, as in Psa 87:1; Jar...

O that I knew where I might find him,.... That is, God, who is understood, though not expressed, a relative without an antecedent, as in Psa 87:1; Jarchi supplies, and interprets it, "my Judge", from Job 23:7; and certain it is Job did desire to find God as a judge sitting on his throne, doing right, that he might have justice done to him: indeed he might be under the hidings of God's face, which added to his affliction, and made it the heavier; in which case, the people of God are at a loss to know where he is, and "how" to find him, as Mr. Broughton renders the words here; they know that he is everywhere, and fills heaven and earth with his presence; that their God is in the heavens, his throne is there, yea, the heaven is his throne; that he is in his church, and among his people, where they are gathered together in his name, to wait upon him, and to worship him; and that he is to be found in Christ, as a God gracious and merciful; all which Job knew, but might, as they in such circumstances are, be at a loss how to come at sensible communion with him; for, when he hides his face, who can behold him? yet they cannot content themselves without seeking after him, and making use of all means of finding him, as Job did, Job 23:8; see Son 3:1;

that I might come even to his seat; either his mercy seat, from whence he communes with his people, the throne of his grace, where he sits as the God of grace, dispensing his grace to his people, to help them in time of need; the way to which is Christ, and in which all believers may come to it with boldness, in his name, through his blood, righteousness, and sacrifice; they may come up even to it, in the exercise of faith and hope, though the distance is great, as between heaven and earth, yet by faith they can come into the holiest of all, and by hope enter within the vail; and though the difficulties and discouragements are many, arising from their sins and transgressions: or else his judgment seat, at which no man can appear and stand, without a righteousness, or without a better than his own, by which none can be justified in the sight of God; who, if strict to mark iniquity, the best of men cannot stand before him, at his bar of justice; indeed, in the righteousness of Christ, a believer may come up to the judgment seat of God, and to him as Judge of all, and not be afraid, but stand before him with confidence, since that is sufficient to answer for him, and fully acquit him: but Job here seems to have a peculiar respect to his case, in controversy between him and his friends, and is so fully assured of the justness of his cause, and relying on his innocence, he wishes for nothing more than that he could find God sitting on a throne of justice, before whom his cause might be brought and heard, not doubting in the least but that he should be acquitted; so far was he from hiding himself from God, or pleasing himself with the thoughts that God was in the height of heaven, and knew nothing of him and his conduct, and could not judge through the dark clouds, which were a covering to him, that he could not see him; that he was not afraid to appear before him, and come up even to his seat, if he knew but where and how he could; see Job 22:12.

Gill: Job 23:4 - -- I would order my cause before him,.... Either, as a praying person, direct his prayer to him, and set it in order before him, see Psa 5:3; or else as...

I would order my cause before him,.... Either, as a praying person, direct his prayer to him, and set it in order before him, see Psa 5:3; or else as pleading in his own defence, and in justification of himself; not of his person before God, setting his works of righteousness in order before him, and pleading his justification on the foot of them; for, by these no flesh living can be justified before God; but of his cause, for, as a man may vindicate his cause before men, and clear himself from aspersions cast upon him, as Samuel did, 1Sa 12:5; so he may before God, with respect to the charges he is falsely loaded with, and may appeal to him for justice, and desire he would stir up himself, and awake to his judgment, even to his cause, and plead it against those that strive with him, as David did, Psa 35:1;

and fill my mouth with arguments; either in prayer, as a good man may; not with such as are taken from his goodness and righteousness, but from the person, office, grace, blood, righteousness, and sacrifice of Christ, and from the declarations of God's grace, and the promises of his word; or else as in a court of judicature, bringing forth his strong reasons, and giving proofs of his innocence, such as would be demonstrative, even convincing to all that should hear, and be not only proofs for him, and in his favour, but reproofs also, as the word c signifies, to those that contended with him.

Gill: Job 23:5 - -- I would know the words which he would answer me,.... Being a God hearing and answering prayer, who always hears, and sooner or later answers the peti...

I would know the words which he would answer me,.... Being a God hearing and answering prayer, who always hears, and sooner or later answers the petitions of his people in his own way; and which when he does, they know, take notice, and observe it: or then he should know the reason why the Lord contended with him, and what were his sins and transgressions, which were the cause of his afflictions; things he had desired to know, but as yet had no answer, see Job 10:2;

and understand what he would say unto me; what judgment he would pass upon him, what sentence he would pronounce on him, whether guilty or not, and by which judgment he was content to stand or fall; as for men's judgment, the judgment of his friends, or to be judged by them, he required it not, as he did not understand upon what ground they went, or that it was a good one; but the judgment of God he should pay a deference to, as being always according to truth, and the reason of which, when he should have a hearing before him, and a decisive sentence by him, he should clearly perceive; see 1Co 4:3.

Gill: Job 23:6 - -- Will he plead against me with his great power?.... God will not plead against his people at all, but for them: much less will he plead against them w...

Will he plead against me with his great power?.... God will not plead against his people at all, but for them: much less will he plead against them with his great strength, use all his power to run them down, crush, and oppress them; for he is a great God, and of great power, he is mighty in strength, and there is no contending with him, or answering of him, Job 9:3; nor will he deal with them according to the strict rigour of his justice, nor stir up all his wrath, nor contend for ever with them in such a way; for then the spirits would fail before him, and the souls that he has made; whatever he does with others, making known his power on the vessels of wrath, he will never act after this manner with the vessels of mercy:

no, but he would put strength in me: to pray unto him, and prevail with him to lay hold on him, and not let him go without the blessing, as Jacob did, Hos 12:3; or to stand before him, and plead his own cause with him, in such a strong and powerful manner as to bear down all the accusations and charges brought against him: or "he will set his heart upon me" d; deal mildly and gently, kindly and graciously, and not with his great strength and strict justice; or "will not put sins upon me", as Jarchi, or lay charges to him, however guilty of them, as his friends did, or impute such to him he never committed: God is so far from doing this to his people, that he does not impute their sins to them they have committed, but to his son, much less will he lay upon them more than is right, Job 34:23. Some take the sense of the words to be this, in answer to the above question, "will he plead against me with his great power?" let him do it, "only let him not set upon me" e, in an hostile way, and then I do not decline entering the debate with him; which expresses great boldness and confidence, and even too much, and must be reckoned among the unbecoming expressions Job was afterwards convinced of; but this he utters in his passion, in order the more clearly to show, and the more strongly to assert, his innocence.

Gill: Job 23:7 - -- There the righteous might dispute with him,.... That is, at his seat, either at his mercy seat, where even God allows sinners to come and reason with ...

There the righteous might dispute with him,.... That is, at his seat, either at his mercy seat, where even God allows sinners to come and reason with him, for pardoning grace and mercy, upon the foot of his own declarations and promises, and the blood and sacrifice of his son, Isa 1:18; or at his judgment seat, pleading the righteousness of Christ, which is fully satisfactory to law and justice. Job most probably means himself by the righteous or upright man, being conscious to himself of his sincerity and integrity; and relying on this, he feared not to appear before God as a Judge, and reason his case before him, dispute the matter with him, and in his presence, which was in controversy between him and his friends, whether he was an hypocrite or a sincere good man:

so should I be delivered for ever from my Judge; either from those who judged harsely of him, and were very censorious in the character they gave of him; and from all their condemnation of him, and calumnies and charges they fastened on him; or "from him that judgest me" f, from anyone whatever that should wrongly judge him, friend or foe; or rather from God himself, his Judge, from whom he should depart acquitted; and so Mr. Broughton renders the words, "so should I be quit for ever by my Judge"; for, if God justifies, who shall condemn? such an one need not regard the condemnations of men or devils; being acquitted by God he is for ever instilled, and shall never enter into condemnation; God's acquittance is a security from the damnatory sentence of others.

Gill: Job 23:8 - -- Behold, I go forward, but he is not there,.... Job here returns to what he had said before, Job 23:3; as Jarchi observes, where he expresses his ear...

Behold, I go forward, but he is not there,.... Job here returns to what he had said before, Job 23:3; as Jarchi observes, where he expresses his earnest desire after God, that he might know where he was, and come up to his seat; here he relates the various ways he took to find him, and his fruitless search of him. Cocceius thinks, by these phrases "forward" and "backward", are meant times future and past; and that the sense is, that Job looked into the future times of the Messiah, and the grace promised him, his living Redeemer, that should stand on the earth in the latter day; and that he looked back to the ages before him, and to the first promise made to Adam; but could not understand by either the reason why good men were afflicted; and by the "right" hand and "left", the different dispensations of God to men, granting protection with his right hand, and distributing the blessings of his goodness by it; and with his left hand laying afflictions and evils upon them; and yet, neither from the one nor the other could he learn the mind and will of God concerning men, since love and hatred are not to be known by these things: but rather, with the Jewish commentators in general, we are to understand places by these various expressions; even each of the parts of the world, east, west, north, and south; which Job went through, and surveyed in his mind, to find God in, but to no purpose; for, when a man stands with his face to the rising sun, the east is before him, and, if he goes forward, he goes eastward; and behind him is the west, and, if he goes that way, he goes backward; so the eastern sea is called the former sea, and the western, or Mediterranean sea, the hinder sea, Zec 14:8; and a man, in this position, will have the north on his left hand, and the south on his right; see Gen 13:9; now Job says that he went "forward", that is, eastward; but, says he of God, "he is not there", or "is not" g; meaning not that he was not in being, did not exist; for he most firmly believed the existence of God, or that he was, but, as we rightly supply, he was not there, that is, eastward; and yet the greatest, the most glorious, and most gracious appearances of him were in the east; man was made in the east; the garden of Eden was planted eastward; here God appeared to Adam, both before and after his fall; and it was in the east, Christ, the second Adam, was born; his star appeared in it, and his Gospel was first preached in the eastern parts; in the east Job now lived, and had been the greatest man in it; but now God did not appear to him, as the Vulgate Latin version, not in a kind and gracious manner; nor could he find him at his throne of justice here, as he wished for; he was there, though Job saw him not; for he is everywhere; indeed he is not confined or limited to any place; for, as the heaven of heavens cannot contain him, so much less any part or corner of the earth:

and backward, but I cannot perceive him; or understand where he is, or get intelligence of him, and of the reason of his dispensations, especially concerning himself.

Gill: Job 23:9 - -- On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him,.... The northern part of the world, where his seat is, or the circle of the earth, say...

On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him,.... The northern part of the world, where his seat is, or the circle of the earth, says Bar Tzemach, and who has stretched out the north over the empty place, Job 26:7. Jarchi's note is, when he created it, he did not make it the place of his throne: God works everywhere in a way of providence, but in some places more eminently than in others; the northern part of the world is observed to be more inhabited than the southern, and the people of it to be more active in war and business than elsewhere; and more and greater things are done by God among them as instruments than among any other; and Mr. Caryl observes, that the Gospel has ever more generally and more clearly been preached here than in the southern parts of the world; and perhaps by the northern chambers in Ezekiel's vision, Eze 42:1, were designed the Protestant churches in the northern parts, as it is well known the Protestant doctrine is called the northern heresy: but what Job meant by God's works in the north is not easy to say; but as this refers to some place where God had been used to work either in the way of providence or grace, it was the most likely one to find him in, and yet Job could not behold him, or get any sight of him, either as on a throne of grace or justice:

he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him; or "he covereth the right hand" h, the southern parts of the world; he covers the face of the south with his face, that I cannot see him, so Jarchi; this is said because the south is covered with the waters of the ocean, as Bar Tzemach observes; what we call the South sea: or rather the meaning is, that God covered himself on the right hand, or on the south, as with a garment, as the word signifies; wrapped himself up either in light inaccessible, as with a garment, or with clouds of darkness, that he could not be seen; and if he hides himself, as he often does from the best of men, who can behold him? Job 34:29; see Job 9:11.

Gill: Job 23:10 - -- But he knoweth the way that I take,.... This he seems to say in a way of solace to himself, comforting and contenting himself, that though he could no...

But he knoweth the way that I take,.... This he seems to say in a way of solace to himself, comforting and contenting himself, that though he could not find God, nor knew where he was, or what way he took, nor the reasons of his ways and dispensations with the children of men, and with himself, yet God knew where he was, and what way he took; by which he means either the way he took, being directed to it for his acceptance with God, his justification before him, and eternal salvation; which was his living Redeemer, he looked unto by faith for righteousness and eternal life: or rather the way and manner of life he took to, the course of his conversation, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord, in the paths of piety and truth, of righteousness and holiness; and this God knew not barely by his omniscience, as he knows all the ways of men, good and bad; his eyes are upon them, lie compasses them, and is thoroughly acquainted with them; but by way of approbation, he approved of it, and was well pleased with it, it being so agreeable to his revealed will, so pure and holy; thus the Lord knows the way of the righteous, Psa 1:6;

when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold; as pure as gold, as free from dross as that, appear quite innocent of the charges brought against him, and shine in his integrity. He was as valuable and precious as gold, as all God's people are in his esteem, however reckoned of by others; they are precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold; not that they have any intrinsic, worth in themselves, they are in no wise the better than others by nature; but through the grace of God bestowed on them, which is as gold tried in the fire; and through the righteousness of Christ imputed to them, which is gold of Ophir, and clothing of wrought gold; and, on account of both, they are like a mass of gold, and are the chosen of God, and precious: this gold he tries, the Lord trieth the righteous; and which he does by afflictive providences; he puts them into the furnace of affliction, which is the fiery trial to try them; and hereby their graces are tried, their faith, hope, love, patience, &c. their principles and doctrines they embrace, whether they are gold, silver, and precious stones, or whether wood, hay, and stubble; the fire tries every man's work, of what sort it is, and whether they will abide by them and their profession also, whether they will adhere to it; and by this means he purges away their dross and tin, and they come out of the furnace as pure gold in great lustre and brightness, as those in Rev 7:13; now Job was in this furnace and trying; and he was confident that, as he should come out of it, he should appear to great advantage, pure and spotless; though it may be he may have respect to his trial at the bar of justice, where he desired to be tried, and be brought under the strictest examination; and doubted not but he should be acquitted, and shine as bright as gold; nay, these words may be given as a reason why God would not be found by him as his Judge to try his cause, because he knew his uprightness and integrity, and that he must go from him acquitted and discharged; and therefore, for reasons unknown to him, declined the judging of him; to this purpose Jarchi interprets the words, which may be rendered, "for he knoweth the way that I take" a; and therefore will not be seen by me, nor appear to judge me: "he hath tried me"; again and again, and has seen the integrity of my heart, as Sephorno interprets it, and well knows my innocence; see Psa 17:3; and if he would try me again, "I shall come forth as gold"; quite clear of all charges and imputations; I am able to stand the strictest scrutiny: this he said as conscious of his uprightness, and of his strict regard to the ways and word of God, as follows; but this was a bold saying, and an unbecoming expression of his to God; and of which he afterwards was ashamed and repented, when God appeared and spoke to him out of the whirlwind.

Gill: Job 23:11 - -- My foot hath held his steps,.... Trod in the steps he has walked in; he followed God closely, imitated him in acts of holiness and righteousness, of m...

My foot hath held his steps,.... Trod in the steps he has walked in; he followed God closely, imitated him in acts of holiness and righteousness, of mercy, kindness, and beneficence; and he continued therein; as he set his foot in the steps of God, which were to him for an example, he persisted therein; as he followed on to know him, so to imitate him, and walk worthy of him:

his way have I kept; the way he prescribed him, and directed him to walk in, the way of his commandments, which he observed constantly, and kept; though not perfectly, yet with great delight and pleasure, and so as not to be chargeable with any gross neglect of them, but in some sense to walk in all of them blameless, as not to be culpable before men:

and not declined: from the way of God, did not turn aside from it to the right or left, or go into crooked paths with wicked men, or wickedly depart from his God, his ways and worship, as David says, Psa 18:21.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Job 23:1 Job answers Eliphaz, but not until he introduces new ideas for his own case with God. His speech unfolds in three parts: Job’s longing to meet G...

NET Notes: Job 23:2 The preposition can take this meaning; it could be also translated simply “upon.” R. Gordis (Job, 260) reads the preposition “more t...

NET Notes: Job 23:3 Or “his place of judgment.” The word is from כּוּן (kun, “to prepare; to arrange”) in the Polel ...

NET Notes: Job 23:4 The word מִשְׁפָּט (mishpat) is normally “judgment; decision.” But in these contexts...

NET Notes: Job 23:5 Heb “the words he would answer me.”

NET Notes: Job 23:6 The verbal clause יָשִׂם בִּי (yasim bi) has been translated “he would pay [attentio...

NET Notes: Job 23:7 The form of the verb is the Niphal נוֹכָח (nokkakh, “argue, present a case”). E. Dhorme (Job, 346) is ...

NET Notes: Job 23:9 The MT has “he turns,” but the Syriac and Vulgate have “I turn.”

NET Notes: Job 23:10 There is a perfect verb followed by an imperfect in this clause with the protasis and apodosis relationship (see GKC 493 §159.b).

NET Notes: Job 23:11 The last clause, “and I have not turned aside,” functions adverbially in the sentence. The form אָט (’at) is a pau...

Geneva Bible: Job 23:2 Even to day [is] my complaint ( a ) bitter: my stroke is heavier than my groaning. ( a ) He shows the just cause of his complaining and concerning th...

Geneva Bible: Job 23:6 Will he ( b ) plead against me with [his] great power? No; but he would ( c ) put [strength] in me. ( b ) Using his absolute power and saying because...

Geneva Bible: Job 23:7 ( d ) There the righteous might dispute with him; so should I be delivered for ever from my judge. ( d ) When he of his mercy has given strength to m...

Geneva Bible: Job 23:8 ( e ) Behold, I go forward, but he [is] not [there]; and backward, but I cannot perceive him: ( e ) Meaning, that if he considers God's justice, he i...

Geneva Bible: Job 23:10 But he knoweth the ( f ) way that I take: [when] he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold. ( f ) God has this preeminence about me, that he knows...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Job 23:1-17 - --1 Job longs to appear before God,6 in confidence of his mercy.8 God, who is invisible, observes our ways.11 Job's innocency.13 God's decree is immutab...

MHCC: Job 23:1-7 - --Job appeals from his friends to the just judgement of God. He wants to have his cause tried quickly. Blessed be God, we may know where to find him. He...

MHCC: Job 23:8-12 - --Job knew that the Lord was every where present; but his mind was in such confusion, that he could get no fixed view of God's merciful presence, so as ...

Matthew Henry: Job 23:1-7 - -- Job is confident that he has wrong done him by his friends, and therefore, ill as he is, he will not give up the cause, nor let them have the last w...

Matthew Henry: Job 23:8-12 - -- Here, I. Job complains that he cannot understand the meaning of God's providences concerning him, but is quite at a loss about them (Job 23:8, Job 2...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 23:1-5 - -- 1 Then began Job, and said: 2 Even to-day my complaint still biddeth defiance, My hand lieth heavy upon my groaning. 3 Oh that I knew where I mig...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 23:6-9 - -- 6 Will He contend with me with great power? No, indeed; He will only regard me! 7 Then the upright would be disputing with Him, And I should for ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 23:10-13 - -- 10 For He knoweth the way that is with me: If He should prove me, I should come forth as gold. 11 My foot held firm to His steps; His way I kept,...

Constable: Job 22:1--27:23 - --D. The Third cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 22-27 In round one of the debate J...

Constable: Job 23:1--24:25 - --2. Job's third reply to Eliphaz chs. 23-24 Job ignored Eliphaz's groundless charges of sin tempo...

Constable: Job 23:1-7 - --Job's longing 23:1-7 Job admitted that he had rebelled against God to the extent that he...

Constable: Job 23:8-12 - --Job's innocence 23:8-12 Wherever Job looked, he could not find God. Two paraphrases of v...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Job (Book Introduction) JOB A REAL PERSON.--It has been supposed by some that the book of Job is an allegory, not a real narrative, on account of the artificial character of ...

JFB: Job (Outline) THE HOLINESS OF JOB, HIS WEALTH, &c. (Job 1:1-5) SATAN, APPEARING BEFORE GOD, FALSELY ACCUSES JOB. (Job 1:6-12) SATAN FURTHER TEMPTS JOB. (Job 2:1-8)...

TSK: Job (Book Introduction) A large aquatic animal, perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, the exact meaning is unknown. Some think this to be a crocodile but from the desc...

TSK: Job 23 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Job 23:1, Job longs to appear before God, Job 23:6, in confidence of his mercy; Job 23:8, God, who is invisible, observes our ways; Job 2...

Poole: Job 23 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 23 Job’ s reply: his desire to plead with God, Job 23:1-5 ; who should not confound, but strengthen him, Job 23:6,7 . He cannot behol...

MHCC: Job (Book Introduction) This book is so called from Job, whose prosperity, afflictions, and restoration, are here recorded. He lived soon after Abraham, or perhaps before tha...

MHCC: Job 23 (Chapter Introduction) (Job 23:1-7) Job complains that God has withdrawn. (Job 23:8-12) He asserts his own integrity. (Job 23:13-17) The Divine terrors.

Matthew Henry: Job (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Job This book of Job stands by itself, is not connected with any other, and is therefore to...

Matthew Henry: Job 23 (Chapter Introduction) This chapter begins Job's reply to Eliphaz. In this reply he takes no notice of his friends, either because he saw it was to no purpose or because ...

Constable: Job (Book Introduction) Introduction Title This book, like many others in the Old Testament, got its name from...

Constable: Job (Outline) Outline I. Prologue chs. 1-2 A. Job's character 1:1-5 B. Job's calamitie...

Constable: Job Job Bibliography Andersen, Francis I. Job. Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries series. Leicester, Eng. and Downe...

Haydock: Job (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF JOB. INTRODUCTION. This Book takes its name from the holy man, of whom it treats; who, according to the more probable opinion, was ...

Gill: Job (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB This book, in the Hebrew copies, generally goes by this name, from Job, who is however the subject, if not the writer of it. In...

Gill: Job 23 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB 23 This and the following chapter contain Job's reply to the last oration of Eliphaz; in this he first declares his present sor...

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